That guy is my age, he's 6 pounds heavier than me, never lifted a single dumbbell and he easily beat me at arm wrestling. Now I have to say that my pecs, delts and lats were sore at the time due to training but I still don't understand how a relatively normal non-bodybuilder could put out more strengh than me, I've been training for 2 years.
Does it mean this guy could lift heavier weights than me in the gym or did I lose because the mechanics involved in arm wrestling are very different from those of any classic BBing exercise? Or does muscle soreness drastically lower force output or CNS capabilities? BTW the guy told me in the end that no one had ever beaten him, which kind of relieves me. But if there's a way I can beat him next time (like stopping BBing for one week to fully recover), I'd be glad to know.
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03-15-2007, 08:47 AM #1Registered User
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Non-bodybuilder guy beats me at arm wrestling
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03-15-2007, 09:05 AM #2
Genetics, some people are naturally very big and/or strong(er than you) without ever lifting. Its not that uncommon.
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03-15-2007, 09:05 AM #3CONQUERER
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strong RC, wrist and arms are very important. but more important is practice.
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03-15-2007, 09:19 AM #4Registered User
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if you think about the motion of arm wrestling, its not a normal movement that is performed in any bbing exercise. Your rotater cuff plays a major role in arm wrestling. Its more about genetics, but you could try doing internal roatations (i think that is what they're called) to strengthen that movement.
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03-15-2007, 09:21 AM #5dunn dunn
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strong tendons/legaments.. he may beat you at arm wrestling, but go to a strongman comp and see what he can do
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03-15-2007, 09:33 AM #6yo yo yo
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goodness man, are you serious?????Originally Posted by runningtherack
what the hell does lifting weights have to do with arm wrestling? Have you ever seen some of the arm wrestling champions, sure some are big, but many are just skinny guys who are good at arm wrestling. Some people are good at arm wrestling some aren't.
2nd of all who cares??? It means nothing! It does not mean he could lift more than or is stronger.
You beating him has NOTHING to do with bodybuilding or how strong you are. He is a good arm wrestler your not, that's all.
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03-15-2007, 09:40 AM #7Soap box squatting.
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I would say it would be a complete toss up over who would do better in strongman events. "Bodybuilders" don't typically train in a fashion that would make them a good strongman.Originally Posted by bxbombers
Earth to OP, lifting for two years doesn't make you the strongest person in the world. Chances are this guy DOES work out, but maybe that workout comes in the form of swinging a heavy axe to split wood, or turning a wrench all day. You never know what people do, and being a bodybuilder is an absolute worthless characteristic when you are competing in NON-BODYBUILDING activities! Sounds like you took a blow to your ego. I doubt it was the first, and it won't be the last. That is life. There is always someone out there who is bigger, better and faster.
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03-15-2007, 09:56 AM #8Registered User
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Ive beaten many many people at arm wrestling in my time lol.. I am one of those people that is naturally good at it and Ive beaten alot of people that were 60 - 80 pounds heavier than me, and I beat them with ease.. And these are people that exercised. I always wonder whats the difference between me and them that makes it so simple for me to beat alot of the people I do. It seems like my muscles pounds for pound are just alot stronger than alot of other peoples or something lol.
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03-15-2007, 10:20 AM #9grow stronger comrade
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^^^^^Originally Posted by Andrew.Cook
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
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03-15-2007, 10:30 AM #10KNEES GO PAST TOES
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Arm wrestling is a lot of technique, as well takes strength in the wrist, hands, arms and joints that isn't trained doing any type of mainstream bodybuilding workout.
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03-15-2007, 10:32 AM #11Keto FTMFW!
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Congratulations on finding from experience that arm wrestling is worthless as a test of strength
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03-15-2007, 10:32 AM #12Still looking better
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its allot of technique..
best i have done is 13 guys one after the other,most of them outweighed me by 10=100 lbs...
I still do it, it's funny as hell to see a young guy get all pissed that an old man beat his ass in public...
oh and a really strong back and shoulder... heheheeee...
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03-15-2007, 10:33 AM #13Registered User
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Ok.
I'll go tell that guy that arm wrestling means nothing but he has strong ligaments before he brags about beating me in front of everyone I know. This guy sure shook my ego...
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03-15-2007, 10:35 AM #14grow stronger comrade
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Originally Posted by runningtherack
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams
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03-15-2007, 10:36 AM #15Soap box squatting.
