Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Top Reagan Official, Blasts Official 9/11 Story

[voodoo101]

Dr. Roberts was an Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under President Ronald Reagan, and an editor of the Wall Street Journal and the National Review. He has held the William E. Simon Chair for Economic Policy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies at Georgetown University, and is a Distinguished Fellow at the Cato Institute and a Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution. In 1987 the French government inducted him into the Legion of Honor.


http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle14566.htm
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What we know and don’t know about 9/11

By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts



08/16/06 "Information Clearing House" -- -- I received a number of intelligent responses from readers of my August 14 column, “Gullible Americans,” The letters deserve a reply. Moreover, some contain important points that should be shared with a wider audience. Pundits such as myself are not the only people who have interesting things to say. Considering the number of letters and the time it would require to respond individually, I am replying instead in this column.

Most readers from whom I heard understand the difference between loyalty to country and loyalty to a government. They understand that to support a political party or a government that is destroying the US Constitution and America’s reputation in the world is, in fact, an act of treason. Therefore, I did not have to read the usual drivel about how doubting “our government” is un-American.

Among the issues raised are:

How could the complicity of the US government, or some part of it, in the events of 9/11 be kept a secret? For the most part, this question comes from Americans who believe the government must have been, to some extent, complicit in the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon.

How can we differentiate between the real facts, the 9/11 Commission’s reporting of the facts, and “conspiracy theories”?

What about the role of suicide flyers led by M. Atta?

What about the Popular Mechanics article and the TV documentary that debunk the skeptics and support the official explanation of 9/11?

What about the role of the US media in propagandizing Americans with the official explanation instead of examining the explanation, especially with regard to such truncated hatchet-job interviews with 9/11 skeptics such as the hatchet jobs presided over by Donny Deutsch on CNBC and by neocon Tucker Carlson on MSNBC?

Why are so many Americans hostile to holding the Bush regime accountable for its obvious and documented lies, lies that have misled America to war and gratuitously slaughtered and maimed tens of thousands of people, including our own troops?

I will begin by stating what we know to be a solid incontrovertible scientific fact.

We know that it is strictly impossible for any building, much less steel columned buildings, to “pancake” at free fall speed. Therefore, it is a non-controversial fact that the official explanation of the collapse of the WTC buildings is false.

We also know for a fact that the Air Force somehow inexplicably failed to intercept the alleged hijacked airliners despite the fact that the Air Force can launch jet fighters to 29,000 feet in 2.5 minutes. We also know that the two co-chairmen of the 9/11 Commission have just written a book that reveals that the US military lied to the Commission about its failure to intercept the hijacked airliners.

There are various explanations for this second fact. The military could have lied to cover up complicity or to cover-up its incompetence. However, no investigation has been made to ascertain the true explanation for the failure.

This leaves us with the incontrovertible fact that buildings cannot “pancake” at free fall speeds.

The only explanation known to science for the free fall collapse of a building, especially into its own footprint, is engineered demolition, which removes the supports for each floor of the building at split second intervals so that the debris from above meets no resistance on its fall. To call this explanation a “conspiracy theory” is to display the utmost total ignorance. Any physicist or engineer who maintains that buildings can “pancake” at free fall speed has obviously been bought and paid for or is a total incompetent fool.

The WTC buildings are known to have collapsed at free fall speed into their own footprints.

This fact does not tell us who is responsible or what purpose was served.

Since the damning incontrovertible fact has not been investigated, speculation and “conspiracy theories” have filled the void. Some of the speculation is based on circumstantial evidence and is plausible. Other of the speculation is untenable, and it is used to protect the official explanation by branding all skeptics “conspiracy theorists.” I would not be surprised if some of the most far-out “conspiracy theories” consist, in fact, of disinformation put out by elements in the government to discredit all skeptics. But I do not know this to be the case.

How could government complicity be kept a secret? It can be kept a secret, because so many Americans are scientifically ignorant and emotionally weak. They are incapable of realizing the contradiction in the government’s claim that the WTC buildings “pancaked” at free fall speed, and they are emotionally incapable of confronting the evil of the Bush regime. Many Christians think that Bush is “a man of God” who is protecting American morality from homosexuals and abortionists. Others who wear their patriotism on their sleeves think Bush is standing up for America and innocent Israel, and that they must not let anti-American anti-war protesters cause America to lose another war and repeat the Vietnam experience. Americans are both ignorant and full of resentments against the left. This makes them easily manipulated by the neoconservatives who dominate the Bush regime and the media.

Also, many anti-war and anti-Bush online sites are scared of being called “crazy conspiracy kooks.” They protect their sites by staying away from the 9/11 issue, just as so many Americans are scared to death of being called “anti-semitic” and thereby do not dare criticize Israel no matter the heinous war crimes that state routinely commits. Of all the online subscribers to my column, only vdare.com and NewsMax had the courage to post my column. Realizing that even antiwar sites would serve as de facto gatekeepers for the neocons, I offered the column to ICH, whose editor cannot be intimidated.

The Popular Mechanics article and the TV documentary are obviously false since they both endorse the official explanation that the WTC buildings “pancaked” at free fall speed, an obvious scientific impossibility. Whether the false reporting by Popular Mechanics and television are due to incompetence or to complicity in a government cover-up, I do not know.

