Has anybody ever heard of this stuff or used it and had success? Or taken it while on a diet/workout plan and feel like it helped?
I saw Dr. Oz talking about it on his show last night so just wondering if I should give it a shot to assist with my dieting and workout routine.
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Thread: Raspberry Ketone
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02-07-2012, 06:52 PM #1
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02-07-2012, 07:25 PM #4
Smart men . RKs are outstanding for overall health, but their benefits go beyond that. As kevin1st pointed out, he is continuing to progress on hit cut despite bad cheat days...research in rats shows that RKs reduce adipose weight gain as a result of a high fat diet, which may explain kevin1st's ability to cheat on his diet more often than usual. 1 cap RK-500 + 1 cap TTA-500 in the AM and PM is the way to go.
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02-07-2012, 07:29 PM #5
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02-07-2012, 08:36 PM #11
lolz bro i understand that he knows nothing about supplements and we all know someone who watches those tv shows and says dumb stuff. I agree that Dr. is all you need BUT i was merely stating that in this case, some individuals in the fitness community might acctually agree with him in that ketones are a good fat loss supp. they just wouldnt agree with the fact that everyone including couch potatoes are jumpin on the bandwagon yelling woooo getting ripped whilst eating a bag o chips
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02-07-2012, 08:48 PM #12
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02-07-2012, 09:56 PM #19
It is not. The study in question was done in vitro as opposed to the rat studies done on lipolysis, which are certainly of signficantly greater merit.
Also, here is PA's take on RKs and anti-androgens:
"your hypothalamus has androgen receptors. it also has estrogen and progesterone receptors, and all of these will bind to circulating sex hormones. When they bind and activate they initiate the negative feedback signal. If you block them and prevent their activation then you will block the negative feedback and your sex hormone production will go up
i think you just forgot the fact that your HPTA works via receptors"
^He is basically saying that T production will go up. Now I'm not entirely sure if that applies to what we are doing, but consider this:
Green Tea Extract is estrogenic IN VIVO (rats and cancer patients). This should be of a much larger concern than RKs, yet this is overlooked simply because Green Tea Extract has SO MANY benefits in spite of its low oral bioavailability. The same applies to RKs, though in my opinion, the pros outweigh the possible cons to an even further degree. If you are concerned about possible androgen antagonism (which I feel you should not be, based on the single in vitro study), I would simply supplement LCLT to increase androgen receptor density. Either way, the difference is transient and really not worth noting.
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02-08-2012, 08:57 AM #20
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04-05-2012, 08:05 PM #24
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