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Thread: If you like guns GTFIH !
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09-09-2009, 04:13 AM #61
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09-09-2009, 05:50 AM #62
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09-09-2009, 05:50 AM #63
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We all need to keep in mind that Mr. Fish was probably wearing a backpack that had some weight in it considering he was camping. Also, wasn't Mr. Fish in his late 50's? (I'll have to double check the facts on the case) The typical average male in his late 50's with a hiking backpack on isn't going to outrun many people.
There was a lot of testimony in this case that the deceased "victim" was aggressive and had temper control issues. I'm not sure how anyone can see this as a bad shoot. I personally wouldn't get in a fist fight with a gun on me and risk being disarmed by an attacker to have my own weapon used against me. I'd have to assume that if the deceased is crazy enough to approach me in an aggressive manner (even after giving his dogs warning shots) that he's after me to do extreme bodily harm. Besides what was he supposed to do? Holster his weapon and fist fight him?
This was a sh!tty situation to be in but I think he handled it as best as he could. Assuming that Mr. Fish is being 100% truthful with his story, I'm not sure what else he could have possibly done differently.
--Ok I just double checked and Harold Fish was 59 at the time of the shooting.Last edited by Preban_AR15; 09-09-2009 at 06:23 AM.
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09-09-2009, 07:36 AM #64
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09-09-2009, 07:42 AM #65
Haha, I have heard a lot of the people not liking the slide grip design, but everything about the gun it seems is more made for the feel and handling, even though the badass meter is off charts IMO. And of course, still the reliability and accuracy of a glock. I have fired it a few time already, they wont let me take it home, but i think paying a little extra and buying your gun from a place that will let you use it during the 10 day period is just awesome.
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09-09-2009, 07:56 AM #66
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09-09-2009, 09:30 AM #67
Those are cool rifles, a lot of folka are using them as training rifles. look at these:
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09-09-2009, 10:19 AM #68
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09-09-2009, 11:28 AM #69
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09-09-2009, 06:24 PM #71
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09-10-2009, 08:13 AM #72
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09-10-2009, 08:19 AM #73
It's an Advanced Technology folding stock. I ordered it from Midway USA (here's the link: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=285327).
It's nice and folds up well after a little adjusting (which requires a hex wrench). My only complaint is that it has no padding or recoil absorption so you'll get a nasty bruise on your shoulder when you shoot it. It's made of composite and seems pretty strong. Easy to install but must be removed every time you field strip (the pistol grip blocks the removal of the trigger). Hope this helps!Last edited by Zipsfb; 09-10-2009 at 08:22 AM.
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09-10-2009, 12:42 PM #74
He could have done a lot of things. I don't know Fish, and personally I feel like this nutjob deserved a bullet, but the law is different.
Good solution? Shoot the dogs and/or walk away and hope the dogs don't chase you.
There is no good *legal* solution to being assaulted by an unarmed person while carrying. What *should* he have done? Picked up his brass and dropped it closer to the deceased.This account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
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09-10-2009, 12:48 PM #75This account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
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09-10-2009, 10:29 PM #76
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09-11-2009, 12:27 AM #77
I have to disagree. The feel and handling is about as sucky as it gets. No glock ever made has felt right in my hands or pointed instinctively. I use a couple but only because they are reliable beyond compare and fit my needs. I have had to teach myself where they point and how to hold them through many long hours of instruction. The triggers that come on the factory glocks are also absolutely HORRIBLE. I have done some minor mods on all of mine that make them not suck in the entirety but I will never say that particular pistol manufacturer got it right. They make a very reliable pistol that has to be trained with a lot to be useful and has to be modified to even be useable.
Most colt and smith revolvers point very naturally. All 1911 pattern weapons point up very nicely. Most usp weapons do the same as do the sigarms line of pistols. Most of the smith semi autos point up well but not all.
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09-11-2009, 05:05 AM #78
I ordered an a "tactical" stock for my 500 Mossberg and it was made by Advance Technology. It wouldn't fit my 500, even though the reseller said it would. They shipped me a bolt whose head extended into the pistol grip cavity and wouldn't allow the stock to be inserted fully.
I had to return the item and get a full refund.
I've been leery about buying another stock again.
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09-11-2009, 05:26 AM #79
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09-11-2009, 09:46 AM #80
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09-16-2009, 08:30 AM #81
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02-26-2012, 10:40 PM #82
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02-27-2012, 05:35 AM #83
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02-27-2012, 05:55 AM #84
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02-27-2012, 07:37 AM #85
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02-27-2012, 08:58 AM #86
The scope is a 3.5x PU scope. The Russians say it's a 4x but they measure everything in Russian paces not yards, so technically it's a 3.5X.
I believe those mounts were specific to those scopes, but I suppose if the scope has a 1 inch tube, it would fit. Not sure how good the eye relief would be though. It would probably be way to far back or forward.
I know they make picatinny style mounts for mosins that you can put on, without cutting into the stock, like you do with the old PU scope mounts.
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02-27-2012, 09:30 AM #87
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02-27-2012, 01:00 PM #88
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolet...s_and_measures
The Russian "yard" or arshin (арши́н) is 71.12cm or 2 1/3 feet. So it's not a true 4x. I guess Cubit would have been a better description than paces.
They obviously don't use this anymore, but when they made the old PU scopes, it was.Last edited by AvsFreak; 02-27-2012 at 05:59 PM.
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02-27-2012, 01:28 PM #89
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