We know nothing about alleged suicide flyers led by M. Atta except what the government has told us, a government that has lied to us about everything else, such as Iraq’s alleged WMD and alleged links to Osama bin Laden, and Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program, a program for which the International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors cannot find evidence.

According to reports, the BBC has found 6 of the alleged suicide hijackers alive and well in their home countries. I do not know if the report is true, but I do know that the report has been ignored and there has been no investigation. Both the US government and the US media have turned a blind eye. We have no way of knowing if Atta and his named accomplices hijacked the planes, or, if they did, whether they were dupes of intelligent services that pretended to be a terrorist cell and organized the cover for the engineered demolition.

The fact that we do not know any of these things, and the fact that the 9/11 Commission co-chairmen now tell us that their report is flawed, are good indications that we have no documented information of who was behind the plot, why it occurred, or how it operated.

With regard to the role of the US media, if it is indeed a media rather than a propaganda ministry, one reader cited remarks by the distinguished investigative reporter, John Pilger, made in an address at Columbia University on 14 April 2006:

“During the Cold War, a group of Russian journalists toured the United States. On the final day of their visit, they were asked by their hosts for their impressions. ‘I have to tell you,’ said their spokesman, ‘that we were astonished to find after reading all the newspapers and watching TV, that all the opinions on all the vital issues were by and large, the same. To get that result in our country, we imprison people, we tear out their fingernails. Here, you don’t have that. What’s the secret? How do you do it?’”

This quote is probably apocryphal, but it is well used to make a valid point. The answer to the Russian’s question is that during the cold war the American public viewed the Soviet Union as a dangerous adversary and were amenable to reports to that effect. The fact that the Soviets were a potentially dangerous adversary made Americans blind to the roles of the US military-industrial complex, which benefitted financially from cultivating the adversary relationship, and the US government, which benefitted politically from cultivating the adversary relationship, in keeping the adversarial relationship alive.

The uniformity of the US media has become much more complete since the days of the cold war. During the 1990s, the US government permitted an unconscionable concentration of print and broadcast media that terminated the independence of the media. Today the US media is owned by 5 giant companies in which pro-Zionist Jews have disproportionate influence. More importantly, the values of the conglomerates reside in the broadcast licenses, which are granted by the government, and the corporations are run by corporate executives--not by journalists--whose eyes are on advertising revenues and the avoidance of controversy that might produce boycotts or upset advertisers and subscribers. Americans who rely on the totally corrupt corporate media have no idea what is happening anywhere on earth, much less at home.

Despite the dark days in which we live, some readers find optimism in recent polls that show more than one-third of the US public now disbelieve the official account of 9/11 despite the Bush regime’s propaganda faithfully trumpeted by the US media. Bush’s own rock-bottom polls show that Americans, like the Russians of the Soviet era, can read between the lines of the propagandistic US media. Many Americans can still spot a liar and a cheat when they see one.

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.



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[Bushmaster]

[Bushmaster]

[voodoo101]

Still no answer to "is destruction of evidence in a crime scene a felony?" Your fat ass is getting a hemorrhoid avoiding that one.

On your video, once again you are invoking hasbarat tactic number 13, reasoning backwards, Alice in Wonderland logic.

25 Rules of Disinformation:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=143484773

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

You keep saying if it didn't sound exactly like another demolition, it was not a demolition, even though:

- there was a rapid explosion sequence, which generated shock waves strong enough to shatter windows more than a football field away from the towers.







And there WERE loud demolition explosions:


All this is in addition to the fact that RDX can be formulated for different sound characteristics. But those blown out windows tell the story.

From your "not the right sounds" premise you are attempting to deduce that therefore a physically impossible, as Dr. Roberts says, "pancake" collapse can happen, and that 20-ton assemblies of steel can be exploded out laterally at 70 MPH for two football fields, and all the rest of the other evidence must be wrong. That's Alice in Wonderland logic.

The video you post is pretty good, notwithstanding the sarcasm. What Gage explains fits well with Jim Hoffman's Hypothetical Blasting Scenario (below), which describes two stages. 1. the thermite incendiary attacking the steelwork and melting it at key points, and 2. more conventional explosives in a banana peel style demolition, like below, where you see the debris blown outward and away from the base. Just like you see in the towers.



Contrary to the Popular Mechanics "debunk" in which they say thermite is not used in demolitions, thermite HAS been used. In fact it was reported right in Popular Mechanics!

Popular Mechanics Ignores Its Own Historical Records of Thermite Demolition: Destruction of Skyride Towers, Reichstag Dome Set Incendiary Precedent


How thermite melts steel:

A Hypothetical Blasting Scenario: A Plausible Theory Explaining the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers Using Aluminothermic Incendiaries and Explosives with Wireless Ignition Means

by Jim Hoffman

Introduction

Most science-based investigators of the events of 9/11/2001 are reluctant to develop detailed hypotheses or conjectures for obvious reasons: to speculate about unknown events in a criminal conspiracy is to invite the label of "conspiracy theorist" with its weight of discrediting associations, unless, of course, one is parroting the speculations of the officially endorsed account.

Never mind that NIST explains WTC7's destruction as the first-ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise building with the refreshingly novel failure mechanism -- supported by no physical evidence whatsoever -- that thermally induced expansion of a huge beam caused it to break loose of its connections and crash down, taking the rest of the skyscraper with it. It is the skeptics of this fairy tale that New York Times reporter Eric Lipton calls conspiracy theorists.

