Ronnie disses Phil and today's pros

[trulyhuge1]

The depth of competitors is weak but there are still a few stand out guys. Ronnie shouldnt diss anyones training style really,look what his did to him

Not really about the training style......he trained balls to the wall for YEARS! It catches up to ya. Simple as that.

[boyoboyo]

totally! look at dennis james aswell! tony freeman, troy A., and many more. Ronnies mass monster training style got the better of him in the end (it's sad). he has an amazing physique from 98-01. after that, doooown hill when the size started to really increase.

with all due respect those for names won 1 olympia between them ronnie won 8, down the line noone will remember any of them bar dexter....
and lets be honest dennis james had/has a horrible midsection ever since he unsuccessfully tried to play the mass monster game.

[ismashhoes]

I wonder what Phil did to piss off the Big Nasty?

[jd2967]

The amount of men in this thread saying he shouldn't say things like that is disgusting. They all compete to be the best, to be better than every other competitor. That quote about "being a victor without victims" was completely retarded. He is the BEST THAT EVER WAS in the sport this sub-forum is dedicated to, he can judge any man that steps on the Olympia stage as he pleases.

[FlabbyAndSick]

'01 onwards. Kevin and Chris were at the end of their careers and Shawn had stopped competing.

Comprehende?

You said "There's more wow factor today than there was from the early 2000's to 2010" and that the "Ronnie vs Jay years were a joke"

Early 2000's:
2001 Jay got second. Kevin 3rd, Shawn 4th, Chris 5th. Ronnie captured his 4th title.
2002 Jay did not compete. Kevin 2nd, Chris 3rd. Ronnie captured his 5th title.

I don't see the joke. More of a wow factor in 2001 and 2002 than today, and if I include 2000 as part of the "early 2000's" there's even more of a wow factor. Ronnie beat legends during their prime for more than half his titles. His competition > today's competition.

2003 Kevin placed 6th and 2004 Cormier placed 7th. Not Ronnie's fault they could no longer compete with him. Their overall physiques however could compete with today's competition.

¿Comprende?

[Kiwi_]

I wonder what Phil did to piss off the Big Nasty?

Ronnie was just keeping it real, he probably gets along fine with Heath.

[karlball]

Ronnie crushes everyone....

LOL his gut sure crushes everyone !!
Arnold Schwarzenegger is,was and always will be the greatest bodybuilder of all time - period !

[SLiX]

2006 holland GP










goats gonna goat

[flahexer]

I don't get how Jay has so extremely little detail on his arms when having a contest bodyfat level. Rons arms are abusing Jay in the FDB.

[TTimmerman]

2006 holland GP


goats gonna goat

what the actual **** at his side leg... wtf

[Ajthemeso]

2006 holland GP










goats gonna goat

ronnie...my body is ready. yes homo.

[greenmile66]

what the actual **** at his side leg... wtf

THIS, coleman is like do these guys even squat?

[Loctus]

Bwahhahahahhahahha wait wait wait a minute... Those pics are from the 2006 GP... Which means that Cutler beat Coleman there. LOLOLOLOLOL. Well done, IFBB, well done

[TTimmerman]

Bwahhahahahhahahha wait wait wait a minute... Those pics are from the 2006 GP... Which means that Cutler beat Coleman there. LOLOLOLOLOL. Well done, IFBB, well done

was the week after the O i think... a copy pasta GP like the sheru classic atm

[mbamboocha112]

Ronnie GOAT .there is no bodybuilder than can beat him in his prime.Simple fact.Is that Hide next to them?lookin good

[flahexer]

You said "There's more wow factor today than there was from the early 2000's to 2010" and that the "Ronnie vs Jay years were a joke"

Early 2000's:
2001 Jay got second. Kevin 3rd, Shawn 4th, Chris 5th. Ronnie captured his 4th title.
2002 Jay did not compete. Kevin 2nd, Chris 3rd. Ronnie captured his 5th title.

I don't see the joke. More of a wow factor in 2001 and 2002 than today, and if I include 2000 as part of the "early 2000's" there's even more of a wow factor. Ronnie beat legends during their prime for more than half his titles. His competition > today's competition.

2003 Kevin placed 6th and 2004 Cormier placed 7th. Not Ronnie's fault they could no longer compete with him. Their overall physiques however could compete with today's competition.

¿Comprende?

I don't see how 2002 is a "Ronnie vs. Jay" year, if Jay wasn't competing. Also you said it yourself: Kevin 2003 and Cormier 2004 were already past their prime, so no real competition there either.

Nobody is saying Ronnie isn't the GOAT, actually quite the opposite: He is indeed the GOAT, plus was pretty unrivaled during his Olympia reign, particularly from 2001 on.

Thus: Yeah, the "Ronnie vs. Jay" years were a joke.

[Iceman1981]

Ok guys, I did a little searching and the OP is right, but it's an interview from MuscleMag I believe. Here is a pic.

