1ad: The quick and dirty guide to using it

[Krzna]

I have compiled a few commonly asked questions new users ask before getting into 1AD.Please note that this thread is by no means makes you completely knowledgeable. It is pretty similar to my m1t thread, just varying the cycles and pct.

I am 18, I have had 4 years plus lifting experience, I feel I’ve reached a plateau and want to use 1ad?
Well I’ve heard this question over and over and would to prevent all those below 21 that using 1ad, or any other ph under the age of 21 is basically inhibiting your body’s natural production of testosterone. Between the ages of 18 thorough 21, males experience the highest test production. If you feel you want to supplement, I would strongly suggest you look for Test boosters. Please note that this has nothing to do with your lack of so called maturity or the feeling that youngsters are careless. Its scientific and numerous studies have been performed in this regard.

This is my first ph cycle ………..
1ad is a great place to start with prohormones.

I have just got a bottle of 1ad , how do I use it.

Week 1: 300mg 1AD,300mg 4AD (starts today, 1/30/05)
Week 2: 300mg 1AD,600mg 4AD
Week 3: 300mg 1AD,600mg 4AD
Week 4: 600mg 1AD,900mg 4AD
Week 5: 600mg 1AD,900mg 4AD
Week 6: 600mg 1AD,900mg 4AD


Does 1AD require a PCT?
The presence of 1ad in the body inhibits the production of the body’s natural reserve testosterone. Once you jump off the cycle you will need to restart your body’s natural test production. A Post Cycle Therapy is therefore required.

Give me a sample 1ad PCT.

PCT
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Week 7: 600mg 6-oxo, 40mg Nolva, 1g Milk Thistle, 5g Tribullus
Week 8: 600mg 6-oxo, 20mg Nolva, 1g Milk Thistle, 4g Tribullus
Week 9: 300mg 6-oxo, 10mg Nolva, 1g Milk Thistle, 4g Tribullus
Week 10: 300mg 6-oxo, 10mg Nolva, 1g Milk Thistle, 3g Tribullus

Is 6oxo good enough by itself for a 1AD PCT, most people say it is enough
Yes, 6oxo standalone is strong enough to restart the test production in your body. The suppressive action of 1ad is not as extreme as 1ad. Bur 6oxo is not as effective an anti estrogen as Nolvadex. Nolvadex is therefore a good thing to add to any ph cycle.

What are the sides of 1ad, how can I combat these sides?
The common sides of 1ad are

Lethargy – Stacking 1AD with 4AD. Preload 4AD @ 100mg / day (dermal) or 300mg/day (oral) for 1 week.

Testicular atrophy a.k.a my balls are shrinking :
Yes, this is a common side effect of using any prohormone. However this is nothing to worry about. Under normal circumstances, you will get back to your normal size after the PCT.
Incase of extreme cases the following can be tried.
Day 1 Clomid @ 300mg
Week 1 Clomid @ 100mg
Week 2/3 Clomid @ 50mg

To the best of my knowledge this has cured all cases of testicular atrophy.

Puffy nipples, soreness aka gyno
To make a long story short excess test is converted to estrogen in the body. This leads to the famous problem called gyno. In most cases, estrogen based gyno can be handled too.
Week 1-2 Nolva @ 80mg
Week 3-4 Nolva @ 40mg
Week5-6 Nolva @ 20mg

Loss of libido, loss of erectile hardness etc in the PCT.
“I used 4AD, I was fine, but in the pct I am losing my drive”. This is another commonly heard complaint. If you want to get your drive back I would suggest using both Nolva and Clomid together. Clomid however makes you moody and prone to irritation, therefore be cautious and use clomid at lower doses.
If you want to have sex while using 1ad and are “ not able to get it up” then I would suggest you use Tadafil Citrate aka Cialis. I personally feel Cialis is more effective than Viagra.

What is preloading? How does it help my liver?
1ad takes the oral route within the body. The body’s natural filter is the liver. 1ad is toxic, this means that your liver will take a beating while you use 1ad. It is always better to preload that is to run a liver protector before jumping on the cycle.
Milk thistle @ 1000mg preloaded along with 4AD a week before the 1ad starts.
PCT Milk thistle @ 1000mg for 2 weeks.

What are other good supplements I can run along side 1ad.
Make sure you take your multivitamins and EFA’s. If creatine works for you , go for it. Pretty much I would recommend using 1ad for bulking.

I took 1ad/4ad, its 4 weeks up, I still don’t see any change. Why?
Well, its not the ph’s fault fault, there is some mistake on your part. Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.
Make sure your carbs and EFA’s are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on 1ad.

My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention attributed to the 4AD. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.

I have a product by xxx, which says it is a premade stack, how effective are they.
I do not believe in premade stacks because I feel that the active ingredient prohormone is not in high dosages as it is needed to be. Also t hese are costlier and not so flexible to use. I therefore would suggest you make your own stacks.

I do not know where to get the necessary supplements/ chems for my PCT.
Please do not ask on the forums for sources. I will try to help you through secure mail or pm’s.

I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.