The chief apologists for the official story seem to want it both ways. On the one hand, they stigmatize anyone who questions the official version of events as a "conspiracy theorist". On the other, they fault the same intellectual dissidents for not articulating a detailed theory of the crime.

Here, then, is such a scenario -- in much more detail than suggestions I have previously made to answer frequently asked questions -- that I hope will be useful to other investigators working to solve the horrific crime of '9/11'.

Preamble

The present scenario is a detailed hypothetical account of the method by which each of the Twin Towers was totally destroyed. Although the visible pattern of destruction of the North and South Towers differ in details, they both fit the same general description: The block above the crash zone starts to move, accompanied almost immediately by dust ejections, then disappears into the exploding dust cloud, which progresses down the vertical axis of the Tower's intact portion leaving nothing standing but portions of the core, which then falls apart. The similarities in the patterns of destruction, as well as the nearly identical structures of the Towers themselves, suggests that essentially the same method was used to destroy each Tower, with adjustments of that method to account for the differences in the plane crashes. The scenario is described for the general case of either Tower. It postulates that the plane crashes were planned and executed with some degree of precision, using their automated flight control systems, and the adjustments in the demolition method planned accordingly.

As noted in the summary of the aluminothermics evidence timeline, there is direct evidence for two broad types of thermitic pyrotechnics in the destruction of the Twin Towers:

-Incendiaries, consisting of thermate or thermate possibly with additives such as barium nitrate
-Explosives, consisting of aluminothermic nanocomposites including compounds rich in silicon, carbon, and hydrogen to enhance blast pressure

The scenario reflects this dichotomy in postulating that two distinct stages comprised the demolition of each Tower: a first stage in which strategically-placed thermitic incendiaries attack steelwork while the Tower is still standing, and a second stage in which widely distributed thermitic explosives shatter the Tower from top to bottom.

Method Overview

The destruction of each of the Twin Towers is accomplished by an almost identical overall sequence, consisting of two stages -- a slow first stage, in which key portions of the steelwork are melted and corroded, and a rapid second stage, in which key structures are broken, and the entire Tower is systematically pulverized from the crash zones down. The time T-0 marks the onset of Stage 2.

Stage: 1: Steelwork Thermal/Corrosive Attack Stage 2: Steelwork Knocking and Progressive Distributed Blasting

material: aluminothermic incendiaries enhanced with sulfur aluminothermic nanocomposite explosives including silicon, carbon, hydrogen

application: as coatings applied directly to steelwork as fire-protected kicker charges in close proximity to core steelwork around the crash zone


Pyrotechnics Features

The pyrotechnics are of three types, all based on aluminothermic reactions: an incendiary used in the Stage 1, and two types of explosives used in Stage 2:

Thermate incendiary coating compound: A mixture of aluminum powder, iron oxide powder, sulfur and other additives in a binder. Applied in a liquid form like paint, it dries to form durable coating that requires a high-temperature igniter to start the reaction by heating a spot to the 2,200ºC ignition temperature.

Nanothermite kicker charge: A large forceful charge with relatively low brisance based on a nano-thermite explosive that is stable up to a very high temperature and pressure, such as supplied by a built-in detonator. A protective insulating capsule is shaped like a fire-extinguisher bottle.

Aluminothermic nanocomposite sheet: A thin layer of a nanocomposite aluminothermic material laminated onto a thin brittle slab of iron oxides and hydroxides. The material deflagrates (burns gradually) when elevated to 430ºC, but detonates with high brisance only when extremely high temperature and pressure, such as provided by a micro-detonator, is applied to any part of its surface.

Because these pyrotechnics are energy-dense, have very specific conditions of ignition and detonation, and leave residues composed of the same elements as building parts; they are well suited to the covert demolition of the Twin Towers. Surprising to most people given popular conceptions about explosives, the energetic materials' characteristics allow them to be deployed throughout the crash zones without risk of premature detonations.

The incendiary coatings are unlikely to be ignited by the jetliner crashes because their ignition threshold temperature is so high. But in the event that some are, they will blend in with the hydrocarbon fires.

The kicker charges have very specific detonation conditions unlikely to be achieved even by direct impacts of jetliner parts, let alone office fires, and are further protected by encapsulation.

Without the very rapid pulse of extreme temperature and pressure required to trigger detonation, the nanocomposite sheets will deflagrate on ignition, and do so slowly enough to appear to burn like office furnishings.

Control Architecture

Ignition of the incendiaries and detonation of the explosives is controlled through a wireless network using RF repeaters on every floor of the Towers having pyrotechnics.

Each of the Stage-2 pyrotechnics units -- the kicker charges and explosive sheets -- has an integrated wireless detonator card that includes a 2-channel RF receiver, an accelerometer, logic, dual wafer batteries, and a micro-detonator. The card is cemented onto the surface of the pyrotechnic's thermitic material so that the detonator is in contact with the material.

The detonator cards are programmed to respond only to RF signals on the network's broadcast frequencies that have specific codes. The cards are manufactured in batches of cards with identical codes, where each batch has a unique code and is destined for a specific floor of one of the Towers.

Of a detonator card's two channels, one provides the arm signal, and the other provides a detonation signal. Once the arm signal has been received, the detonator will be triggered by either of two events: rapid acceleration detected by the accelerometer, or receipt of the detonation signal.

