What is your natural limit?

[OneMA2011]

I always see these threads where people are talking about natural limits and genetic limits.


They're much higher than you think.

I am currently a high BF 220 and recomping. I can easily put on a lot of muscle just by changing up my routine and diet. Then cutting out carbs and fats to shred up.


Post ITT and I'll tell you your genetic limit srs.



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[S3RB0N]

In.

What's my natural limit. Also i took creatine once if that's important...

[OneMA2011]

In.

What's my natural limit. Also i took creatine once if that's important...

Well considering you're 6'3 I reckon you can easily get to a solid 250lbs @10%. Maybe more if you have good genetics?

Also depends on BCAAs and ECAs and stuff. Creatine isn't fully natty but as long as you don't take more than 5g it's ok.

[Hockey1123]

no offense man but if you think in order to get shredded you need to cut out carbs and fats... then I wouldnt be taking advice from you. Plus its not possible to tell someone there genetic potential without knowing factors you would never no, like their parents, years of lifting, insetrtion points... Threadisdumb/10

[OneMA2011]

no offense man but if you think in order to get shredded you need to cut out carbs and fats... then I wouldnt be taking advice from you. Plus its not possible to tell someone there genetic potential without knowing factors you would never no, like their parents, years of lifting, insetrtion points... Threadisdumb/10

Carbs spike insulin and fats are stored as fats??? They need to be gone for you to lose weight quickly.
@the rest of yo post :I can tell, I'm really good srs

[Hockey1123]

LOL im assumingg you are trolling... find me one scholarly article or scientific proof that carbs do this... Show me one natural bodybuilder that cuts out carbs or even pro for that matter.

[Hockey1123]

I mean you can loose weight by cutting carbs, but thats more because naturally you will be in a big deficit cutting out carbs. In order to cut optimaly and maintain muscle which is what i think you would want to do... then cutting out carbs is not a good idea

[kosich]

I always see these threads where people are talking about natural limits and genetic limits.


They're much higher than you think.

I am currently a high BF 220 and recomping. I can easily put on a lot of muscle just by changing up my routine and diet. Then cutting out carbs and fats to shred up.


Post ITT and I'll tell you your genetic limit srs.

In. Current weight is 153 if that matters.

[otehblasian]

in for what my genetic potential is.. lulz

[OneMA2011]

LOL im assumingg you are trolling... find me one scholarly article or scientific proof that carbs do this... Show me one natural bodybuilder that cuts out carbs or even pro for that matter.

I know a few guys who are on low/no carbs and they're ripped. Like veins and everything

I mean you can loose weight by cutting carbs, but thats more because naturally you will be in a big deficit cutting out carbs. In order to cut optimaly and maintain muscle which is what i think you would want to do... then cutting out carbs is not a good idea

carbs spike insulin, which stores fat?
What's not to get

[Sohale31]

LOL im assumingg you are trolling... find me one scholarly article or scientific proof that carbs do this... Show me one natural bodybuilder that cuts out carbs or even pro for that matter.

are you challenging him to find a study that carbs yeild an insulin spike? that wont be hard. this is a troll though

[BradCathie]

In. Currently @ approximately 12% bf but that's just a guesstimate.

[OneMA2011]

In. Current weight is 153 if that matters.

5'10. You can get a solid 200lbs @8-10%. Maybe more, depends which supplements/fish oil etc you are buying. Like pre-workouts and stuff.

in for what my genetic potential is.. lulz

5'8 185lbs shredded easily within 3-4 years. Maybe more

are you challenging him to find a study that carbs yeild an insulin spike? that wont be hard. this is a troll though

What he said. Who's trolling?

[ZackeryVon]

Hockey, you said "loose" rather than "lose" so everything you said has been discredited. Please, almighty OneMA, tell me my natty limit. I am N4L so this information will be very helpful to me.

I am 207, squat 425x6, bench 225x10 and max around 280, deadlift close to 500. I don't eat carbs or fat because I am a bodybuilder not a powerlifter and I train 3 times a day (P/P/L)

Natty limit?

[Hockey1123]

no i am challenging him to find a study that says cutting carbs out is optimal for cutting... it does cause a spike but this has minimal contribute to overall fat loss.

[ZackeryVon]

Well his rep power is significantly higher than yours, so doesn't that mean he is more knowledgeable than you? Isn't that the idea of the rep system?

