this is my 1st post here, appreciate any input.
well, I did a cycle of tren about 8-9 months ago, havoc about 3-4 months ago, and started 11oxo last week at 6 caps a day, going for 40 days.
I've noticed a tender lump under my left nipple, and am curious what to do.
I have letro on hand. I am wondering if I should continue the 11oxo (so far seen great results) and run letro .5mg every other day, or discontinue 11oxo and run letro, basically just looking for some input. I am hoping I can stop the gyno, possibly reverse it since it's early but would like some input on what anyone thinks to do.
Thanks,
Jon
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Thread: 11oxo, Gyno, what to do?
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10-06-2008, 11:47 PM #1
11oxo, Gyno, what to do?
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10-06-2008, 11:56 PM #7
appreciate it bro, I'm kinda bummed about dropping the 11oxo because it was giving great results. I'm assuming it's delayed from one of my previous cycles if I were to guess.
is there anyways to continue 11oxo and running letro alongside to prevent any lumps or is it basically drop it and letro it up?
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10-06-2008, 11:59 PM #8
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It's up to you if you wanna drop the 11oxo or not, but i would, goodluck.Last edited by Problem; 10-07-2008 at 12:02 AM.
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I'm not doubting you....but are you sure the 11oxo causing real gyno. Everybody is different....but 11oxo is really mild. I am very prone to sides. I just got done running at 8 caps a day of 11oxo and I noticed almost nothing. I was getting pissed because I spent all of that money and barely noticed any difference from normal. Plus pct was a breeze. I have run tren, havoc, hdrol and superdrol before and I am kind of astonished that you would get sides from 11oxo and not tren or havoc.
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10-07-2008, 12:04 AM #12
Drop the 11-OXO immediately and get on letro.
It's more likely that this is delayed onset gyno from the earlier PH's as 11-OXO isn't much of an androgenic substance.But this is a moot point as 11-OXO will alter your test/estro equilibrium and chances are that will put a stopgap on letro's effects towards gynoAvant Research Representative
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10-07-2008, 12:27 AM #14
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Just to ease your mind a little bit....the gyno will most likely be temporary. Especially if you have letro. Just get your hands on some OTC pct and hit the letro as soon as you do. Most stores don't carry OTC serms yet, so get a bottle of animal stak or something. I highly doubt you have actually grown any breast tissue....the sore feeling and puffiness is just your cue to stop.
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I appreciate your input man, I really do. curious though, why do you doubt letro? I've seen posts and threads saying it has helped and even reversed gyno in some cases. and why do you doubt I have gyno? when I feel behind my left nipple it feels like there is a little "lump" there and is sensitive to touch.
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10-07-2008, 11:13 AM #22
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10-07-2008, 11:50 AM #24
go talk to your doctor too...don't be bashful...if he judges\refuses you for taking OTC supplements that you felt you wanted to then he is a ****ty doctor and not being objective in his treatment of his patients.
and even if he says you shouldn't be taking xyz tell him ok thanks for your professional opinion now what do I do about this problem
you are paying to see him not vice versa
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10-07-2008, 12:09 PM #25
I'm just confused and don't know what to think because I never felt my nipples before this and I don't know if there is supposed to be anything behind the nipple in the first place if I were to feel it even in someone who 100% has no gyno, or if whatever this I feel isn't supposed to be there. Ah I wish I could get this cleared up myself without having to see a doctor!
when I raise my left hand up and feel under my left nipple if there was gyno appearing would I be able to feel a lump clearly? because when I raise my left hand up, the lump I feel when my arm is down appears to not be there.
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Either way, I doubt you have real gyno. There is a bid difference between sore puffy nipples and actual tissue development. I feel like the answer is pretty clear cut and your body is telling you what you need to do. Just stop the PH, get on pct and hit the letro at a low dose for good measure.
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10-07-2008, 12:18 PM #28
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10-07-2008, 12:25 PM #29
thanks guys. I decided to drop the 11oxo as I don't want anything to progress. for my PCT I have 6oxo I will start taking today. as for the letro, I was thinking of dosing it .5mg-1mg, but on my dropper there aren't any markings for the mgs so I'm making an estimated guess, if the dropper is 2.5mg/ml I'm gonna fill the dropper up about a third of the way. anybody have input?
once again, thanks to all. I have 3 bottles of 11oxo I will save for future use as I will purchase 1 more and run my originally planned 6 pills a day for 40 days in the future. kinda bummed because I was noticing some changes!
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10-07-2008, 12:27 PM #30
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