Equipment Installation

The scenario allows all of the equipment installation to be disguised so that the very workers doing the installation work are oblivious to the fact that they are installing demolition equipment....
...MORE http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/t..._scenario.html

Military Officers for 9/11 Truth;
http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Firefighters for 911 Truth
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

9/11: Venturing a Plausible Theory of the Crime:
http://busharchives.org/steve.html

[Bushmaster]

Still no answer to "is destruction of evidence in a crime scene a felony?" Your fat ass is getting a hemorrhoid avoiding that one.

I told you in this post but you ignored it..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post857780423

If you think a crime has been committed, take your evidence (which, btw you're adamant that you have) to a judge and prosecutor, lay it out to them, get your subpoena and do something about it. I'm not the one you need to convince brah. So whats stopping you? Don't you have evidence? Don't you have expert testimony with AE911?

I really hate to think that someone 54 years old doesn't know that that's is how the world works.. Because you're never going to accomplish ANY-THING online lol.

- there was a rapid explosion sequence, which generated shock waves strong enough to shatter windows more than a football field away from the towers

-And there WERE loud demolition explosions:

Not according to Richard Gage in the video above.

"You would NOT use explosives which would give away your project" were his exact words... until he spun around and admitted "You would have to use REALLY INTENSE explosions" ... only to spin around yet again and say "You would have to use Thermate which is silent, because obviously you wouldn't want a whole bunch of explosions to be heard..."

Hell I'm just quoting brah... Those were Richard Gage's words, not mine. And I explained that to you already but you're too fuking stupid to see it lol. Seems to me as if he's the one you should be arguing with and trying to convince, no?

You keep saying if it didn't sound exactly like another demolition, it was not a demolition, even though:

Lol I never said that. See above.

In before another wall of C&P crap.

[OhsoClutch]

The real problem is where do we go from here, us aware'd brahs. We need to focus on what will gain the masses; one clear enemy.



I think it starts at the Fed. The bankers who own this country aren't going down without a fight and its a bit more complicated than just the federal reserve but I think their the easiest to expose to the public. It'll be easy to paint them as the evil old 100 year old private bank thats raping our money.


Start at the Fed. EndtheFed

[Bushmaster]

The real problem is where do we go from here, us aware'd brahs.

I hear arguing on the internet will bring you solid results brah..

[Bushmaster]

I ignored it because that's not an answer, you hasbarat *******. "Go tell it to the cops" does not answer the question, do YOU acknowledge that a crime has been committed with the felony destruction of 99.5% of the tower steel, and aircraft debris at all sites including the Pentagon on 9/11? You would love us to get off the Internet, makes your job easier. But knowledge is power and that is how the brahs are waking up since you won't exactly see the discussion on Chris Mathews. Answer the question fat body.

Ok, so knowlege is power.. Congrats, I'm happy for you. Too bad you cowards won't do anything with it other than woof about it on the internet lol. As to whether or not I think its a crime that teh eeeevil juze or whoever took the debris, I don't really give a sht. Planes hit the WTC and Pentagon and we know who was responsible. /discussion. I have no idea why the hell you're trying so hard to convince me, yet run and hide at the very thought of actually doing something with all this "evidence" that you've accumulated.

Oh, btw.. did you hear Richard Gage say no explosives/explosions at the WTC?

Tsk tsk... pretty sad when one of the ringleaders of your little movement can't keep his story straight lol.

In before another wall of C&P crap.

[Bushmaster]

I ignored it because that's not an answer, you hasbarat *******. "Go tell it to the cops" does not answer the question, do YOU acknowledge that a crime has been committed with the felony destruction of 99.5% of the tower steel, and aircraft debris at all sites including the Pentagon on 9/11? You would love us to get off the Internet, makes your job easier.

Serious question now...

Do you ever see a point in time when you actually DO get off the internet and do something with all your evidence? Do you even understand the difference in reality and online?? It's been over ten years brah, and not one single finger has been lifted for anything. In fact you just told me that "Go tell it to the cops was not an answer" when I suggested you take your case to a judge and prosecutor.. Is there any reason for that?? Don't you want results? Justice?

Not gonna happen online brah...

[Bushmaster]

From your wall 'O crap..

The WTC buildings are known to have collapsed at free fall speed

No they're not. And nobody but truthers have ever said they were.

brb making up bullsht and then arguing about it lol.

[voodoo101]

Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
Still no answer to "is destruction of evidence in a crime scene a felony?" Your fat ass is getting a hemorrhoid avoiding that one.

I told you in this post but you ignored it..

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post857780423

If you think a crime has been committed, take your evidence (which, btw you're adamant that you have) to a judge and prosecutor, lay it out to them, get your subpoena and do something about it. I'm not the one you need to convince brah. So whats stopping you? Don't you have evidence? Don't you have expert testimony with AE911?
...

I ignored it because that's not an answer, you hasbarat *******. "Go tell it to the cops" does not answer the question, do YOU acknowledge that a crime has been committed with the felony destruction of 99.5% of the tower steel, and aircraft debris at all sites including the Pentagon on 9/11? You would love us to get off the Internet, makes your job easier. But knowledge is power and that is how the brahs are waking up since you won't exactly see the discussion on Chris Mathews. Answer the question fat body.

