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    Originally Posted by GetBigyo View Post
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    please op if you arent trolling look at my above posts DO THAT. dont go to 230. just basically recomp
    what do you want me to do then? If i get to 230 from 170 that means I gained 60lb's. If half of that is fat (which would mean I utterly failed and didnt workout at all) then that means my LBM went up 30lb's. That means I can cut to like 195lb's and be at like 6%BF... that means awesomeness

    Look at it this way

    BEFORE: 170lbs, 9% BF = 154LBM

    + 30lb's LBM =

    184lb's LBM.

    So, when I cut down, let's say I lose about 4lb's of muscle and get to 195lb's

    That means at 195lb's, my LBM will be 180lb's. BF % will be 8% (15/195= 0.08)


    ..THEN i'll look awesome
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    Originally Posted by GetBigyo View Post
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    please op if you arent trolling look at my above posts DO THAT. dont go to 230. just basically recomp
    I disagree completely

    I want to see 230 lbs!

    DO IT. DO IT. DO IT.
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    looks like you lost muscle as well as gaining fat. reevaluate what u did, its not for you
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    what do you want me to do then? If i get to 230 from 170 that means I gained 60lb's. If half of that is fat (which would mean I utterly failed and didnt workout at all) then that means my LBM went up 30lb's. That means I can cut to like 195lb's and be at like 6%BF... that means awesomeness

    Look at it this way

    BEFORE: 170lbs, 9% BF = 154LBM

    + 30lb's LBM =

    184lb's LBM.

    So, when I cut down, let's say I lose about 4lb's of muscle and get to 195lb's

    That means at 195lb's, my LBM will be 180lb's. BF % will be 8% (15/195= 0.08)


    ..THEN i'll look awesome
    but in reality, you will gain 60lbs and maybe 10lbs of muscle(being generous)..........your body does not add muscle that quickly, more food does not speed up the process either once you have met requirements.
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    what do you want me to do then? If i get to 230 from 170 that means I gained 60lb's. If half of that is fat (which would mean I utterly failed and didnt workout at all) then that means my LBM went up 30lb's. That means I can cut to like 195lb's and be at like 6%BF... that means awesomeness

    Look at it this way

    BEFORE: 170lbs, 9% BF = 154LBM

    + 30lb's LBM =

    184lb's LBM.

    So, when I cut down, let's say I lose about 4lb's of muscle and get to 195lb's

    That means at 195lb's, my LBM will be 180lb's. BF % will be 8% (15/195= 0.08)


    ..THEN i'll look awesome



    do it.
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    what do you want me to do then? If i get to 230 from 170 that means I gained 60lb's. If half of that is fat (which would mean I utterly failed and didnt workout at all) then that means my LBM went up 30lb's. That means I can cut to like 195lb's and be at like 6%BF... that means awesomeness

    Look at it this way

    BEFORE: 170lbs, 9% BF = 154LBM

    + 30lb's LBM =

    184lb's LBM.

    So, when I cut down, let's say I lose about 4lb's of muscle and get to 195lb's

    That means at 195lb's, my LBM will be 180lb's. BF % will be 8% (15/195= 0.08)


    ..THEN i'll look awesome
    LMFAO you have to be kidding me you just gained 100% fat over the last few months work, does not look like you gained a pound of muscle to me at all, so stop talking bull**** and do a recomp now before you realise that you will be a huge fat fuk if you bulk to 230!

    You will do a cut and then crawl up and die when you realise your the same size if not smaller than a year previous.
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    Originally Posted by Full_Blown View Post
    but in reality, you will gain 60lbs and maybe 10lbs of muscle(being generous)..........your body does not add muscle that quickly, more food does not speed up the process either once you have met requirements.
    sure but I'm going to start supplementing with ZMA and Xtend from Scivation (look at their recent study!) in the next month, up until I get to 230. Supplements greatly increase the body's ability to gain muscle.

    Then, when I cut i'm thinking of running an ECA stack to prevent muscle loss, as well as starting to megadose Controlled Lab's White Flood/Green Mag stack (different type of creatine in there that's better at helping you body keep muscle as opposed to the Cell-Tech that I'm taking now)
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    sure but I'm going to start supplementing with ZMA and Xtend from Scivation (look at their recent study!) in the next month, up until I get to 230. Supplements greatly increase the body's ability to gain muscle.

    Then, when I cut i'm thinking of running an ECA stack to prevent muscle loss, as well as starting to megadose Controlled Lab's White Flood/Green Mag stack (different type of creatine in there that's better at helping you body keep muscle as opposed to the Cell-Tech that I'm taking now)
    If you think otc supplements GREATLY increase the bodies ability to gain muscle you are a *******.

