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    Yo dawg, we heard you needed insulin so we put insulin in your insulin.

    luls great vid brogan; it's annoying as hell how much this myth has stuck around.
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    Yo dawg, we heard you needed insulin so we put insulin in your insulin.

    luls great vid brogan; it's annoying as hell how much this myth has stuck around.
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    I think this goes with don't listen to the mags or ifbb pros who needs carbs fast pwo because they are injecting insulin lol. Natural non diabetics don't have a window lol
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    I think this goes with don't listen to the mags or ifbb pros who needs carbs fast pwo because they are injecting insulin lol. Natural non diabetics don't have a window lol
    This morning on the radio I heard this... "we all know that teens try to grow up too fast...well a recent study shows that teens are turning to steroids...35% of teens have admitted to using protein powders and 6% of teens are using steroids according to latest findings.."

    LOL oh boy...I couldn't believe how they lumped those two together!
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    Originally Posted by triplewhammy View Post
    This morning on the radio I heard this... "we all know that teens try to grow up too fast...well a recent study shows that teens are turning to steroids...35% of teens have admitted to using protein powders and 6% of teens are using steroids according to latest findings.."

    LOL oh boy...I couldn't believe how they lumped those two together!
    Haha, before you know it they will be drug testing for whey.
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    Enjoyed the video, good stuff Bob.
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    Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post
    I think this goes with don't listen to the mags or ifbb pros who needs carbs fast pwo because they are injecting insulin lol. Natural non diabetics don't have a window lol
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    Does your back have any trouble recovering from the pullups everyday or have you just adapted to the volume? Also, are you still IFing?
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    I was under the impression that almond milk didn't work for making jello pudding mix...
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    Any milk works. Almond is thinner than most other (Skim, 1% etc). Plus it would be a hell of a lot chepaer making sludge with a bit of yogurt compared to 2 cups of almond milk + 1 packet of SF/FF mix everytime
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    I'm very aware it works...I make sludge everyday and use pudding jello. Works great
    Not to rehash this, but got to give credit where its due. I tried it with UABV today and indeed it does work. Ended up using half as much almond milk (which I found as a suggestion via google) and its legit. Mixed up some french vanilla, added some cream cheese and cool whip, and made a pumpkin pie frosting. Reps to you both.
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    Originally Posted by Frankdaddy View Post
    I think this goes with don't listen to the mags or ifbb pros who needs carbs fast pwo because they are injecting insulin lol. Natural non diabetics don't have a window lol
    Exactly. Its sad how these myths grow because of the subculture dogma propogated by a lot of these "pros".
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    Loving these workouts Bob! Keep it up mate.
    By the looks of things, you could add another 17lbs and still be damn lean!
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    Great video. Great workouts. And epic eats. All around good stuff Bob.
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    Exactly. Its sad how these myths grow because of the subculture dogma propogated by a lot of these "pros".
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    Does your back have any trouble recovering from the pullups everyday or have you just adapted to the volume? Also, are you still IFing?
    Nope, if i did i would not continue to do them (listen to your body). This is also what my trainer recommended for me due to my back lagging.
    I IF for the most part, but i dont stress a certain window, if its 9 hours, or 7 hours i dont really care. I just get my kcals in.
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    How long did you say TSG will have you running this leg routine? Also, I hope you took measurements of your legs prior to starting TSG's program lol
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    bob you train fasted or no?

    I never really considered IF a 9 hour eating window. That seems more like a typical day for most people I would say. (Bfast at 8am and dinner at 5 or 6pm).

    Anyways, IF seems like it would work better for cutting. I get really bloated on 1K plus meals. Trying to Jam 3.3K of food in 2 or 3 meals is tough, and makes me feel bloated and lazy.
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    Originally Posted by ShadowWolfe View Post
    bob you train fasted or no?

    I never really considered IF a 9 hour eating window. That seems more like a typical day for most people I would say. (Bfast at 8am and dinner at 5 or 6pm).

    Anyways, IF seems like it would work better for cutting. I get really bloated on 1K plus meals. Trying to Jam 3.3K of food in 2 or 3 meals is tough, and makes me feel bloated and lazy.
    THis is why Bob does not suggest a plan to somebody when they ask him what he does because he has adapted to eating more cals during one meal. You just dont wake up one morning eating 4000 cals and do so, yes it would be rough unless you adapt to it.
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    THis is why Bob does not suggest a plan to somebody when they ask him what he does because he has adapted to eating more cals during one meal. You just dont wake up one morning eating 4000 cals and do so, yes it would be rough unless you adapt to it.
    ^^ Bingo! The hunger hormone will adapt to any eating pattern you give it and Martin address's that right off his leangains site.
    most people eat in an 8 hour period and dont even realize it (most people that work regular 9-5 jobs) and wait till their lunch to eat, come home eat dinner, and then a snack before bed. Does not seem like they knew what IF is, but they still do it..

    It may suit others for cutting, but it does not matter its a "lifestyle" diet and used by those who find it to suit their lifestyle and how they enjoy eating.