Jim Hoffman's Hypothetical Blasting Scenario (below), demolition occurred in two stages. 1. the thermite incendiary attacking the steelwork and melting it at key points, and 2. more conventional explosives in a banana peel style demolition, like below, where you see the debris blown outward and away from the base. Just like you see in the towers.



Contrary to the Popular Mechanics "debunk" saying thermite is not used in demolitions, thermite HAS been used. In fact it was reported right in Popular Mechanics!

Popular Mechanics Ignores Its Own Historical Records of Thermite Demolition: Destruction of Skyride Towers, Reichstag Dome Set Incendiary Precedent


How thermite melts steel:

A Hypothetical Blasting Scenario: A Plausible Theory Explaining the Controlled Demolition of the Twin Towers Using Aluminothermic Incendiaries and Explosives with Wireless Ignition Means

by Jim Hoffman

Introduction

Most science-based investigators of the events of 9/11/2001 are reluctant to develop detailed hypotheses or conjectures for obvious reasons: to speculate about unknown events in a criminal conspiracy is to invite the label of "conspiracy theorist" with its weight of discrediting associations, unless, of course, one is parroting the speculations of the officially endorsed account.

Never mind that NIST explains WTC7's destruction as the first-ever fire-induced collapse of a steel-frame high-rise building with the refreshingly novel failure mechanism -- supported by no physical evidence whatsoever -- that thermally induced expansion of a huge beam caused it to break loose of its connections and crash down, taking the rest of the skyscraper with it. It is the skeptics of this fairy tale that New York Times reporter Eric Lipton calls conspiracy theorists.

The chief apologists for the official story seem to want it both ways. On the one hand, they stigmatize anyone who questions the official version of events as a "conspiracy theorist". On the other, they fault the same intellectual dissidents for not articulating a detailed theory of the crime.

Here, then, is such a scenario -- in much more detail than suggestions I have previously made to answer frequently asked questions -- that I hope will be useful to other investigators working to solve the horrific crime of '9/11'.

Preamble

The present scenario is a detailed hypothetical account of the method by which each of the Twin Towers was totally destroyed. Although the visible pattern of destruction of the North and South Towers differ in details, they both fit the same general description: The block above the crash zone starts to move, accompanied almost immediately by dust ejections, then disappears into the exploding dust cloud, which progresses down the vertical axis of the Tower's intact portion leaving nothing standing but portions of the core, which then falls apart. The similarities in the patterns of destruction, as well as the nearly identical structures of the Towers themselves, suggests that essentially the same method was used to destroy each Tower, with adjustments of that method to account for the differences in the plane crashes. The scenario is described for the general case of either Tower. It postulates that the plane crashes were planned and executed with some degree of precision, using their automated flight control systems, and the adjustments in the demolition method planned accordingly.

As noted in the summary of the aluminothermics evidence timeline, there is direct evidence for two broad types of thermitic pyrotechnics in the destruction of the Twin Towers:

-Incendiaries, consisting of thermate or thermate possibly with additives such as barium nitrate
-Explosives, consisting of aluminothermic nanocomposites including compounds rich in silicon, carbon, and hydrogen to enhance blast pressure

The scenario reflects this dichotomy in postulating that two distinct stages comprised the demolition of each Tower: a first stage in which strategically-placed thermitic incendiaries attack steelwork while the Tower is still standing, and a second stage in which widely distributed thermitic explosives shatter the Tower from top to bottom.

Method Overview

The destruction of each of the Twin Towers is accomplished by an almost identical overall sequence, consisting of two stages -- a slow first stage, in which key portions of the steelwork are melted and corroded, and a rapid second stage, in which key structures are broken, and the entire Tower is systematically pulverized from the crash zones down. The time T-0 marks the onset of Stage 2.

Stage: 1: Steelwork Thermal/Corrosive Attack Stage 2: Steelwork Knocking and Progressive Distributed Blasting

material: aluminothermic incendiaries enhanced with sulfur aluminothermic nanocomposite explosives including silicon, carbon, hydrogen

application: as coatings applied directly to steelwork as fire-protected kicker charges in close proximity to core steelwork around the crash zone


Pyrotechnics Features

The pyrotechnics are of three types, all based on aluminothermic reactions: an incendiary used in the Stage 1, and two types of explosives used in Stage 2:

Thermate incendiary coating compound: A mixture of aluminum powder, iron oxide powder, sulfur and other additives in a binder. Applied in a liquid form like paint, it dries to form durable coating that requires a high-temperature igniter to start the reaction by heating a spot to the 2,200ºC ignition temperature.

Nanothermite kicker charge: A large forceful charge with relatively low brisance based on a nano-thermite explosive that is stable up to a very high temperature and pressure, such as supplied by a built-in detonator. A protective insulating capsule is shaped like a fire-extinguisher bottle.

Aluminothermic nanocomposite sheet: A thin layer of a nanocomposite aluminothermic material laminated onto a thin brittle slab of iron oxides and hydroxides. The material deflagrates (burns gradually) when elevated to 430ºC, but detonates with high brisance only when extremely high temperature and pressure, such as provided by a micro-detonator, is applied to any part of its surface.

Because these pyrotechnics are energy-dense, have very specific conditions of ignition and detonation, and leave residues composed of the same elements as building parts; they are well suited to the covert demolition of the Twin Towers. Surprising to most people given popular conceptions about explosives, the energetic materials' characteristics allow them to be deployed throughout the crash zones without risk of premature detonations.