[S3RB0N]

Well his rep power is significantly higher than yours, so doesn't that mean he is more knowledgeable than you? Isn't that the idea of the rep system?

Onema is right, everyone else is wrong.

I have more reps, therefore I'm right.

[OneMA2011]

In. Currently @ approximately 12% bf but that's just a guesstimate.

6'2 240lbs lean. 230lbs if you want to be shredded single digit bf.

Hockey, you said "loose" rather than "lose" so everything you said has been discredited. Please, almighty OneMA, tell me my natty limit. I am N4L so this information will be very helpful to me.
I am 207, squat 425x6, bench 225x10 and max around 280, deadlift close to 500. I don't eat carbs or fat because I am a bodybuilder not a powerlifter and I train 3 times a day (P/P/L)
Natty limit?

Hello Zackeryvon!
@5'10 you could easily hit a solid 220lbs shredded @6-8%. Maybe more depending on genetics and DEDICATION!
And you obviously have excellent dedication due to low/no fats and carbs!!! So 230 shredded

no i am challenging him to find a study that says cutting carbs out is optimal for cutting... it does cause a spike but this has minimal contribute to overall fat loss.

Find me any study that is relevant to bodybuilders please

[l2evolution]

All that carb nonsense is broscience
/thread

[OneMA2011]

Well his rep power is significantly higher than yours, so doesn't that mean he is more knowledgeable than you? Isn't that the idea of the rep system?

Onema is right, everyone else is wrong.

I have more reps, therefore I'm right.

True bodybuilders who will go far in bodybuilding^^^^^^

All that carb nonsense is broscience
/thread

Please find me a study that shows that carbs and fats won't hinder fat loss

[zakc]

In

125 at 8% to 180 at 12% in a year.

[S3RB0N]

All that carb nonsense is broscience
/thread

Rep Power: 74

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[Hockey1123]

Lol yea and the biggest guy in the gym in right because hes the biggest... I'm just saying what the truth is I really dont care if you believe me. Name one bodybuilder that cuts out carbs completely. First off anyone who thinks this guy can guess there natural potential based off the information they are giving needs to realize this is impossible.

[ZackeryVon]

Hello Zackeryvon!
@5'10 you could easily hit a solid 220lbs shredded @6-8%. Maybe more depending on genetics and DEDICATION!
And you obviously have excellent dedication due to low/no fats and carbs!!! So 230 shredded

Ty for quick respond sir. And I'm actually on 1g of Dedication every week and 50mg of hard work every day at the moment. So I will be hitting that 220 mark any day now!!!oNe!@@!

[NZninja101]

Probably like 200lb at 10% bodyfat srs. Should take several more years to get close.

[OneMA2011]

In

125 at 8% to 180 at 12% in a year.

5'10 225lbs @8% imo. Maybe more if you make use of beta alanine/amino's etc. Also casein protein for nighttime

Lol yea and the biggest guy in the gym in right because hes the biggest... I'm just saying what the truth is I really dont care if you believe me. Name one bodybuilder that cuts out carbs completely. First off anyone who thinks this guy can guess there natural potential based off the information they are giving needs to realize this is impossible.

Obviously, hence why he's the biggest in the gym.
And I can, I've done it before. I know what I'm doing

Probably like 200lb at 10% bodyfat srs. Should take several more years to get close.

6'

You can easily hit a solid 225lbs lean imho. Good supplementation and BCAAs (to prevent catabolism) will help you along the way

[otehblasian]

5'8 185lbs shredded easily within 3-4 years. Maybe more

sounds great thanks lol

(srsly, if I can achieve that then wow..)

[ZackeryVon]

Lol yea and the biggest guy in the gym in right because hes the biggest... I'm just saying what the truth is I really dont care if you believe me. Name one bodybuilder that cuts out carbs completely. First off anyone who thinks this guy can guess there natural potential based off the information they are giving needs to realize this is impossible.

Zyzz hasn't had a carb in over a year.

[Hockey1123]

lol and zyzz is doing great now;P op is clearly a troll so im over this ****:P

[OneMA2011]

sounds great thanks lol

(srsly, if I can achieve that then wow..)

Go forth and conquer young one

Zyzz hasn't had a carb in over a year.

exactly. True testimonials