MuscleMag just posted the interview of Ronnie on their website: http://www.musclemag.com/culture/ron.../#.UOH1A-TLSSo

“Have you seen some of them train?” asks Ronnie when referring to the current crop of pro bodybuilders. “I would’ve destroyed Phil Heath in my day. He can’t compare to what I was. Bodybuilders of today aren’t like the bodybuilders of our day. Physiques were a lot better in our time. This era coming up here, I’m not impressed with nobody."

“You’ve got Phil Heath and Kai Greene and they just all seem kind of average to me. There’s nothing that’s ‘Wow’ about their physiques. Not the shape, not the symmetry. Nothing blows me away about these guys.”

Metroflex’s Dobson agrees. While he feels that Heath lives up to his nickname (The Gift) and might be one of the most genetically gifted athletes to ever put on a pair of posing trunks, Brian feels that the whole package — the size, the intensity — pales in comparison to Coleman’s, whose competition weight was 15 pounds heavier than Heath’s offseason weight.

“When you look at pictures of Ronnie and then look at some of the top guys now, you can’t comprehend how much bigger he was than these guys,” says Brian. “Phil Heath’s whole shoulder structure would fit within the span of Ronnie’s pecs. Everything on Ronnie is just bigger. If they competed at the same time, Phil Heath would’ve looked like a little boy next to him.”

“I’d rank him (Ronnie)as number one of all time. I can’t even believe anyone wouldn’t have him as number one,” says Brian. “Arnold won Mr. Olympia seven times when there were eight bodybuilders in the whole world.”

[Larfleeze]

Ronnie's leg in that side chest is just ridiculous..

[Groggery]

So from that interview this is what i get:

1. Ronnie needs to flatter himself just a tad less and stop talking utter bull**** about other athletes.
2. Dobson needs to get off his nuts.

[chuntbaby]

2006 holland GP





goats gonna goat

the real question is WTF happened to HIDE? haha he looks WAY better there

[BigNasty99]

I read the article, and what Ronnie said is the truth and people need to accept it. I keep hearing about all these "next Ronnie" guys and we all know its never gonna happen. DEFINITELY not Phil! Victor would have been a great successor to Ronnie's reign but bad luck put an end to that unfortunately.

For those of us who follow Ronnie we know that Ronnie has never been afraid to speak his mind, he's not controversial but has always thrown in digs here and there over the years in a playful way. He's said Jay has an ugly physique, Dexter's a "little guy", Markus Ruhl's "fat albert" etc. Bodybuilding's not a vast enough sport to be politically correct in interviews. In the NFL if somebody made these comments it'd be breaking news on ESPN sadly enough.

[patroclus32]

Coleman was the best because of genetics but also because he trained harder than any bodybuilder I've ever seen. His DVD "Unbelievable" came out over ten years ago, but we haven't seen a pro's training come even close to that since then. Where are the vids now of pros doing 200lb db press, front squat 495 for 10, 800lb deadlifts and 500lb bent rows? I can only think of a handful of pros that really train hard. Evan, Ben Pakulski, and Kai (sometimes) come to mind but they are not doing Ronnie numbers. I don't think people give Coleman enough credit sometimes for the way he pushed himself in the gym. He trained like an animal.

[Groggery]

I don't think people give Coleman enough credit sometimes for the way he pushed himself in the gym. He trained like an animal.

So by that logic powerlifters are pushing themselves even further? Numbers translate into intensity now?

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but this new year's eve i've decided to have zero tolerance for idiocy.

[flangmasterj]

It's funny. That article means absolutely jack ****. Phil and Kai's training styles, intensity and physiques are winning them shows in this era.

Gotta stay relevant though I guess aye Ron.

[trulyhuge1]

It's funny. That article means absolutely jack ****. Phil and Kai's training styles, intensity and physiques are winning them shows in this era.

Gotta stay relevant though I guess aye Ron.

Not a big Ronnie fan I assume?

[Groggery]

Not a big Ronnie fan I assume?

You can respect the physique and still call him out on his bull****.

[trulyhuge1]

You can respect the physique and still call him out on his bull****.

I am a huge Phil fan but I agree......Ronnie would have mopped the floor with him.

[flangmasterj]

Not a big Ronnie fan I assume?

Everyone is a fan of Ronnie.

[ROMMYromboid]

It's funny. That article means absolutely jack ****. Phil and Kai's training styles, intensity and physiques are winning them shows in this era.

Gotta stay relevant though I guess aye Ron.

They are winning shows in this ERA but they are less likely to have won shows in Colemans ERA. The things Ronnie said were true- FACT Ronnie had more size and equal if not better conditioning than any of the current line up.

The only one I can see potentially challenging this is CEDRIC who has that WOW factor but in a different way from Coleman.

[realistromeo]

In all honesty Ronnie speaks the truth, as of right now no one can touch what Ronnie was, but there is still time, these young cats are either younger or the same age when Ronnie won his first Olympia. As far as inhuman muscle, Kai is on that summit, he closely represents what made Coleman so great, size/detail/conditioning.. not there yet but posseses such traits, Phil is another beast completely, maybe no one will ever top coleman.. but that doesnt take anything away from current competitors or their accomplishments.

Unlike other sport greats where you are more often that not defined by the competition in your era, you can translate greatness in bodybuilding.. and Coleman transcends.