The incendiary coatings are unlikely to be ignited by the jetliner crashes because their ignition threshold temperature is so high. But in the event that some are, they will blend in with the hydrocarbon fires.

The kicker charges have very specific detonation conditions unlikely to be achieved even by direct impacts of jetliner parts, let alone office fires, and are further protected by encapsulation.

Without the very rapid pulse of extreme temperature and pressure required to trigger detonation, the nanocomposite sheets will deflagrate on ignition, and do so slowly enough to appear to burn like office furnishings.

Control Architecture

Ignition of the incendiaries and detonation of the explosives is controlled through a wireless network using RF repeaters on every floor of the Towers having pyrotechnics.

Each of the Stage-2 pyrotechnics units -- the kicker charges and explosive sheets -- has an integrated wireless detonator card that includes a 2-channel RF receiver, an accelerometer, logic, dual wafer batteries, and a micro-detonator. The card is cemented onto the surface of the pyrotechnic's thermitic material so that the detonator is in contact with the material.

The detonator cards are programmed to respond only to RF signals on the network's broadcast frequencies that have specific codes. The cards are manufactured in batches of cards with identical codes, where each batch has a unique code and is destined for a specific floor of one of the Towers.

Of a detonator card's two channels, one provides the arm signal, and the other provides a detonation signal. Once the arm signal has been received, the detonator will be triggered by either of two events: rapid acceleration detected by the accelerometer, or receipt of the detonation signal.

Equipment Installation

The scenario allows all of the equipment installation to be disguised so that the very workers doing the installation work are oblivious to the fact that they are installing demolition equipment....
...MORE http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/t..._scenario.html

Military Officers for 9/11 Truth;
http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Firefighters for 911 Truth
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

9/11: Venturing a Plausible Theory of the Crime:
http://busharchives.org/steve.html

[Bushmaster]

I ignored it because that's not an answer, you hasbarat *******. "Go tell it to the cops" does not answer the question, do YOU acknowledge that a crime has been committed with the felony destruction of 99.5% of the tower steel, and aircraft debris at all sites including the Pentagon on 9/11?

MY opinion is irrelevant. Whether or not I think a crime was committed by that will not prove anything to anyone.. You, on the other hand are 100000000000% convinced that one was, so what are you going to do about it?

You even know who is responsible, so what are you going to do about it?

How many times have I told you now, 30? 40 times..? Talk is cheap on teh interwebz brah.

Oh, and BTW... Did you see Richard Gage say NO EXPLOSIVES used at the WTC? Strong statement huh? Care to explain that?? I could have sworn you said explosives were used, no..?



brb my neighbor committed mass murder and got away with it. I know he did it too, but I'm not gonna do anything but bitch about it online for ten years.

Edit: In before that same tired wall of C&P **** that nobody ever reads.

[voodoo101]

MY opinion is irrelevant. Whether or not I think a crime was committed by that will not prove anything to anyone.. You, on the other hand are 100000000000% convinced that one was, so what are you going to do about it?

You even know who is responsible, so what are you going to do about it?

How many times have I told you now, 30? 40 times..? Talk is cheap on teh interwebz brah.

Oh, and BTW... Did you see Richard Gage say NO EXPLOSIVES used at the WTC? Strong statement huh? Care to explain that?? I could have sworn you said explosives were used, no..?



brb my neighbor committed mass murder and got away with it. I know he did it too, but I'm not gonna do anything but bitch about it online for ten years.

Edit: In before that same tired wall of C&P **** that nobody ever reads.

LOL your opinion being irrelevant has never stopped you from expressing it before. Now was the destruction of almost all the steel and all aircraft debris evidence from 9/11 a felony destruction of evidence or wasn't it? Because if we had the aircraft debris, we could know what hit the Pentagon, instead of you getting to say "So what hit the Pentagon?" over and over. And we would know exactly how the towers and WTC7 disappeared, without guessing.

http://www.dailypaul.com/134798/911-...-rudy-giuliani

911 Prosecution Plan: Start with Rudy Giuliani

Submitted by James_Madison_Lives

Now that 911 Truth is growing exponentially, it is time for the movement to be not just about truth but also justice. A new investigation is necessary, yes, but what is also needed is a strategy for prosecution. It is standard procedure in prosecuting any crime gang or conspiracy to start at the bottom with charges that are easy to prove, which will "stick," and then move up as people begin to talk.

If there is one open-and-shut case it is the felony destruction of evidence by Rudy Giuliani. The shipment of 95% of the WTC steel was not only destruction of evidence, it was destruction of Exhibit A. Under the contracting authority of the City of New York, Guliani hired Metal Management Northeast of Newark, N.J., Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City and Blandford Land Development Corporation of Brooklyn. Weeks Marine Inc. created two steel offloading areas at Pier 25 and Pier 6 in the last week of September to accelerate the shipment of the steel on barges to China to be melted.

Great Lakes Dredge and Dock Co. was awarded a contract for $790,500 to deepen the Pier 6 site.

Rudy was a federal prosecutor who knew absolutely and beyond the shadow of a doubt that the destruction of crime scene evidence is a felony. He cannot plead ignorance on this. In addition, many fire science experts, such as Professor Glen Corbett of City University of New York, were calling on Giuliani to halt the destruction of evidence as it was taking place, as were many survivors' families.... MORE http://www.dailypaul.com/134798/911-...-rudy-giuliani

[kusok]

The real problem is where do we go from here, us aware'd brahs. We need to focus on what will gain the masses; one clear enemy.



