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    Originally Posted by TrainOfThought View Post
    LOL at Kai not being able to hang with Phil.


    He will be bigger, dryer, harder, and more seperated.............

    Edit: saw you say he will be able to hang with him in another post. Yes, bodybuilding is not about who is the biggest, but it does count for something, especially in modern times besides last year. Kai will be better than phil come olympia time.
    let's see:

    kai has much better lats, much better legs, a much better chest...

    wins the side chest
    wins the front lat
    wins the back lat spread
    wins the ab & thigh

    loses the front bicep
    loses the side tri

    back double bi will be a wash.

    unlike dennis wolf, kai IS complete. he's not missing any body parts. his conditioning is elite. he rarely if ever comes in off. he's got better parts than heath and heath has better parts than him. it's going to come down to the required poses, and those are going to be MUCH closer than the heath mob is willing to admit.

    let's not even talk about the posing round.
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    oh yeah.

    in b4..........

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    Originally Posted by Riz View Post

    wins the side chest
    wins the front lat
    wins the back lat spread
    wins the ab & thigh

    loses the front bicep
    loses the side tri

    back double bi will be a wash.
    lol'd
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    lol'd
    really?

    you mean the pose where phil's lats disappear and he has the cutler taper going on?

    pics coming.
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    i ROFL'd.
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    kais ab n thigh is better then i remember it being actually.... and actually overall kai is better then i remember him being... he actually could very well place ahead of phil this year at the O...


    heath still has overall far more potential then kai though, just the structure is so much better.
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    Originally Posted by Riz View Post
    unlike dennis wolf, kai IS complete.
    Traps and rear delts.

    Originally Posted by Riz View Post
    That's an old pic, he's blown out his obliques a bit more since then.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    kais ab n thigh is better then i remember it being actually.... and actually overall kai is better then i remember him being... he actually could very well place ahead of phil this year at the O...


    heath still has overall far more potential then kai though, just the structure is so much better.
    A heath fan that isnt so defensive Good unbiased post!

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    Best routine EVER.

    Kai is major threat at this years O.I really hope he uses this music again.
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    How does every thread turn into Phil vrs whoever...
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    Originally Posted by Riz View Post
    let's see:

    kai has much better lats, much better legs, a much better chest...

    wins the side chest
    wins the front lat
    wins the back lat spread
    wins the ab & thigh

    loses the front bicep
    loses the side tri

    back double bi will be a wash.

    unlike dennis wolf, kai IS complete. he's not missing any body parts. his conditioning is elite. he rarely if ever comes in off. he's got better parts than heath and heath has better parts than him. it's going to come down to the required poses, and those are going to be MUCH closer than the heath mob is willing to admit.

    let's not even talk about the posing round.
    I agree it can be close because of Kai's insane size with insane conditioning.
    But Phil looks better overall,better flow,better lines,better muscle bellies,much prettier physique,much more polished.

    Kai is not complete,he lacks trap and upperback thickness,rear delt and side delts thickness and sweep. His waist is horrendus and his physique flow and lines are ugly as fukk...

    Pose by pose,Kai does win some i guess. Rear lat spread,probably front lat spread as well,side chest.

    Phil will win Back double biceps because of his complete developed back and insane detail,side-tri,most-muscular & Abs & thight...

    Overall Phil and Dex look way better then Kai and will only profit of having an physique similar,pushing the battle for the Top 2 between them...

    Kai real challenger is Jay for the third place...


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    Let me just start by saying that as far as people can tell, Kai should be the favorite against Phil. Kai at this years Arnold beats Phil's O', which is the most recent contest shape we have seen from him. I am a huge Phil fan, but people give Dex no credit, and assume far too much with Phil. Will he be great, yes, but did he make insane gains to "dominate" the O' field this year, unlikely. Enough about that crap though, because this thread is about Kai, and that is an awesome routine to an awesome song. I definitely hope Kai brings it back for the O', and I would guess from this, and Kai's general interest in dance, that Michael Jackson is a big influence of his. Also props have to go out to this show for letting Kai do a 3+ minute routine. I hated when the Arnold cut his music, so retarded. If bodybuilding is going to gain any audience it is going to be with the night shows and routines.
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    Originally Posted by lostsk8 View Post
    How does every thread turn into Phil vrs whoever...
    Gets a bit sickening doesn't it.
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    Originally Posted by Kiwi_ View Post
    Gets a bit sickening doesn't it.
    Imagine in October when Phil is alreay Mr.O
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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    Imagine in October when Phil is alreay Mr.O
    I don't see him winning, he will get second I predict.
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    You could blow this up and use it for a wallpaper when Kai wins the O.

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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    Lol... thats what people said about wolf vs heath and we all know how that turned out...


    also ask wolf how "out-massing" dexter worked out for him






    I don't know when people will wake up and realize bodybuilding is FAR more then about whos the biggest....
    Dex looks 10x better then Wolf in this pic dunno how anyone could put Wolf over Dex!
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    this is the thing... kai can beat phil body part for body part all over the shop... BUT as a package heath just looks so much more 'perfect'....

    depends what the judges want to see but kai is certainly one of the biggest mother****ers out there at his height of 5'7.5
    I wish it lasted, forever.
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    great routine, even greater song
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    Victor > Heath (always has been)
    Kai > Victor

    do the math..
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    It's only a matter of time before he's the next Ronnie.

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    I strongly believe that Kai is a HUGE threat to Dex and Jay. Actually he has a great chance at the title, but who knows... Jay can still shock the WORLD of bodybuilding in September, and that's a very interesting to watch out for.
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    Originally Posted by Kiwi_ View Post
    It's only a matter of time before he's the next Ronnie.
    dude he already is... no ones made quality mass progress like him in as little time as him PAR the great ron himself...
    I wish it lasted, forever.
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    Heath has a better grimace for his MM.

    But Branch has a better sticking out his tongue during his.
    Time To Re-Schedule
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    However good the music is, bodybuilders should refrain from lip-synching to it.

    Not only is it pointless, but it draws the observer's eye to his face - and away from his 'business end' !
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    I personally don't like the way he poses, looks a bit gayish to me, but hey that's a personal opinion. He is however going to win the O this year.
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    Originally Posted by siersy View Post
    this is the thing... kai can beat phil body part for body part all over the shop... BUT as a package heath just looks so much more 'perfect'....

    depends what the judges want to see but kai is certainly one of the biggest mother****ers out there at his height of 5'7.5
    and flex just looked so much more perfect than dorian. a lot of good it did him at the O.
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    Originally Posted by Kiwi_ View Post
    It's only a matter of time before he's the next Ronnie.
    No, No, come now, let's not over exaggerate.
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    Originally Posted by Riz View Post
    let's see:

    kai has much better lats, much better legs, a much better chest...

    wins the side chest
    wins the front lat
    wins the back lat spread
    wins the ab & thigh

    loses the front bicep
    loses the side tri

    back double bi will be a wash.

    unlike dennis wolf, kai IS complete. he's not missing any body parts. his conditioning is elite. he rarely if ever comes in off. he's got better parts than heath and heath has better parts than him. it's going to come down to the required poses, and those are going to be MUCH closer than the heath mob is willing to admit.

    let's not even talk about the posing round.
    This post is bang on.

    Kai is better than Heath when you break down the mandatories. Sure Phil is prettier, but Kai brings the total package with some seriously standout body parts (legs and back), incredible condition and the ability to display his attributes to their fullest potential.

    It's his O to lose this year.
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