Everything I see lately is pushing R-ALA which is the "activated" form of ALA. So my question would be is there still a place for ALA in daily supplementation?
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Thread: R-ALA Vs. ALA
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06-28-2011, 09:01 AM #1
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R-ALA Vs. ALA
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06-28-2011, 11:30 AM #2
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Sorry I didn't search more before I posted (I hate the format of this forum I hope they streamline it some how soon). My question would become then why do only a few companies produce it if that's the case. Understand I'm not doubting you as a person, but if the science points to this conclusion...then why?
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06-28-2011, 03:38 PM #7
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06-28-2011, 03:42 PM #8
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06-28-2011, 08:31 PM #9
It's a possibility. It provides less r-ala per mg of na-r-ala as well.
Na-r-ala for sure. it's not a matter of how much na-r-ala that is ingested but how much r-ala is ingested. I would say the upper limit of 600 would be the highest, but may be a waste. I think between 120-200mg r-ala is the upper limit per dosing, no more than 3 doses a day.I can do amazing things for your body composition. PM for more info.
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06-29-2011, 09:24 AM #10Originally Posted by wakingmalice
Results
NaRLA displays mean Cmax and AUC values of 16.03 ug /mL and 7.36 ug hr/mL and decreased time to maximum concentration (Tmax) and T1/2 values relative to literature values for RLA or rac-LA. In order to significantly extend Cmax and AUC, it is possible to administer three 600-mg RLA doses (as NaRLA) at 15-minute intervals to achieve plasma concentrations similar to those from a slow (20-minute) IV infusion of LA.
Altern Med Rev. 2007 Dec;12(4):343-51.
Carlson DA, Smith AR, Fischer SJ, Young KL, Packer L.
The plasma pharmacokinetics of R-(+)-lipoic acid administered as sodium R-(+)-lipoate to healthy human subjects.~
Wherever progression lacks.... regress can be found in abundance.
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06-29-2011, 09:31 AM #11
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06-29-2011, 09:50 AM #12
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06-29-2011, 09:52 AM #13
I've never used it however, if the raws are analytically verified, then I'm sure it's a quality source of NaRLA. Unfortunately, I never did much research on the topic of NaRLA and/or RLA-mediated enhancement of insulin secretion in healthy adults, so I'll just refrain from commenting on that topic for now.
--> In any case, I see absolutely no justification for the addition of BMOV.~
Wherever progression lacks.... regress can be found in abundance.
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06-29-2011, 09:54 AM #14
I'm currently without my computer, so I'm not sure what else I have on file. Nonetheless, here's a little info....
Altern Med Rev. 2007 Dec;12(4):343-51.
Carlson DA, Smith AR, Fischer SJ, Young KL, Packer L.
The plasma pharmacokinetics of R-(+)-lipoic acid administered as sodium R-(+)-lipoate to healthy human subjects.
http://www.anaturalhealingcenter.com...Lipoic12-4.pdf~
Wherever progression lacks.... regress can be found in abundance.
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06-29-2011, 09:59 AM #15
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06-29-2011, 12:07 PM #24
SAN is geronova's.
Blood glucose monitor and gi distress is noticeable. nothing in glycobol will cause gi distress in my experience (i've taken each ingredient separately) so I assume it's the low quality ingredients.
Interesting study on 600mg. Although i saw no extra benefit on 300+ mg when doing glucose meter.I can do amazing things for your body composition. PM for more info.
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06-29-2011, 12:28 PM #25
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06-29-2011, 03:07 PM #30
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Geronova's should be the gold standard. When we had started the research on the old GXR and then the possibility of a reform we tested out probably half a dozen different samples. Both in the lab and with a glucometer. Over and over again Geronovas was the best but it isnt cheap. Ive wanted to try out there new liquid stuff and see if its different at all.
Ive seen a lot of people suggest to use higher amounts of the cheaper stuff but even that didnt seem to help much with the glucometer.Matt Cahill
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