I think it starts at the Fed. The bankers who own this country aren't going down without a fight and its a bit more complicated than just the federal reserve but I think their the easiest to expose to the public. It'll be easy to paint them as the evil old 100 year old private bank thats raping our money.


Start at the Fed. EndtheFed

But if you don't also end fractional reserve lending and debt-money, ending the Fed will do nothing. Big bankers own the Fed, the committee that makes Fed policy consists of heads of major banks... Fed is a front, the cover, for the private banking cartel. Milton Friedman used to say that if you don't eliminate fractional reserve lending, you can end the Fed tomorrow, and nothing will change.


p.s. off topic
I keep your misc "I love ass so f_ckin much, srs, pics" thread going Greatest OP and thread of all time. More reps on recharge for the inspirational OP text that so well captures the feelings of any real man.

[voodoo101]

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p.s. off topic
I keep your misc "I love ass so f_ckin much, srs, pics" thread going Greatest OP and thread of all time. More reps on recharge for the inspirational OP text that so well captures the feelings of any real man.

dang gimme a link on that.

[Bushmaster]

LOL your opinion being irrelevant has never stopped you from expressing it before.

Here you simpleton, let me explain it to you this way lol...

MY opinion is irrelevant to the outcome that you want. I could answer yes, or I could answer no and it would not change one single thing in your little batsht truther world. The Illuminati, the puppet government of the magic dancing juze, and the FEMA Death Camps will still open for business bright and early tomorrow morning, and not one single thing will have changed. They'll also be open next week, next month and next year too while you rage about them on the internet lol.

Because if we had the aircraft debris, we could know what hit the Pentagon, instead of you getting to say "So what hit the Pentagon?" over and over.

There was American Airlines debris scattered on the pentagon lawn and 60 people who got on AA Flt-77 are gone brah. Strong coincidence huh?

In before another wall of C&P crap.

[voodoo101]

Here you simpleton, let me explain it to you this way lol...

MY opinion is irrelevant to the outcome that you want. I could answer yes, or I could answer no and it would not change one single thing in your little batsht truther world. The Illuminati, the puppet government of the magic dancing juze, and the FEMA Death Camps will still open for business bright and early tomorrow morning, and not one single thing will have changed. They'll also be open next week, next month and next year too while you rage about them on the internet lol.



There was American Airlines debris scattered on the pentagon lawn and 60 people who got on AA Flt-77 are gone brah. Strong coincidence huh?

In before another wall of C&P crap.

I'm not saying FLT 77 didn't hit the Pentagon. You still haven't answered question, sixth time now, why did they destroy the aircraft evidence, and is destruction of this crime scene evidence a felony, yes or no? Then no one would have to guess at what hit the Pentagon.

We can do this as many times as you like, cover-up accomplice.

[nutsy54]

I'm not saying FLT 77 didn't hit the Pentagon. You still haven't answered question, sixth time now, why did they destroy the aircraft evidence, and is destruction of this crime scene evidence a felony, yes or no? Then no one would have to guess at what hit the Pentagon.

We can do this as many times as you like, cover-up accomplice.

They didn't destroy the aircraft debris. A fact that's already been proven to you. But as usual, inconvenient facts are ignored, while you keep repeating the same lies.

Meanwhile, your "top Reagan official" was just an assistant Secretary... for less than a year. Which Disinformation Rule is that, to create a ruse and false claim of Authority?

Funny how government and military officials are universally vilified as treasonous murderers - unless one says something you want to hear, then suddenly he's the divine source of all true knowledge

[Bushmaster]

I'm not saying FLT 77 didn't hit the Pentagon.

Then WTF difference does it make what happened to the debris?

Then no one would have to guess at what hit the Pentagon.

Who's guessing? Seems to me as if anybody with half a brain already knows..

You still haven't answered question, sixth time now, why did they destroy the aircraft evidence, and is destruction of this crime scene evidence a felony, yes or no?

Ever stop and think that maybe I'm not answering it just to piss you off..? Naaah, of course not! Go ahead and ask again brah.

[Stizzel]

Still no answer to "is destruction of evidence in a crime scene a felony?"

Statism is founded on the concept that might makes right. If those in power say it is not a crime, then it's not. That's just the reality we live with. Bureaucrats live in an alternate universe of morality.

[Bushmaster]

Statism is founded on the concept that might makes right. If those in power say it is not a crime, then it's not. That's just the reality we live with. Bureaucrats live in an alternate universe of morality.

Oh, the irony of Stizzel - or any other truther for that matter, talking about anybody living in an alternate universe lol.. Just wow.

Most of the headlines say he (Osama Bin Laden) didn't surrender because he would have had to have been naked to be considered as surrendered.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post707066291

[voodoo101]

Oh, the irony of Stizzel - or any other truther for that matter, talking about anybody living in an alternate universe lol.. Just wow.

Most of the headlines say he (Osama Bin Laden) didn't surrender because he would have had to have been naked to be considered as surrendered.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post707066291

Seventh time now, is destruction of evidence at a crime scene a felony or isn't it? Answer when you are done sukking on Bibi, your paymaster.

http://www.dailypaul.com/134798/911-...-rudy-giuliani

911 Prosecution Plan: Start with Rudy Giuliani

Now that 911 Truth is growing exponentially, it is time for the movement to be not just about truth but also justice. A new investigation is necessary, yes, but what is also needed is a strategy for prosecution. It is standard procedure in prosecuting any crime gang or conspiracy to start at the bottom with charges that are easy to prove, which will "stick," and then move up as people begin to talk.

