Should your Deadlift = your ATG squat?

[MyBaddBrah]

Since most CORRECT Deadlift instructional videos say for the bottom part you should be pushing with all legs?

[andregrenier]

No. If it did then my deadlift would suck.

[IngeKJ]

Depends on leverages, but generally no

[simp3204]

I doubt you are ATG squatting.

[MyBaddBrah]

I doubt you are ATG squatting.

ATG only has one meaning.. hamstrings to calves

[allergic2rice]

what?

[tom11]

Should your Deadlift = your ATG squat?

No.

[Suxirc]

No.

[wilv]

nope. done ATG squats before, they are HARD as fuk. your low bar squat should correlate better to your deadlift

[randomalias]

Since most CORRECT Deadlift instructional videos say for the bottom part you should be pushing with all legs?

Don't forget that you start a deadlift in a quarter squat position. You should be a looooot stronger in that position than a full squat.

[ubungy]

Deadlift > Any competition depth squat. Even if you buy into the whole 'squat the weight off the floor' thing (I don't), you're not going to be under full load at parallel or below on your deadlift, unless you have some mad stubby arms lol.

edit: I speak only from high bar squat and conv. deadlift experience.

[scullin]

Normally deadlift is much higher unless there are injuries. Right now mine are about equal only because of some problems I'm working through. But I expect deadlift to overtake squat soon.

[MakeABanana]

Don't forget that you start a deadlift in a quarter squat position. You should be a looooot stronger in that position than a full squat.

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[Thesuperstar]

No and I haven't seen anybody ever that this was true for.

[simp3204]

ATG only has one meaning.. hamstrings to calves

Lulz, you must not Internet.

[davisj3537]

Are you seriously asking this question?

[Conquer92]

I surely hope OP is suggesting that if his ATG Squatting goes up, his deadlift will go up.

Not, I deadlift and ATG squat the same amount of weight.

Surely OP, it must be the prior, surely.

[MoochieJenkins]

I don't go quite ATG because of a knee issue, though I wish I could squat like that. When I do go ATG with lighter weights I feel how explosive and athletic I could be. I think I'd actually be able to squat more if I hit the hole with speed and was able to use a rebound reflex.

With that said, my below parallel squat and deadlift are even. However my squat goes, so goes my deadlift.

[pyaarawala]

lol, normally your DL shouldn't be equal to your squat. And ATG on top of that? Definitely no

[MyBaddBrah]

. Even if you buy into the whole 'squat the weight off the floor' thing (I don't),

If you don't "squat the weight off the floor" at the beginning of the movement, you place the majority of the load on your lumbar spine.

Am I wrong? Can someone confirm? Is there another way of doing it?

[ubungy]

If you don't "squat the weight off the floor" at the beginning of the movement, you place the majority of the load on your lumbar spine.

Am I wrong? Can someone confirm? Is there another way of doing it?

Hmm I should clarify a bit. I am not implying that you do not use leg drive while deadlifting, all common knowledge on how to perform a deadlift applies. I just believe the dynamics of the squat and deadlift are sufficiently different that 'squatting the weight off the floor', while perhaps an apt mental que, is not representative of how you actually do the lift. I dunno, I'm not an authority on anything, that's just my opinion though. I come here to learn, but I want to post vids so I need posts.

[scullin]

If you don't "squat the weight off the floor" at the beginning of the movement, you place the majority of the load on your lumbar spine.

Am I wrong? Can someone confirm? Is there another way of doing it?

I want a video of a guy crawling under a bar on the floor and squatting it.

[hammerfelt]

Since most CORRECT Deadlift instructional videos say for the bottom part you should be pushing with all legs?

Equal in what way? Starting position or weight lifted?

[untranslatedZA]

I would say maybe but only for heavily geared lifters .... raw ... not even once.

[Link815]

If only my deadlift was even close to my squat..

[tinytim1]

I know some raw lifters that can squat 25-30kg more than their deadlift

[JustSaiyanBro]

For me that would be a 545 squat.

No thanks Jeff.

[InspecktaDeck]

If only my deadlift was even close to my squat..

Was waiting to see if you or dave would post. Dont worry your bench makes up for it

[azs]

Raw lifters usually have a higher deadlift that even their parallel squat. I deadlift 240kg and squat 170kg (although could probably get at least 175kg now if I went for it) lmao

[farmerswalk]

In general, a lifter's deadlift of whatever type (conventional or sumo) would be higher than his/her squat. But also notice that quite a few raw superheavies tend to squat more than their deadlift. Leverages? perhaps. I'm not entirely sure.