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05-09-2011, 08:31 PM #1
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05-09-2011, 08:48 PM #2
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05-09-2011, 08:56 PM #3
top 5
big z
john pall
pudz
bill
magnusupdated 2011
Hw-Alistair overeem, Brock lesnar, Sergei Kharitonov
Lhw-jon jones, Gegard Mousasi, Lyoto machida
Mw-Chael sonnen, Yushin Okami, Ronaldo souza
ww-Jake shields, Ben Askren, Josh Koscheck
lw-Bj penn, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Eddie Alvarez
fw-jose aldo, Hatsu Hioki, Kenny Florian
bw-Urijah Faber
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05-09-2011, 09:02 PM #4
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05-09-2011, 09:03 PM #5
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05-09-2011, 09:08 PM #6
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05-09-2011, 09:34 PM #7
dude you oughta check out my mma strongman post in misc it has 8 pages of debat going on as of now my main point is i say heavyweights lightheavyweights would be able to beat strongmen but 400lb plus strongman would be able to beat 155 lbers do to the unimaginable strength difference overrding the skill difference there too strong to get submittede by a 155 no matter if its 100 percnet locked in and can easily use their weight for a slam and wont be able to get them off from on top should be able to mount easily due to size and strength
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05-09-2011, 09:39 PM #8
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05-09-2011, 09:39 PM #9
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05-09-2011, 09:52 PM #10
1. Magnus
2. Ort
3. Bill
4. John Pall
5. Big Z
Did my rating based on personality and strength. Don't really care for Shaw and Z is on that list just for his accomplishments I've seen. Never heard him speak english in an interview so I could understand him, but he's one of the strongest men alive, no question.
Bill, I feel made the largest contribution towards WSM as far as a competitor goes.
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05-09-2011, 10:01 PM #11
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05-09-2011, 10:17 PM #12
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05-09-2011, 10:56 PM #13
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05-10-2011, 04:04 AM #15
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05-10-2011, 06:15 AM #17
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05-10-2011, 06:20 AM #18
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05-10-2011, 06:30 AM #19
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05-10-2011, 06:58 AM #20
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05-10-2011, 07:02 AM #21
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05-10-2011, 01:05 PM #22
My knowledge of WSM has been mainly dependent on TV and i would have said JPS without doubt untill i saw a documentry about the competition which stated, as has been mentioned above that-Bill was pushed out during his peak and would have gained anything from about 1-5 more wins. We will never know now of course but he has to be considersd one of the all time greats.
Jps once stated that Jamie Reeves was the only man to beat him when he was in good shape (meening without injuries) but obviously he didnt win as many WSM comps.
1 Hulk
2 Thor
3 Rhino
4 JPS
5 Big Z
6 Marius
7 Bill
8 Magnus
9 Yuko
10 Jamie
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05-10-2011, 01:08 PM #23
Joint first with Big Z!
Those are the 2 guys who I honestly believe was the outright strongest person on the planet, that includes WSM plus at static stuff. They have it all, I mean some of the guys have got long arms so are great at deadlift but not so great pressers, but these pair literally have massive press, pull and squat while also being great at all the weird strongman events.288 crew
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05-10-2011, 01:43 PM #24
yeah I know, but the problem is you gotta go on assumptions then...no guarantee the next year he wouldnt have been injured and lost, gotten beat on an off day, etc... sucks bc youll never know how many he could've won.
also remember Mariusz lost a year due to the performance enhancing test
i think it depends whether it was more of an arnold type event with more heavy, static lifts or a WSM type event with a mix of those and the dynamic events... Kaz had more outright strength but MP is alot better athlete and would smoke him in the moving events
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05-10-2011, 02:23 PM #25
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05-10-2011, 02:31 PM #26
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05-10-2011, 03:03 PM #27
Bill is the stongest man to ever live........he said so himself
IMHO, he's the greatest strongman ever. As a kid I thought he wasn't really a human.
I still remember a pic of him up on the wall at the old Golds I trained at, it was a back shot. He made all the Mr.O's look like children.
Need vid up in here.
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05-10-2011, 04:02 PM #28
was it this one? Its a pretty crazy shot of his back never seen that kind of thickness even on bodybuilders.
He is for sure one of the all time greats, I personally wouldn't say he is the best pure strongman though. I think guy like big z who has really dominated for close to a decade is the best ever in pure strongman, not to mention all the records he has set. Yet bill was the first guy to really just dominate in strongman like noone else, and was a high level powerlifter also. He is the idol of most of the current strongman.updated 2011
Hw-Alistair overeem, Brock lesnar, Sergei Kharitonov
Lhw-jon jones, Gegard Mousasi, Lyoto machida
Mw-Chael sonnen, Yushin Okami, Ronaldo souza
ww-Jake shields, Ben Askren, Josh Koscheck
lw-Bj penn, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Eddie Alvarez
fw-jose aldo, Hatsu Hioki, Kenny Florian
bw-Urijah Faber
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05-10-2011, 04:19 PM #29
Tough to say, top 5, maybe top 3.
The other guys in the conversation have to be Big Z, Mariusz, Magnus, and Jon Pall.Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
"You can't beat mah prices, but you can beat mah meat." - Dusty Rhodes
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05-10-2011, 04:25 PM #30
filling out a xxxlupdated 2011
Hw-Alistair overeem, Brock lesnar, Sergei Kharitonov
Lhw-jon jones, Gegard Mousasi, Lyoto machida
Mw-Chael sonnen, Yushin Okami, Ronaldo souza
ww-Jake shields, Ben Askren, Josh Koscheck
lw-Bj penn, Tatsuya Kawajiri, Eddie Alvarez
fw-jose aldo, Hatsu Hioki, Kenny Florian
bw-Urijah Faber
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