So the aesthetic crew are taking aesthetics to a whole new level. Most notably Supaturk & Chestbrah. Those guys look bigger and better (thicker. more solid. tighter.) every time they post a new pic.
What are your thoughts on the 'Natural' vs. 'Steroids' approach.
Personally I'm 100% natty. Always have been and until recently always thought I would be. However I've begun contemplating the following question....
Q: In pursuit of Aesthetics... how far is going too far? Should we be aiming to develop the best natural physique possible or is this overshadowed by the results that are achievable when taking things to a whole new level by using Performance Enhancing Drugs?
I posted this query over on my ******** Page a little over an hour ago but with an audience of only 95 (fuarkin awesome people) I predict the feedback will be somewhat limited...
Be good to get the thoughts of the Teen Board on this...
Some pics to guide your decision...
Steroids (assumed from previous comments, arrests, etc):
Natural:
**PLEASE ALSO POST OTHER PICS OF THICK. SOLID. TIGHT. NATURAL PHYSIQUES.**
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01-31-2012, 06:49 AM #1
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Aesthetic Idols: Natural Vs. Steroids
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01-31-2012, 07:05 AM #7
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Thx for the prompt reply.
I guess I should have phrased it differently.
Personally I think the physique that has been crafted by Chestbrother and Supaturk is far superior to that of mine and most other natural bodybuilders / aspiring fitness models...I mean look at them! Fuark!
But...is acquiring this next level of Aesthetic at the expense of our long term health / perception of cheating / taking short-cuts or should we be keeping health and doing things the 'hard way' / naturally at the core of what it means to be aesthetic....Or is not a single f*ck given how we get there...we just get there?
I'm keen to hear your collective thoughts on this.On an Aesthetic Journey...
Gain 2.5Kg
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01-31-2012, 07:26 AM #18
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I think there has to be balance achieved. Nowadays you have these guys weighing 260 at 6 foot. I think a physique with a great balancce like Arnolds is the best. It is speculated that he used lower doeses of steroids so this just made him look amazing rather than like a monster.
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In essence I'm pretty much mad and jelly that I work hard, diet strict but will probably never (not even in 5-10yrs) look as big and as shredded as for example Supaturk. Therefore it's got me questioning what is and is not OK when it comes to getting Aesthetic. I think due to the health risks inherent to using Steroids I probably will never join the millions who use them but I was interested to know what others think and feel.
I don't think this is about morals though. That's a bit too deep for the shallow nature of this aesthetics oriented thread.On an Aesthetic Journey...
Gain 2.5Kg
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Then the risk vs. reward doesn't balance out for you. Everyone who has done steroids has paid the cost, be it health, price, or social stigma. For them the trade off was worth it. Your experience may vary. It's dumb to compare yourself to steroid users, it will drive you insane and isn't an accurate reflection of your own progress.
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01-31-2012, 07:35 AM #23
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You sir are the ******* ITT. I never mentioned a Steroid Physique. Just a Natural vs. Steroid approach.
brb just going to try to get to Supaturk level naturally will be back in 8yrs...
8yrs later...
brb just realised impossible to achieve Supaturk level physique naturally and I've just wasted 8yrs so crying into my Raspberry Flavour Whey Protein Shake...
GTFO *******!On an Aesthetic Journey...
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VonsFitnessTips.com Interview - http://vonsfitnesstips.com/interviews/aspiring-fitness-model-jaco-talks-with-vonsfitnesstips-com/
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01-31-2012, 07:39 AM #27
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This was me about 4.5months ago at the beginning of my proposed transformation. I still feel uneasy about the prospect of using steroids due to the health risks. Is it not hard though knowing that you work AS hard but can be sure you'll never look AS good? Just askin?
On an Aesthetic Journey...
Gain 2.5Kg
Lose 3% BF
...in 2months.
Follow my aesthetic journey (progress pics, workout routines, diet, supplementation)...
******** Page - http://www.********.com/pages/Jaco/122270257885969
VonsFitnessTips.com Interview - http://vonsfitnesstips.com/interviews/aspiring-fitness-model-jaco-talks-with-vonsfitnesstips-com/
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On an Aesthetic Journey...
Gain 2.5Kg
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...in 2months.
Follow my aesthetic journey (progress pics, workout routines, diet, supplementation)...
******** Page - http://www.********.com/pages/Jaco/122270257885969
VonsFitnessTips.com Interview - http://vonsfitnesstips.com/interviews/aspiring-fitness-model-jaco-talks-with-vonsfitnesstips-com/
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