to all those who say that there never will be another Coleman...

[DanielEver]

you are clearly making a false statement.

what's so great about Coleman is a unique combination of the following features:

1) good sceletal proportions

2) nice muscle shape and insertions

3) great response to "supplements"

4) a training regime that worked good for him

5) decision to devote enough time to bodybuilding

it's highly unlikely that we find all those features among the population on the regular base, but still the probability of it is higher than 0.

therefore, telling that "there NEVER will be another Coleman" is a simply statistically failed statement.

i'm done.

[___]

Well.. statistically, out of billions of people in the world there was only one Ronnie Coleman.. and he was way ahead of everyone else..

[TTimmerman]

you are clearly making a false statement.

what's so great about Coleman is a unique combination of the following features:

1) insane skeletal proportions

2) the best ever muscle shape and insertions

3) insane response to "supplements"

4) a training regime that worked good for him, without causing injuries early in his career

5) decision to devote enough time to bodybuilding, and start lifting in the first place

there ya go

[Riflemancho]

Coleman had near perfect structure and insertions. He sure had flaws, but they were little, exept the distention in his abs, his calves were short inserted, but most black people's calves seem to have short insertion, and his biggest flaw in my opinion, his triceps lateral head. It had poor insertions, and was too thin. That was shown in the side tri pose.

[spamy]

Ronnie Coleman is the best counterargument against those saying that will never be another Ronnie Coleman. From 16th in 92, poor placings and not a very impressive physique to the best ever. Who knew back then?

[nsxmatt]

Well unless they clone him, give him the same name, and have him train and eat exactly the same, then there will be only one Ronnie Coleman. Can't argue with DNA smarty pants.

I think in your great wisdom and post making rush you forgot to say, "There will never be another one LIKE Coleman"

[tarrask]

Ronnie Coleman is the best counterargument against those saying that will never be another Ronnie Coleman. From 16th in 92, poor placings and not a very impressive physique to the best ever. Who knew back then?

Nice argument
we will never know until it's done.

[NVious]

Well.. statistically, out of billions of people in the world there was only one Ronnie Coleman.. and he was way ahead of everyone else..

Lol no, how many people take up bodybuilding? Let alone dedicate themselves enough to it to achieve something special.

Ronnie Coleman's genetics are rare, but definitely not one in 7 billion. There are probably Colemans in gyms across America, they're simply not dedicated enough, don't care about bodybuilding enough or aren't willing to do what it takes to be a professional.

[FAN0FdaSport]

i dont even think there'll be another bber that diets with bbq sauce let alone a complete copy of the man

[DomzyCuttin]

Lol no, how many people take up bodybuilding? Let alone dedicate themselves enough to it to achieve something special.

Ronnie Coleman's genetics are rare, but definitely not one in 7 billion. There are probably Colemans in gyms across America, they're simply not dedicated enough, don't care about bodybuilding enough or aren't willing to do what it takes to be a professional.

Exactly. Even if 1 in 1000 have his genetics, only 1 in 15000 people will compete. What are the chances the other Ronnies are even going to compete, and if so, have the dedication to take it SO far. Numbers were educated guesses pulled out of my ass.

[dabbe]

Lol no, how many people take up bodybuilding? Let alone dedicate themselves enough to it to achieve something special.

Ronnie Coleman's genetics are rare, but definitely not one in 7 billion. There are probably Colemans in gyms across America, they're simply not dedicated enough, don't care about bodybuilding enough or aren't willing to do what it takes to be a professional.

agreed, i see people in my gym who have insane genetics with 0 work ethic yet they still look like they dedicate there life

[___]

Lol no, how many people take up bodybuilding? Let alone dedicate themselves enough to it to achieve something special.

