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05-22-2013, 06:05 PM #61
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05-22-2013, 07:28 PM #62
Hope it tastes good, only negative is the fat burning protein type talk, but such is marketing. I don't suppose it's any different really than saying "muscle building" protein.
Protein market is getting crowded. Every company coming out with a new one and I have lots I already wanna try. Gotta admit the days of slugging down nasty protein are over. So much good tasting stuff on the market now.
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05-22-2013, 07:49 PM #63
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05-22-2013, 08:19 PM #64
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05-22-2013, 08:23 PM #65
I like how they are calling out other companies bullsh!t. Having worked at a cGMP contract blender i know about this first hand. This is why I would like dave to drop creatine/taurine from UP2.0.
On the other hand, I think USPlabs should have produced independent lab tests of there product to back up there claims.
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05-22-2013, 08:55 PM #66
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05-22-2013, 08:58 PM #67
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05-22-2013, 09:01 PM #68
I dont know why he says that, Its not like when then pull the sample for testing the glycine/creatine is not in it. When I ran that testing we never separated that out as there is no way to when testing finished product. There is no magical math formula to do it. It doesn't take much to hit your numbers when testing for nitrogen content. Plus, if its that small amount why even have it?
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05-22-2013, 09:05 PM #69
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05-22-2013, 09:07 PM #71
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05-22-2013, 09:09 PM #72
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05-22-2013, 09:12 PM #73
When i used to check batch records before blending we didn't need much glycine/taurine to cover up the use of 34% WPC when we should have been using WPC80%. That's why i bring it up. I'm a fan of Dave as I have talked to him before in the past but trust me because its separated out on the label doesn't mean its separated out during testing. QC testing helps determine and develop proper label claims but people can BS them.
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05-22-2013, 09:14 PM #74
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I fail to see the point here.
Dave uses strictly Whey Isolate and Micelluar Casein in XF 2.0. And then the Taurine and Creatine are seperate. There is 18 grams of protein, then the other stuff gets added.
If you think Dave is "fooling" us by saying he separates its out on the label, but isn't, and its part of the "protein blend" and you are getting shorted 700 mg of protein. You have some serious ****ing issues.Krispy Kreme Krew Forever.
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05-22-2013, 09:15 PM #75
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05-22-2013, 09:18 PM #76
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05-22-2013, 09:21 PM #78
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For some reason I don't think Dave is giving us the shaft. There are "other" tests besides nitrogen tests to test protein, and i'm sure they've been done before on UP 2.0
They can always run a test to see how much Taurine and Creatine is in the batch or even the tub. With how popular XF is on this boards, I'm sure its been done before. And yet, nothings been posted. Cause I would be sure some companies would be ITCHING to post something damning like that.Krispy Kreme Krew Forever.
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05-22-2013, 09:22 PM #79
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05-22-2013, 09:24 PM #80
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05-22-2013, 09:25 PM #81
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05-22-2013, 09:37 PM #82
I'm not sure of the legal ramifications but even tho I've moved on to greener pastures I probably couldn't/shouldn't. I don't need to fall in the ranks with syntrax.
Not really as the industry standard for protein testing is Nitrogen content, the majority of the time from Kjeldhal which is seen as A'OK by the FDA and other auditing officals whether is a science foundation or customers. Its fast, cheap and easy to train people on (usually). There are other testing but its usually done by equipment that a contract blender would not have on site so it's much more expensive then doing it in house. I've ran NIR with a program that can calc fat/protein content and it never really fully matched up to the Kjeldhal results with products containing glycine and such. However, no auditing group sees it as a reliable tool for that as it can be unreliable for nutritionals.
Anyways, just trying to inform people but 99% of people have no idea how these things work in the industry. I will say that some companies really go the extra mile. But mostly the ones that make there own products and done contract them out.Last edited by EricTheRed; 05-22-2013 at 09:43 PM.
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05-23-2013, 05:49 AM #85
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