    300-400 calorie meals while cutting dont cut it for me. I get hungrier, my performance is weaker, and i am craving and thinking about food constantly, when i dropped my meal frequency from 5-6x a day over 3 years ago to less meals, i found greater energy, better focus, and better gym performance.

    Find what WORKS FOR YOU, dont do what others do, try different things and see what works. Everyone is different and "The Body is not a textbook" thats why i always say "Personal Preference" if you can eat a 1,000 calorie meal and get bloated, i could suggest to you a few 1000 calorie meals and you would not even be phased by hunger and would want more.

    Articles about hunger hormone and getting hungry:
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    http://www.leangains.com/2009/04/questions-answers.html
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    Cool log brah. Just a question that I have to ask out of curiosity. There is no negative undertone to it. But why do you not have visible abs? Some sort of previous injury?
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    Cool log brah. Just a question that I have to ask out of curiosity. There is no negative undertone to it. But why do you not have visible abs? Some sort of previous injury?
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    ^^ Bingo! The hunger hormone will adapt to any eating pattern you give it and Martin address's that right off his leangains site.
    most people eat in an 8 hour period and dont even realize it (most people that work regular 9-5 jobs) and wait till their lunch to eat, come home eat dinner, and then a snack before bed. Does not seem like they knew what IF is, but they still do it..

    It may suit others for cutting, but it does not matter its a "lifestyle" diet and used by those who find it to suit their lifestyle and how they enjoy eating.

    300-400 calorie meals while cutting dont cut it for me. I get hungrier, my performance is weaker, and i am craving and thinking about food constantly, when i dropped my meal frequency from 5-6x a day over 3 years ago to less meals, i found greater energy, better focus, and better gym performance.

    Find what WORKS FOR YOU, dont do what others do, try different things and see what works. Everyone is different and "The Body is not a textbook" thats why i always say "Personal Preference" if you can eat a 1,000 calorie meal and get bloated, i could suggest to you a few 1000 calorie meals and you would not even be phased by hunger and would want more.

    Articles about hunger hormone and getting hungry:
    http://www.leangains.com/2012/06/why...me-hungry.html
    http://www.leangains.com/2009/04/questions-answers.html
    http://www.leangains.com/2009/11/que...nswers_23.html
    http://www.leangains.com/2009/07/mea...ass-gains.html (meal Frequency and mass gain)
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    THis is why Bob does not suggest a plan to somebody when they ask him what he does because he has adapted to eating more cals during one meal. You just dont wake up one morning eating 4000 cals and do so, yes it would be rough unless you adapt to it.
    Im not trying to follow what he does, I was curious if he did these things. I have my own routine and regimine I follow, which is why I said I dont like eating large meals. Ive been eating 1K + meals for over a year now, I never adjusted to them, and always feel the same when Im done. I dont know about this "hunger hormone", but I find my appetite is roughly the same. Its just how much I try to consume that changes, my appetite and response to how much I eat stays the same.

    I only ask what he does because I like to see what others do to get success so that I could try them and see if they work for me or not. For me I like eating 3 meals a day, thats it. I dont have time in the day to eat more than that (job restrictions and travelling to and from work restrictions).

    edit: also some of those links I dont find apply at all to me. Breakfast never makes me hungry, I could eat breakfast and go most of the day without eating. Similarly I could NOT eat breakfast and go most of the day without being hungry. I get hungry late afternoon and thats about it. I actually find breakfast makes me feel sick, its my least favourite meal, and I struggle to eat the calories in the morning.
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    Everybody is different -- as what Bob has suggested by failing to suggest a one-size fits all, and your latter edit is merely going to solidify this point.

    Also, Martin's breakfast article is mostly conjecture if I remember correctly, surrounding cortisol peaking.
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    Originally Posted by ShadowWolfe View Post
    Im not trying to follow what he does, I was curious if he did these things. I have my own routine and regimine I follow, which is why I said I dont like eating large meals. Ive been eating 1K + meals for over a year now, I never adjusted to them, and always feel the same when Im done. I dont know about this "hunger hormone", but I find my appetite is roughly the same. Its just how much I try to consume that changes, my appetite and response to how much I eat stays the same.

    I only ask what he does because I like to see what others do to get success so that I could try them and see if they work for me or not. For me I like eating 3 meals a day, thats it. I dont have time in the day to eat more than that (job restrictions and travelling to and from work restrictions).

    edit: also some of those links I dont find apply at all to me. Breakfast never makes me hungry, I could eat breakfast and go most of the day without eating. Similarly I could NOT eat breakfast and go most of the day without being hungry. I get hungry late afternoon and thats about it. I actually find breakfast makes me feel sick, its my least favourite meal, and I struggle to eat the calories in the morning.
    "hunger hormone" is a vague term. Im assuming you guys were referring to Ghrelin, which is a peptide hormone secreted in the gut that alters certain neuropeptides in the hypothalamus, Ghrelin is an orexigenic hormone, leptin antagonizes it and makes you feel full (i.e. leptin is an anorexigenic hormone). There is a lot of research looking into ghrelin secretion patterns and how they are correlated to feeding, but I will say that from anecdotal experience the body can adapt to most any eating behavior if given the time to adapt.

