ive been squatting for many years now and it is without doubt the most taxing and beneficial on your bodymass . i have in the last three or four years considerably built up some thigh size and shape though my calfs are still weak .
question is i have developed this large egg size lump on my lower neck trap area resulting from pretty heavy and prolonged squatting which is very sore and painful after squatting and aleviates after 48 hours or so . my training partner uses a padding on the bar but i dont woos out. i know its not helping me but i feel it unbalances the bar anf feel its too high up my neck and i feel more stable across the trap area.
everyone says just build up your trap area and you will be fine, but ive been training donkeys years and big as im going to ever get as ive always stayed natural .
any of you suffer the same and do you have any tips you could pass on to help matters while squatting more comfortably .
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05-01-2011, 04:15 AM #1
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do you all squat with padded bar or not
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Holy hell, strong BF%. Why are you red? Repped to try and help. People on this site who actually lift should not be red, regardless of their mannerisms.
I dislike the padded bar for the same reason as you, it makes the bar ride weird and seem unbalanced. If it is riding on your spine, are you sure you are squaring your traps and pulling your shoulders back, not forward/down, in order to form a "shelf"?Last edited by styken; 05-01-2011 at 04:23 AM. Reason: First time I ever put someone from Red to Green! feelsgoodman
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This is not a bad idea either. I had a lot of trouble with pain from my regular squat form, switched over to front squats (and ate the crow at having to ditch so much weight, front squats you must go lighter on), then built up to heavier weight on my back squats again.
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05-01-2011, 05:46 AM #7
I use a towel (folded in half). It is just enough to keep my neck pain at bay. I figure better to use it and squat than not use it, and not be able to squat. For me, it does not change the way I hold the bar, or the way it sits upon my shoulders.
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After years and years of squatting with the pussy pad, I've finally weaned myself off in the last several months or so. Now that I'm confident I can do it, I like squatting much better without it. Really, all that time I just didn't have the bar in the exactly "right" place.
Rowyn gets "back callous" from squatting, lol. I haven't gotten this yet, but if and when I do, I'll consider it a badge of honor and sport it proudly.Sheriff John Brown always hated me
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OP you need the hold the bar much lower. Your grip should be as close as possible to ensure that your back is tight to allow the bar to rest on your rear delts. Right now, you are using the high bar position.
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(can't embed yet) Watch when he talks about the low bar position.Only peons care about something as insignificant as reps on an internet forum. Come at me
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I'd like to see a video of your squat. From this I'd say it looks like you're bar position is probably too high and your upper back isn't bulled back and tight so the bar rests on your spine instead of muscle. But there's no way to know for sure without seeing you squat.
But no I never squat with the pad. It seems like it's make the weight unstable.Qualifying for long drive contest with 328 yard drive
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I won't claim to be any kind of authority when it comes to squats . . . lots of folks here who are knowledgeable and many have already given some advice--you'll gets lots more feedback I'm sure. Like Bigtallox said, if you post a video that would really help you get some great advice if corrections are needed.
But I agree that front squats are a good option to give yourself a break from that inflammation . . . that and Zercher Squats are awesome as well as something different(combine those with Bulgarian Split Squats and your legs will hate you for days on end).*MFC Elder Statesmen Cabinet Crew*
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Yo forget about the bar, go see a doc, a bump on the vertebrae like that doesn't look normal man.
Also I had a friend who had a lump like that on his upper spine when he was younger and now he has a huge lump on his back and he walks bend over. He said it is very painful.
I say go see a doc man, seriously.On the list for Bannukah
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I only use the pad when I want to squat double my usual amount. You know how much easier it makes it on your "legs" when you have that pad on your shoulders. Sometimes I add two pads, thus allowing me to squat nearly 4x my regular weight.
Additionally, I will add a pillow to my preacher curls, allowing me to curl nearly 200 lbs.If you poke a bear in the eye, expect a bear like response.
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05-01-2011, 11:27 AM #25
Does using pads or gloves take away from how much weight you can lift?
I wear gloves when I lift. I don't want my hands tore up because I need my hands and fingers for carrying and shooting my rifle at the Taliban. I would definitely use a pad on the bar for doing squats so that my shoulders aren't trashed when I have to walk multiple kilometers wearing body armor while hunting for the Taliban. Not everyone who wears gloves or uses pads is a pussy.Every drop of blood
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[QUOTE=BCo1SG;673710361]Does using pads or gloves take away from how much weight you can lift?
I wear gloves when I lift. I don't want my hands tore up because I need my hands and fingers for carrying and shooting my rifle at the Taliban. I would definitely use a pad on the bar for doing squats so that my shoulders aren't trashed when I have to walk multiple kilometers wearing body armor while hunting for the Taliban. Not everyone who wears gloves or uses pads is a pussy.[/QUOTE
I don't anyone yet who developed calluses on their finger tips from not wearing gloves (especially since lifting gloves are fingerless) and a callus on the shoulders from squating?
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