If there is one open-and-shut case it is the felony destruction of evidence by Rudy Giuliani. The shipment of 95% of the WTC steel was not only destruction of evidence, it was destruction of Exhibit A. Under the contracting authority of the City of New York, Guliani hired Metal Management Northeast of Newark, N.J., Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City and Blandford Land Development Corporation of Brooklyn. Weeks Marine Inc. created two steel offloading areas at Pier 25 and Pier 6 in the last week of September to accelerate the shipment of the steel on barges to China to be melted.

Great Lakes Dredge and Dock Co. was awarded a contract for $790,500 to deepen the Pier 6 site.

Rudy was a federal prosecutor who knew absolutely and beyond the shadow of a doubt that the destruction of crime scene evidence is a felony. He cannot plead ignorance on this. In addition, many fire science experts, such as Professor Glen Corbett of City University of New York, were calling on Giuliani to halt the destruction of evidence as it was taking place, as were many survivors' families.

In so big a hurry was Rudy to destroy evidence that he forced a showdown with firefighters who were searching for, and finding, remains of their fallen brothers and other victims, removing remains with dignity and respect. Rudy ordered them off the "pile" so a more rapid "scoop-and-dump" operation could proceed, culminating in a melee between firefighters and police in which 15 firefighters were arrested and 5 policemen injured.

So important was it that no piece of evidence wind up in the wrong hands that Rudy had the removal trucks fitted with GPS devices at a cost of $1,000 apiece, to track them to shipping piers. ...http://www.dailypaul.com/134798/911-...-rudy-giuliani

[Bushmaster]

Seventh time now, is destruction of evidence at a crime scene a felony or isn't it?

Ok fukit, I'll play along... How about no?

Answer when you are done sukking on Bibi, your paymaster.

Lol, I don't even know WTF that means.

[Bushmaster]

Here voodoo, you need to get out..

http://www.jdate.com/

Ever kiss a girl brah? Give it a try, you might just like it.

[voodoo101]

Here voodoo, you need to get out..

http://www.jdate.com/

Ever kiss a girl brah? Give it a try, you might just like it.

okay whatever butterball, I'd say you look like the one who has never kissed a girl (unless you are the manlet in the pic : )

So let's get back to the topic, I will help you with your wandering attention span. Secretary Roberts of the Reagan administration, with more intelligence in his little toe than you will ever have in your pointless life, says:

The only explanation known to science for the free fall collapse of a building, especially into its own footprint, is engineered demolition, which removes the supports for each floor of the building at split second intervals so that the debris from above meets no resistance on its fall. To call this explanation a “conspiracy theory” is to display the utmost total ignorance.

What do you think of this? Do you think this former editor of the Wall Street Journal has an agenda? Do you understand how his considered judgement stacks up against your stupid flapping mouth?

[Bushmaster]

The only explanation known to science for the free fall collapse of a building, especially into its own footprint, is engineered demolition, which removes the supports for each floor of the building at split second intervals so that the debris from above meets no resistance on its fall. To call this explanation a “conspiracy theory” is to display the utmost total ignorance.

Interdasting... And totally not in sync with what the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth has to say..



...who btw, is completely out of sync with his very own bullsht lol.

One truther says "A," while another one says "B." "Meanwhile two others say "X" and "Z" and tomorrow three more will rage about how it was "Y" lol.

You know, if you fruits ever get your stories straight somebody might just start taking you seriously.

[Bushmaster]

Um, hey voodoo..? From your "expert"

The WTC buildings are known to have collapsed at free fall speed

No, they're not. I told you already that truthers are the only ones to have ever said the WTC collapsed at free fall speed. WTF is he even arguing about..?

Good job on having Rosie O'Donnell on your side though.

[voodoo101]

Um, hey voodoo..? From your "expert"



No, they're not. I told you already that truthers are the only ones to have ever said the WTC collapsed at free fall speed. WTF is he even arguing about..?

Good job on having Rosie O'Donnell on your side though.

hey fatboy why is your sig line all about 9/11 truth? What is your special mission with them? How much does it pay?

[nutsy54]

So let's get back to the topic, I will help you with your wandering attention span. Secretary Roberts of the Reagan administration, with more intelligence in his little toe than you will ever have in your pointless life, says:

Interesting that a Treasury under-Secretary, for less than a year, is held up as a "top Reagan official", who somehow has an advanced understanding of structural engineering and complex demolition systems...

Appeal to Authority, maybe? (Rule #8 for Disinformation tactics)

Explain to us how everyone in a senior government/military position is consistently vilified as part of a global conspiracy of treason and and mass murder (hell, even some of us not in senior positions)... but as soon as one of those people says something you like, they're suddenly held up as the pinnacle of truth and honesty.

Oh, wait - you posted a stupid picture at the end of your post. So I guess that makes everything you said completely true.

[nutsy54]

hey fatboy why is your sig line all about 9/11 truth? What is your special mission with them? How much does it pay?

Let's see...

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.

19. Ignore proof presented

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnew...isinformation/