    I used to eat 6-7 small meals a day and was constantly hungry in between meals. Ive now been following IF for around 2 years and usually eat 2 huge meals later in the day; I am rarely hungry during the fasting period because my body has adapted to the mechanism of feeding. I would surmise you could do the same if you really tried. Trust me, when I first started IF I thought there was no way I'd get used to eating all my macros in two meals later in the day but now I couldn't see how I would ever eat as frequently as I was before (that doesnt mean I can't do that, it just means I would need to re-adapt)
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    Originally Posted by The Big Sleep View Post
    (that doesnt mean I can't do that, it just means I would need to re-adapt)
    yup
    I believe any one can adapt to any feeding schedule given the proper amount of time to adapt/.
    Maybe if you are used to 6-7 meals a day spaced over 16 hours for 10 years it would take longer to adjust to 2 meals in 3-4 hours than someone eating 4 meals over 10 hours for 2 years, but eventually you would adapt to it.
    You could do the same with sleep. Ex. Nurses or other professions taht work the night shift. They dont feel tried and fall asleep at the same time people who work the 9-5 shift do.When I was in grad school I would sleep from 5am to 11 or noon every day. Now I am a member of the work force and often get up at 7am or earlier and go to bed hours earlier than just 6 months ago. There is no way I could make it to 5am right now.Given the hours I was awake I also ate at different times and worked out at different times. Adaptation allows for any sort of living cycle.


    From what I ahve seen those with eating problems operate at the extremes.
    THey feel as though they MUSt eat 6-8 meals in order to be healthy/keep the metaboislm firing...or they IF down to 1 meal a day and develop a binge eating behavior and end up getting that "never can be full" feeling
    Or in terms of food selection, they are far too restritive and end up craving things they eliminate, or they think they are following IIFYM mby eating whatever the heck junk they want as long as they hit their protein need and end up craving the sweets they are overeating.

    So once again in comes back to the time-tested result: Moderation and balance
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    yup
    I believe any one can adapt to any feeding schedule given the proper amount of time to adapt/.
    Maybe if you are used to 6-7 meals a day spaced over 16 hours for 10 years it would take longer to adjust to 2 meals in 3-4 hours than someone eating 4 meals over 10 hours for 2 years, but eventually you would adapt to it.
    You could do the same with sleep. Ex. Nurses or other professions taht work the night shift. They dont feel tried and fall asleep at the same time people who work the 9-5 shift do.When I was in grad school I would sleep from 5am to 11 or noon every day. Now I am a member of the work force and often get up at 7am or earlier and go to bed hours earlier than just 6 months ago. There is no way I could make it to 5am right now.Given the hours I was awake I also ate at different times and worked out at different times. Adaptation allows for any sort of living cycle.


    From what I ahve seen those with eating problems operate at the extremes.
    THey feel as though they MUSt eat 6-8 meals in order to be healthy/keep the metaboislm firing...or they IF down to 1 meal a day and develop a binge eating behavior and end up getting that "never can be full" feeling
    Or in terms of food selection, they are far too restritive and end up craving things they eliminate, or they think they are following IIFYM mby eating whatever the heck junk they want as long as they hit their protein need and end up craving the sweets they are overeating.

    So once again in comes back to the time-tested result: Moderation and balance
    Very true indeed, I myself i am struggling with the feeling full effect from that 6 meals a day thing and to be brutally honest nothing fills me out now. I am very grateful for being able to control my mind, eliminating all mind games. I am pretty sure if i had no mind control, i would blow up in no time!!

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    Originally Posted by ShadowWolfe View Post
    I have my own routine and regimine I follow, which is why I said I dont like eating large meals. Ive been eating 1K + meals for over a year now, I never adjusted to them, and always feel the same when Im done.

    You even state you hate large meals, and you dont feel good after them, so in a sense your doing something you dont enjoy and which makes you uncomfortable, so why do you do it regardless if your job makes you travel. eat less filling foods = Success

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    Everybody is different -- as what Bob has suggested by failing to suggest a one-size fits all, and your latter edit is merely going to solidify this point.
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    Originally Posted by The Big Sleep View Post
    "hunger hormone" is a vague term. Im assuming you guys were referring to Ghrelin, , but I will say that from anecdotal experience the body can adapt to most any eating behavior if given the time to adapt.
    This too.

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    loving this journal.. you are smart about your approach to everything. reversed amazingly.. and I am digging the training style.

    I expect you will have huge improvements from now until the next time you compete.

    I think the ab issue will solve itself in time as you gain more size, and get even leaner next time. don't even let it phase you.
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    loving this journal.. you are smart about your approach to everything. reversed amazingly.. and I am digging the training style.

    I expect you will have huge improvements from now until the next time you compete.

    I think the ab issue will solve itself in time as you gain more size, and get even leaner next time. don't even let it phase you.
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    Your OHP 1rm is ~180? Crazy stuff! Sickening strength to bw ratio there
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    Your OHP 1rm is ~180? Crazy stuff! Sickening strength to bw ratio there
    x2 man!!!!! sick stuff!!!
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