Ripptoe says to stop the program when you reset (drop 10% weight, then work your way back) all lifts at least 3 times. In other words, when you fail to add weight to the bar and complete your sets on squat or deadlift for the third time, it usually means you can hardly milk anymore gains from SS.
More simply put, when you can't progress in poundage every work outs anymore even if you did many resets, it might be time to seek for another program.
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Competition lift : 212 kg total (95/117) @ 77 kg
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12-09-2012, 08:49 PM #98
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Are we talking vanilla SS? Because that's pretty crappy and I wouldn't even recommend it to a noob.
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12-09-2012, 08:52 PM #99
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12-09-2012, 09:08 PM #102
What you forgot about is that most bodybuilders take steroids which grossly increases the amount of muscle they gain from working out. If you train for motor recruitment and then add in training for hypotrophy you can get a lot bigger much quicker. One of the biggest natural bodybuilders in the world used this strategy.
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12-09-2012, 09:30 PM #103
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12-09-2012, 10:18 PM #106
This, except I suppose there is one - martyn - who seems to have done SS really "right."
Sure it is a simple program, but for bodybuilding, it is a stupid program. Can you make gains on it? Sure. But lets see here...the only chest work is bench for 3 or 6 sets a week, same with delts and ohp, same with rows for back except for deads once a week, and then we have the squat 3x a week with no other leg work despite the fact that everyone on here is always stressing how important a lot of hamstring work is. Lateral and rear delts are left out, clavicular pec head is left out, traps, biceps and triceps, not even once, no vertical pulling, etc. A "noob" who only gets decent numbers up on a few lifts but has no idea how to do anything else is still a noob.
Of course babylovers addressess a handful of these issues, and god bless him he did the best he could in trying to salvage a routine that was NOT. MADE. FOR BODYBUILDERS. ****, go do Push pull legs, or do chest/tri back/bi delts/legs rest, or even go do fukin KOHT. Or even a damn brosplit. I really believe that someone who does a high intensity brosplit for 6 months will look better and be all around more developed than someone who just does SS and eats in some absurd caloric surplus. I would rather be benching 185x8 and look like I actually lift than bench 225x5 and look like poop.Bench Press - 225x18 // 275x8 // 330x1
Squat - 385x7 // 445x1
Overhead Press - 135x20 // 225x1
Deadlift - 385x11
Bodyweight OHP for reps!
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12-09-2012, 10:25 PM #107
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12-09-2012, 10:33 PM #109
You look fukin phenomenal but youve said yourself you mostly got that way from bodyweight exercises, which is about as far away of an idea from SS as you could possibly be.
Ethan - dude I dont know. It seems like the vast majority of people on here who do SS when they start dont look like they lift with their shirts on (and even off most of the time) and always just get caught up in numbers, adding weight to the bar, and reaching this elusive 2/3/4 goal, because lord knows anyone squatting 315 has jus GOT to be huuuuuge.Bench Press - 225x18 // 275x8 // 330x1
Squat - 385x7 // 445x1
Overhead Press - 135x20 // 225x1
Deadlift - 385x11
Bodyweight OHP for reps!
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12-10-2012, 07:16 AM #115
You guys are acting like if you're a bodybuilder you're automatically weak. In reality most bodybuilders are relatively strong as ****, certainly much stronger than the average tmiscer who trains for strength. The opposite cannot be said for most power lifters. They're fat as **** and don't even look like they lift. In the real world, aesthetics>strength. How often are you going to be benefited from squatting 6 plates for 1 rep as opposed to 3 for 20 in the real world? Yeah, not often. Being swole on the other hand, 24/7. Bitches be mirin, brahs be jelly, you be sexy, etc.
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12-10-2012, 07:25 AM #116
I've personally always found that when I train for strength, I generally gain all the benefits from bodybuiding with the added perk that I'm not all show and no go.
I've gained size and thickness focusing on a powerlifting routine and an awesome increase in strength as well. Also, I've noticed that when I train heavy, it translates to higher reps when I use less weight. I've been doing dips with 105 lbs for 3x5 for a couple weeks and can comfortably do 4x20 bodyweight dips, while most people in my gym who train with only bodyweight can't even get close to that. Same goes for weighted pull-ups translating to bodyweight pull-ups.
In terms of strength, I have yet to see someone who can rep out a lower weight max out at what I think they would.
However I still have visible abs and look more like a bodybuilder, yet I still do mostly powerlifting routines. There is a certain measure of respect people have for someone who looks good and still uses a lot of weight, and there is definitely a confidence factor walking around knowing you're stronger than the majority of people and a lot of the ones who lift for aesthetic reasons.
At the end of the day, you should ALWAYS find what works for you and DO it. I'm not going to change how I lift because of this article, that's just stupid. Not that OP was trying to get anyone to change what they were doing, but still.
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12-10-2012, 11:02 AM #119
Have fun browsing through my posts here, or click on my username -> View forum posts.
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