RANT: The Clone Wars

[GeneralSerpant]

Hypothesis: NBC Universal has, in the recent past, knowingly and intentionally used race to sway people's perception and opinion of an incident.

You talking about prime-time programming?

[kvk1]

Hypothesis: NBC Universal has, in the recent past, knowingly and intentionally used race to sway people's perception and opinion of an incident.

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS POST:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post955317023

Here we go. A little late, but the chickens are coming home to roost.

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news...americans?lite

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/05/when...ore_injustice/

Time to weed out the spineless ideologues on the left.

Put up or shut up.

Eh?

[Farley1324]

The dots.

First, a question.

Libs normally be squawkin over dem dere targeted assassinations of U.S. citizens.

But they still gon' squawk when it's their boy B-Rack orderin' dem dere assassinations?

Then, an answer/response.

I'd say it depends on the race/ethnicity of the person(s) targeted combined with how the media spins it/what the media tells them they should think.

Followed by: A relevant example supporting the above answer/response.

Example:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/flo...an-nbc-lawsuit

Media edits 911 call to frame the "white hispanic" as racist, which plays a significant role in the general population's perception and opinion of the incident. Reverse the races and nobody would have ever heard of either of these guys outside of south Florida.

Race is a big thing for the media, and the sheep.

You seem to have taken offense to the above chain of events.

Would you like to discuss why that is?

[ossizen]

I'm confused.

Ich weiss nicht.

[kvk1]

Wha....what?

So this wouldn't be news if we were droning rich white blondes outside of Orange County?

It's only in the news cycle because "brown people" are getting blown to smithereens?

Edit: This is so outside the relevance/parameters of the current national discussion on the issue I don't even know where to begin. Farley you need to be hired by a PR firm. You can spin a nuclear fallout into a discussion about Teletubbies.

[mjw8204]

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

[ossizen]

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS POST:



Eh?

NBC's selective editing of the infamous 911 call a few months ago.

Not related to race, but its piss poor editing of that Sandy Hoek father who MSNBC claimed was heckled regarding firearm control (when in fact, he asked a direct question to the audience and someone respectively responded).

[GeneralSerpant]

WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS POST:



Eh?

I'm confused as to how you linked to that specific post.

[Farley1324]

Wha....what?

So this wouldn't be news if we were droning rich white blondes outside of Orange County?

It's only in the news cycle because "brown people" are getting blown to smithereens?

Edit: This is so outside the relevance/parameters of the current national discussion on the issue I don't even know where to begin. Farley you need to be hired by a PR firm. You can spin a nuclear fallout into a discussion about Teletubbies.

More avoidance.

Now I feel safe saying: Not that there's anything new there.

If you are completely unwilling to actually discuss something, just don't post about it, okay?

[ossizen]

Wha....what?

So this wouldn't be news if we were droning rich white blondes outside of Orange County?

It's only in the news cycle because "brown people" are getting blown to smithereens?

Same reason why the skyrocketing murder rate in Chicago isn't being covered by the MSM.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...-Chicago-Fault

How's that for spin! Blaming the surrounding areas for its murder rate.

[PowderMonkey]

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Wait, aren't we still talking about creamer?

[Farley1324]

Same reason why the skyrocketing murder rate in Chicago isn't being covered by the MSM.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...-Chicago-Fault

How's that for spin! Blaming the surrounding areas for its murder rate.

Yup. Chicago's violent crime is Indiana's fault. New Jersey's violent crime is Pennsylvania's fault. Maryland's violent crime is also Pennsylvania's fault, apparently. And New Hampshire's.

It's never their fault.

[kvk1]

More avoidance.

Now I feel safe saying: Not that there's anything new there.

If you are completely unwilling to actually discuss something, just don't post about it, okay?

I didn't avoid anything. You're being disingenuously evasive in your attempt to pedal back from your comments about race/media in response to a statement about drones. Freaking drones.

I ask you again: what is the connection/what is your implication with the Obama/drone story and "the media" and it's alleged racial basis/manipulation.

[Farley1324]

I didn't avoid anything. You're being disingenuously evasive in your attempt to pedal back from your comments about race/media in response to a statement about drones. Freaking drones.

I ask you again: what is the connection/what is your implication with the Obama/drone story and "the media" and it's alleged racial basis/manipulation.

The dots.

First, a question.

Libs normally be squawkin over dem dere targeted assassinations of U.S. citizens.

But they still gon' squawk when it's their boy B-Rack orderin' dem dere assassinations?

Then, an answer/response.

I'd say it depends on the race/ethnicity of the person(s) targeted combined with how the media spins it/what the media tells them they should think.

Followed by: A relevant example supporting the above answer/response.

