Hey people, after unfortunately completely leaving my diet and training routine for about 2 weeks, im now back on a Ketogenic diet, it looks something like this:
Meal 1: 3 scrambled eggs
Meal 2: Tuna and Mayonnaise and 2 table spoons of peanut butter.
Meal 3: 2 Chicken Breasts
Meal 4: 2 rashers of bacon, 50g of mixed nuts.
Meal 5: Steak or beef or pork.
Now I was wondering if saturated fats can be beneficial or inhibiting in a Ketogenic diet, i mean, i hear all about the amount of fat i should be eating, but not really the type of fat.
Should I be keeping sat. fats down, or can they too be converted into ketones? Also, is my diet effective for entering ketosis, its just i was given plenty of advice here before but managed to lose that dam diet
Thanks for any help, im open to all advice. Also, i dont have a carb up during my week, can someone please explain the carb up to me fully and how should/does training fit around the carb up? sorry for all the questions, but thx for ure comments.
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Thread: Saturated Fats in Keto?
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07-28-2006, 06:12 PM #1
Saturated Fats in Keto?
Last edited by -E-; 07-28-2006 at 06:17 PM.
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07-28-2006, 06:36 PM #2
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07-29-2006, 01:40 PM #3
Saturated fats are essential for your health. You need them to keep your immune system healthy, your bones strong and your testosterone levels high. There is a direct relationship between the amount of saturated fat in your diet and your test levels, and an inverse relationship between polyunsaturates and testosterone.
65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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07-29-2006, 11:55 PM #4Originally Posted by -E-
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07-30-2006, 12:21 AM #5
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07-30-2006, 10:24 AM #6Originally Posted by ironman1964bc
Once you realise how much evidence there is that low-fat/high-carb is dubious fad, you start feeling a lot better.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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07-30-2006, 12:19 PM #7Originally Posted by Eileen
But here's the rub... it comes to a grinding halt after a while. The body adapts and even begins to reverse. I found that a high carb/low fat diet, unless I did ridiculous amounts of aerobics, caused me to gain fat. And for whatever reason, a few years ago I developed insulin resistance (Type 2 diabetes ) and Metabolic Syndrome. This ketogenic diet is the only thing that has helped me get both of those under control, to the extent that when my endocrinologist saw my blood work and I told her about my diet, she said keep doing it."Go home, have a beer and smash something. That's what I would do" - Unknown (but probably Thor).
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07-30-2006, 12:44 PM #8
Here is a great page on fats for people who are interested in knowing more about how they are used by the body.
http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html
I also stayed fairly slim on a high carb diet as long as I continued to bike and run alot. The problem is every winter or every injury caused me to gain weight because I couldn't keep the aerobics up. Even when I was in the best aerobic shape of my life in 1995 (5000 miles of biking in 4 months) all I heard from friends and family was how terrible I looked. Earlier that winter I was benching 420lbs and squatting over 600lbs at a bodyweight of 240lbs. After the 5000 miles of biking, I weighed 178lbs and could only bench 240lbs. How ironic it was to hear how terrible I looked when I considered myself to be in great shape but that's what happens when you use muscle for fuel.
The only way I have been able to stay lean and remain muscular is by doing the keto diet and sprints. With high carbs, I was either small (not lean) with no strength or fat with alot of strength.
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07-30-2006, 05:13 PM #9
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07-30-2006, 08:32 PM #10Originally Posted by -E-
If you can find some carb countdown milk made by Hood's, then that would be ok on a keto diet as long as you don't drink too much at once. It is good for protein drinks because it will thicken them up alot better than water can.
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07-30-2006, 08:44 PM #11
Drink fermented milk products (like kefir). Raw milk is really the only way to go. Drinking pasteurized/homogenized milk has tremendous health problems associated with it, while raw milk from grass fed cows has a lot of benefits (including CLA).
The carbs are eaten up by the probiotics and converted into lactic acid.
You could still be in a low carb diet and consume milk, just make sure you're not drinking gallons of it.
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07-31-2006, 10:05 AM #12
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01-21-2007, 08:07 PM #13
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01-21-2007, 08:13 PM #14
woop thats me too, I can gain at a faster pace with carbs but, the fat comes with the strength... If i want to stay under 12% taking out hte carbs is the only thing that seems to work. I stay lean and maintain most of my strength. I can ramp up exercise and lower calories, but... then muscle comes off too... so it seems on any diet with adequate carbs I either gain muscle and fat, or lose muscle and fat, on keto the fat melts off and muscle stays, its just more of a dense muscle, strength doesn't decline, still goes up.
Last edited by grapemaster; 01-21-2007 at 08:15 PM.
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