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^^^^Originally Posted by SpyWizard
got homo?
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03-15-2007, 10:40 AM #16Soap box squatting.
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Yes, I would go publicly admit that he totally deflated your manhood. It is the only action that could top POSTING it for hundreds... er, dozens... of people to read.Originally Posted by runningtherack
By the way, have you caught the "I stomped this douche in armwrestling, and he has lifted for two years" thread? I think you two might know eachother.
^^^Originally Posted by rockhuddy
Indeed.
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03-15-2007, 10:44 AM #17
I lift weights and refuse to arm wrestle anyone so that they can't say "Hey I beat you and I don't even lift weights." One might have nothing to do with the other, but you'll look stupid.
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03-15-2007, 10:52 AM #18Registered User
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Take comfort knowing that you probably would've beaten your "2 year ago" self in arm wrestling.
Bodybuilding will not make you a better fighter. It wont make you a better arm wrestler. It won't even guarantee you are stronger than people smaller than you who don't lift weights.
Bodybuilding is the art of illusions-making yourself seem like a bigger guy who might intimidate others in a fight; intimidate your opponent in arm wrestling.
Lesson learned: Leave your ego at home. Dont bring it to the gym and don't flash it amongst your peers.TYIA
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03-15-2007, 11:16 AM #19Banned
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Strength does matter, just not your bench, row, shoulder press, squat, deadlift, clean, or pullups.Originally Posted by Flex500
goodness man, are you serious?????
what the hell does lifting weights have to do with arm wrestling? Have you ever seen some of the arm wrestling champions, sure some are big, but many are just skinny guys who are good at arm wrestling. But they all have insanely strong forearms and hands
Some people are good at arm wrestling some aren't.
You beating him has NOTHING to do with bodybuilding or how strong you are. He is a good arm wrestler your not, that's all.
Forearm strength is the most important. If your forearm is stronger than theirs, you will probably be able to curl their wrist back, which give you a huge advantage.
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03-15-2007, 11:16 AM #20Soap box squatting.
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^^^Originally Posted by legends159
Corrected.
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03-15-2007, 02:44 PM #21Registered User
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All that and shoulder strength. Technique/form comes into play a lot. I've seen a bunch of people do arm wrestling as a bicep competition, it's not. You want a small angle between forearm and upper arm, and use a lot more shoulder and body.Originally Posted by GoJu
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03-15-2007, 02:48 PM #22
It's all about leverage... how long are your arms compared to this other guy's?
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03-15-2007, 03:19 PM #23Registered User
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Mine were just a little shorter.
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03-15-2007, 03:27 PM #24<3 Tea
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Originally Posted by runningtherack
if i were you i'd just give up bb'ing after that. i train for those moments, they never come but im ready when they do.
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03-15-2007, 03:58 PM #25Registered Abuser
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The arm wrestling motion is pretty much just an external rotation or Cuban rotation but the force is acting in the opposite direction.
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03-15-2007, 04:07 PM #26Registered User
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Arm wrestling is a mistake if you're a bodybuilder. It's damaging to your RC's and can put you out of commission if you're not careful.
That said, internal cable rotations and some forearm/grip work will help your cause, if you're absolutely set on beating this guy. If you're shorter, though, he will still have the leverage advantage.
Good luck, and be careful.
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03-15-2007, 04:33 PM #27Registered User
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yes, I agree. another thing to remember is that bodybuilding isn't to build manageable strength. It does build manageable strength, but not as much as if you'd train like a power lifter, etc. and also, being sore does make it harder.Originally Posted by D-Y
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03-15-2007, 05:23 PM #28Yep, vegetarian.
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its not a strength thing..
just dont arm wrestle, why risk hurting your cuffs?My journal http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5662511
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03-15-2007, 07:33 PM #29HARD gainer
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Before we had some pizza the other night I arm-wrestled with my friend, who has been lifting many more years than me, is MUCH stronger than me, bigger than me, and wrestled for years. I beat him as if it was nothing.
Hence, arm-wrestling doesn't. mean. sh!t !!
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03-15-2007, 07:40 PM #30Registered User
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lol another bodybuilder thinking hes automatically stronger than everyone
same with fights, just cuase you lift doesnt mean youll win
Some people are good at arm wrestling some aren't.
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