    Then cutting on ECA, you really do fail so bad.
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    Also, to everybody who says you can't gain 1lb of muscle a week:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113689801


    The people in the study gained 9lb's of muscle and LOST 4lb's of fat!! And that's without prohormones or steroids. Im going to take that supplement and do the same thing
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    Also, to everybody who says you can't gain 1lb of muscle a week:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113689801


    The people in the study gained 9lb's of muscle and LOST 4lb's of fat!! And that's without prohormones or steroids. Im going to take that supplement and do the same thing
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    Originally Posted by NigelThornberry View Post
    *facepalm*

    oh, did I mention that happened in EIGHT WEEKS?

    there's a real scietific study as opposed to all the "broscience" i keep hearing on this thread
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    Also, to everybody who says you can't gain 1lb of muscle a week:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113689801


    The people in the study gained 9lb's of muscle and LOST 4lb's of fat!! And that's without prohormones or steroids. Im going to take that supplement and do the same thing
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    Also, to everybody who says you can't gain 1lb of muscle a week:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113689801


    The people in the study gained 9lb's of muscle and LOST 4lb's of fat!! And that's without prohormones or steroids. Im going to take that supplement and do the same thing
    So you think its the same for everyone?

    They are probably new to weights and fuking dosile before.

    Please, stop digging yourself into a huge hole, you fool.]

    I would bet $1000 that you will not be near 200lbs 6% fat like you say you will in your time frame.

    I will actually do this, $1000 bet.
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    Originally Posted by Wevans2303 View Post
    So you think its the same for everyone?

    They are probably new to weights and fuking dosile before.

    Please, stop digging yourself into a huge hole, you fool.]

    I would bet $1000 that you will not be near 200lbs 6% fat like you say you will in your time frame.

    I will actually do this, $1000 bet.

    not new to weights, they've been training at least 2 years
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    Also, to everybody who says you can't gain 1lb of muscle a week:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113689801


    The people in the study gained 9lb's of muscle and LOST 4lb's of fat!! And that's without prohormones or steroids. Im going to take that supplement and do the same thing
    Have fun with that
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    not new to weights, they've been training at least 2 years
    lmao.

    it is a study done by the company, being posted by reps. you are quite naive.
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    Originally Posted by Full_Blown View Post
    lmao.

    it is a study done by the company, being posted by reps. you are quite naive.
    so?
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    Vadox do you want to take me up on this bet, when do you think you will hit 6% lean at 184 or whatever you claim.

    With your current knowledge......NEVER.
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    so?
    none of their statements have to be true at all, they can conduct/interpret the study however they please.

    they had a gatorade group that lost 1lb of fat, whey protein group gained 5lbs of muscle and lost fat.

    xtend is just amino acids, it is a good product, but it does not have that large of an effect, nor does any non hormonal supplement. you are expecting way too much from supplements.
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    Originally Posted by Wevans2303 View Post
    Vadox do you want to take me up on this bet, when do you think you will hit 6% lean at 184 or whatever you claim.

    With your current knowledge......NEVER.
    lol i dunno anymore maybe but all u guiys on the thread seem to be thinking i dont know anything at all

    and i guess group mentallity is worth something..

    i still think ican do it tho,
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    listen GUIZE, i understand it takes time to get to a good before/after thing. When i cut, and i compare the before with after, it'll be a lot better. think of this as "halfway" thru the transformation
    i sea what you did there. troll.
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    You look doughy now, looks like you are getting too many calories
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    I think it was better before I think u got the wrong idea on bulking
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    IMO, there's no problem bulking to 230lbs at this point. OP's BF% is SO HIGH at this point, it'd be difficult to look any fatter taken that he's doing a slow bulk (.6lb-1lb a week). Try to gain the 25lbs in a one year period and a large percentage of it will come from muscle assuming you don't have the genetics of a girl. Your BF% will probably decrease in a bulk like that, THEN you can cut all the fat you gained from this moronic bulk of yours (lol 2800cals to 4300...). I guess at least you gained some muscle during the bulk, lol.
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    Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    lol i dunno anymore maybe but all u guiys on the thread seem to be thinking i dont know anything at all

    and i guess group mentallity is worth something..

    i still think ican do it tho,
    Well you clearly dont know anything because your under the impression your bulk was a succes, most of the people on here will agree it was a total failure.

    You gained 30lbs of fat, no muscle.

    I hate to say it but it looks like you stopped lifting and hopped it down to macdonalds for 6 months.

    Also, it looks like the pictures should be the other way round, the before pic should be the after pic.
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    looks like you gained a lot of fat.
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