[loern]

You've done it again.

Great info. How do you have the time to post all of this?

[Krzna]

Frankly i have no time, i had so much school work but could'nt finish anything so started writing this to take my mind away. I wanna write a m5aa - q and d too hope someone can help me.

[Mr Bubbles]

Do you normally take 1-AD by itself or do you normally run it with 4-AD???

Only reason I ask is because I have 1-AD but no 4-AD =(

Was thinking of running a cycle with...

1-AD
4-AD (BUT can't since it's gone!)
Multi
protein
CEE
Flax seed oil

I'm currently just lifting with all that but without the 1-AD & 4-AD

Perhaps I'll run a cycle without the 4-AD... Still not sure yet

[Krzna]

You can run 1ad on its own, no problem, just that you will feel a bit more sleepy and you will lose some sex drive, not much though.

[Mr Bubbles]

You can run 1ad on its own, no problem, just that you will feel a bit more sleepy and you will lose some sex drive, not much though.

Lose sex!?! Are you crazzy?!?

Thanks for the reply and the info, I appreciate the help.

Rep'd

[Krzna]

well i was pretty sexually active. read the m1t thread below my sig, it has all libido issues.

[mstngkiller]

Nolva? what product is this? Maybe Legal Gear Formadrol V2???

[ford4life]

you should put all of yours up and get a mod to sticky it as one
reps

[UliqMadiq]

Great post, once again.

To answer the above question, you can use 1AD standalone but I wouldn't recommend it unless you stick to a low dose. At the same time you are playing with the risk of not recovering your libido even past PCT, which for most of us would suck excessively. If you do decide to run the cycle, don't go over 300 mg daily of 1AD. You will see less gains, but without 4AD you'll have to deal with it.

Disclaimer:
Overall I do not condone the use of any of these products since these substances are illegal, and the same if not better results can be obtained from a Nitro-tech/Cell-tech stack. (If you don't mind looking like Ronnie Coleman in two or three days, add Pump-tech, but don't say I didn't warn you.)

[Nitrus3825]

Thanks man

[R_N_S]

only thing i wanna add is you need 3 bottles of 1ad for that cycle, also you said "The suppressive action of 1ad is not as extreme as 1ad", guessin you meant not as extreme at M1T, o and also I havent read many people preloading 4ad for 1ad, its usually done with M1T, but 1ad takes as long as 4ad to start kickin in

[Krzna]

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[wiseguy1111]

Bro, I never get tired of reading your threads. So much good info. Hell of a job again. Thanks for putting up the info so people like me can do the cycles the right way.

Thanks again.

[Krzna]

Bro, I never get tired of reading your threads. So much good info. Hell of a job again. Thanks for putting up the info so people like me can do the cycles the right way.

Thanks again.

u r very welcome bro. Say r u doin another cycle anytime soon? Let me know as I am still deciding on a cycle myself.

[wiseguy1111]

I've got a 4 week 1,4ad planned for August or September. I also picked up real nolva and clomid while I was on vacation. I take three to six months off between cycles to maximize the gains. It's all laid out and ready. I must say that this will be my last ph cycle.
My goal is 210 and I am confident I reach that with my next cycle.

[Krzna]

bro, do u have hushmail? if u do shoot me one krzna@hush.com. Can talk more abt the juice there.

[wiseguy1111]

Sorry no hus mail. Edited my post. PM sent.

[Kevinjd_2004]

people should post there gains and there final conclusions about the stack

[NightTrain]

people should post there gains and there final conclusions about the stack

I AGREE...!!!!!!!!!

[Tkarrde]

Hmm...I wrote an article just like this, over a year ago:

http://brinkzone.com/justin1.html

[Krzna]

lol... i can tell you for a fact that I've never seen that article, but its pretty close to what I've written. Good job TK.

[smitty99]

KRZNA-

How about lower back pain as a side? I am in the second week of a 1AD/4AD currently taking 600 1AD and 900 4AD no pain at 300 and 600 respectively. Three days into the increased dosage and lower back pain which goes away with rest. I am 6' 213lbs. I amseeing great gains just hard to deal with the back pain at work.

Thanks for any info

[Krzna]

KRZNA-

How about lower back pain as a side? I am in the second week of a 1AD/4AD currently taking 600 1AD and 900 4AD no pain at 300 and 600 respectively. Three days into the increased dosage and lower back pain which goes away with rest. I am 6' 213lbs. I amseeing great gains just hard to deal with the back pain at work.

Thanks for any info

Oops I did'nt throw that in to my write up I guess.
Lower back pains due to lack of Potassium. Throw in a banana, esp preworkout, watch those pumps increase and the pains go away.

[GonAbTheBest]

krzna is patrick arnold himself..lol

[kingmob]

This stuff is pimpin'. May be by reading all of K's posts, I can write one of these sticky's myself sometime in the future

[wiseguy1111]

I vote to make this a sticky.

[DejaBlue55]

bump this, too many 1AD threads lately...

[wiseguy1111]

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[chrishastey]

anyone you used 1-ad in a cycle should post there cycle and results in this forum