Example:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/us/flo...an-nbc-lawsuit

Media edits 911 call to frame the "white hispanic" as racist, which plays a significant role in the general population's perception and opinion of the incident. Reverse the races and nobody would have ever heard of either of these guys outside of south Florida.

Race is a big thing for the media, and the sheep.

Would you like to disagree with something I have said?

Would you like to introduce your own topic of discussion? Maybe present your own hypothesis, perhaps even with an example, such as I used?

[kvk1]

Same reason why the skyrocketing murder rate in Chicago isn't being covered by the MSM.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...go+murder+rate

Gee golly. You're right. Not being covered at all.

[ossizen]

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...go+murder+rate

Gee golly. You're right. Not being covered at all.

I'm referring to the NATIONAL media, not local media in that metro.

[kvk1]

The dots.

First, a question.



Then, an answer/response.



Followed by: A relevant example supporting the above answer/response.




Would you like to disagree with something I have said?

Would you like to introduce your own topic of discussion? Maybe present your own hypothesis, perhaps even with an example, such as I used?

Careful, don't pedal so hard. You might fall into a ditch you can't get out from.

[VoxExMachina]

I thought Kvk was posting something about Obamalama killin' with Drones. Gotta say I also don't see how this turns into a discussion about race or the media or whatever.

[Ctrainer]

Is this a gun debate disguised as a race debate?

I have had a few vinos and am just trying to follow along.

Taco chips are delicious.

[Farley1324]

Careful, don't pedal so hard. You might fall into a ditch you can't get out from.

More refusal to discuss, yet more than happy to take potshots from the sideline.

Fantastic.



Although I gotta say, I'm disappointed even in this. It's a pretty tough sell to claim that me posting the exact same thing as before is back peddling.

[Farley1324]

Is this a gun debate disguised as a race debate?

I have had a few vinos and am just trying to follow along.

Taco chips are delicious.

It's a "is NBC Universal racially bias" debate. kvk seems to say no, but won't say no, because he can't risk being anywhere but the far sideline

Edit: *It started as "the media", but kvk objected because the media is not a singular thing so that's not much of a topic, it needed broken down into smaller segments

[therorschach]

Winston Churchill once said, "If you're going through hell, keep going." This is certainly a deep and thought provoking platitude. I will use whatever extra time I have to research and discover why Churchill was an incredible *******.

[VoxExMachina]

Is this a gun debate disguised as a race debate?

I have had a few vinos and am just trying to follow along.

Taco chips are delicious.

I dunno.

I do know the media has long since stopped being "fair and balanced" (if it ever was).

This is not relevant to your query.

Hope this helps.

[Farley1324]

Is this a gun debate disguised as a race debate?

I have had a few vinos and am just trying to follow along.

Taco chips are delicious.

At this point it's a "anything kvk wants to discuss" debate as far as I'm concerned

[theshoupguy]

Taco chips are delicious.

Yeah, Doritos are pretty tasty. Certain flavors, anyway.

[kvk1]

I thought Kvk was posting something about Obamalama killin' with Drones. Gotta say I also don't see how this turns into a discussion about race or the media or whatever.

Imagine that.

More refusal to discuss, yet more than happy to take potshots from the sideline.

Fantastic.

Although I gotta say, I'm disappointed even in this. It's a pretty tough sell to claim that me posting the exactly same thing as before is back peddling.

Pro-tip:

You will never sway the opinion of anybody worth a damn taking this ridiculous "points system" approach to arguing.

It's fun in forums. It looks good to people who are already on your side from another issue, or already opposed to me because of another issue.

But in the end it accomplishes nothing but a proxy circle-jerk. Not to mention it speaks to your character: you can attack a person and not their argument, or put words in their mouth for so often before an opinion forms of you "behind the scenes."

It's a "is NBC Universal racially bias" debate. kvk seems to say no, but won't say no, because he can't risk being anywhere but the far sideline

At this point it's a "anything kvk wants to discuss" debate as far as I'm concerned

Unbelievable. I post about drones. MJW replies about drones. You reply with Zimmerman/race to MJW. Yet I'm the dweeb.

[GeneralSerpant]

I get what either of you are bringing up for discussion, but I don't know what you're arguing about.

There seems to be an equilateral continuum between Drones, Race, and yours' argument.

[Farley1324]

Yeah, Doritos are pretty tasty. Certain flavors, anyway.

Cool Ranch all the way.

Fuk that nacho cheese sh.it. Haven't liked them since Middle School.

Pepsi either.

[Ctrainer]

Can a news service have an agenda? Isn't that usually why someone has a bias? To drive their agenda.

[VoxExMachina]

I think kavak was saying that Obama is an evil dictator.

Farley disagrees.