Ronnie Coleman's genetics are rare, but definitely not one in 7 billion. There are probably Colemans in gyms across America, they're simply not dedicated enough, don't care about bodybuilding enough or aren't willing to do what it takes to be a professional.

thats really the point..

but in reality it doesnt matter.. if there will be someone better time will tell.. otherwise its just guessing

[Ajthemeso]

fukking sigh

[JCTWP46]

Ronnie Coleman is the best counterargument against those saying that will never be another Ronnie Coleman. From 16th in 92, poor placings and not a very impressive physique to the best ever. Who knew back then?

It really is something how we went from 9th to 1st in one year:

1992 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : did not place
1994 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 15th
1995 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 11th
1996 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 6th
1997 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 9th
1998 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
1999 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2000 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2001 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2002 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2003 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2004 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2005 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 1st
2006 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 2nd
2007 - IFBB Mr. Olympia : 4th

[MrSilverback]

there ya go

Pretty much.

A lot of it is luck.

Orville Burke was said to be the guy who was going to dethrone Ronnie. Maybe could have. He then went for surgery and lapsed into a coma for 3 months. That's bad luck if i've ever heard it.

[MaKaiser]

I think theres alot of coudlve beens in Bodybuilding.
Didnt Ronnie himself predict Vic as the guy to take over ?
Again like Orville he just had some unfortunate things sidetrack his career. Well alot of them.

[weltweitefurcht]

Then again, some of the best genetics are in the NFL (at least here in America)

Even Ronnie was playing football in highschool

You figure that even if there is someone with the Ronnie characteristics the OP describes, they might get pulled into another sport first. Especially football where there is lots of money/fame/glory to be had.

[FAN0FdaSport]

popular consensus is the best bbing genetics are playing football

phil seems to think so
shawn ray would have did it till he realized he wanted to do a solo sport

[purdey]

Pretty much.

A lot of it is luck.

Orville Burke was said to be the guy who was going to dethrone Ronnie. Maybe could have. He then went for surgery and lapsed into a coma for 3 months. That's bad luck if i've ever heard it.

Orvilles bad luck began in the womb where he developed those super high lat insertions

[RoroCwalker]

I believe McMillan can pull of an early years Ronnie.

[Pump Freak 86]

Then again, some of the best genetics are in the NFL (at least here in America)

Even Ronnie was playing football in highschool

You figure that even if there is someone with the Ronnie characteristics the OP describes, they might get pulled into another sport first. Especially football where there is lots of money/fame/glory to be had.

This is a good point. If another Ronnie Coleman exists, he probably plays in the NFL.

[KuRdiSh]

Honestly I bet theres a bunch of guys who could out-do ronnie genetic wise, but the problem is all of them go on to play professional sports. Not many have the love for bodybuilding needed to get to mr olympia level.

[62Wolf]

Heath got what, $250,000 for his Olympia win. Ya, I know, add in his supplement endorsements, blah, blah, blah. It still pales in comparison to what Pro Ballers make, so I don't blame them.

[BartPimpson]

There will never be another Coleman.

There will be someone better than Coleman.

[purdey]

Honestly I bet theres a bunch of guys who could out-do ronnie genetic wise, but the problem is all of them go on to play professional sports. Not many have the love for bodybuilding needed to get to mr olympia level.

Lets just pray that they all get career ending injuries and move into bodybuilding. haha nah but A lot of sports people find a love for bodybuilding whilst training for their given sport, so there is still hope. Not to mention a lot of them will already have XP with PED's

[u5711]

ronnie coleman has something like 20-30 kids out there. I'm sure if they train with the "gurus" they will be elite too!

[Larfleeze]

There are probably a lot of dudes out there with genetics surpassing Ronnie who will never even pick up a weight never mind dedicate their lives to it, such is the problem with a niche sport, we can hope though.

[ltrrtl218]

if u took every male on this planet and made them start training, supping and dedicating their life to bodybuilding at a young age i would still be kinda surprised if there is someone out there that could match ronnie let alone be superior to him.

[JanesLastResort]

semantics "of peace".

[Dimaline312000]

Can't really contribute anymore to this thread other than I really wanna say Ronnie Coleman was one of my favorite Body Builders of All-Time!!