pauline nordin....fighter diet!!!

[user6209]

any one tried this new way of life yet (diet)???

she seems to really know her stuff and looks mint, i try to get her advice on what diet to but into when on her face book but never get a reply...due to the thousands of people on there!!! i want to buy her extreme fighter diet but am a tad sceptic when buying stuff on line.

ive tried working out my macros but im thick as f*%k with numbers etc, does anyone know what my macros and cals should be for fat shredding and getting lean. somone on here did tell me but i cant find the thread!!! im 5ft 5inc 60kg and train 6 days a week for an hour, mainly on the weights.

cheers

[Echo814]

I don't know much about the fighter diet but Pauline is very lean, at all times, which is very hard to maintain. This is the link to calculating cals and macros. Emma does a great job listing how to calculate for weight loss, gain or maintaining. Do the math come up with some numbers and if you have further questions let us know

[user6209]

I don't know much about the fighter diet but Pauline is very lean, at all times, which is very hard to maintain. This is the link to calculating cals and macros. Emma does a great job listing how to calculate for weight loss, gain or maintaining. Do the math come up with some numbers and if you have further questions let us know

echo - sorry to be a pain but i cant find the link?? ha xxx

[Echo814]

echo - sorry to be a pain but i cant find the link?? ha xxx

Sorry it didn't copy lol. Here it is http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703921

[fitlover]

I am not a fan of this diet at all, anymore. I think that the thought of keeping up with a diet like that year-round is masochistic and inane.

But that's JMO.

[viridian]

I am not a fan of this diet at all, anymore. I think that the thought of keeping up with a diet like that year-round is masochistic and inane.

But that's JMO.

I agree. I think she's insanely inspirational but there are other ways to get lean (perhaps not AS lean, but few really want to be that lean at all times) that arent as all-or-nothing.

[thepowerwithin]

I am not a fan of this diet at all, anymore. I think that the thought of keeping up with a diet like that year-round is masochistic and inane.

But that's JMO.

Not only that, but in reading her blog (not sure why), I realize she is completely unhappy.

[Linds33]

Not only that, but in reading her blog (not sure why), I realize she is completely unhappy.

This...I really don't find her to be inspirational at all (again just me personally). I don't feel like her dedication comes from a true happiness or enjoyment of something but because of a possible eating disorder and disordered body image.

Not good

[fitlover]

This...I really don't find her to be inspirational at all (again just me personally). I don't feel like her dedication comes from a true happiness or enjoyment of something but because of a possible eating disorder and disordered body image.

Not good

Exactly my thoughts. I thought she looked MUCH better, healthier, and more beautiful when she was in her figure competition days...her muscles looked full, her face didn't look so sunken, etc.

[heidismommy]

This...I really don't find her to be inspirational at all (again just me personally). I don't feel like her dedication comes from a true happiness or enjoyment of something but because of a possible eating disorder and disordered body image.

Not good

I agree completely. Her blog sounds like it is written by someone in the depths of an eating disorder (coming from someone who has been there and can spot it from a mile away). She doesn't seem happy and I know her health must be suffering by maintaining such low body fat from such restrictive means. That doesn't inspire me, not in the least. People who have a more reasonable head about them are the ones I find most inspirational.

[imperfectly_lou]

Her all or nothing approach and condescending remarks to others, particularly people who question her approach, really irritate me.

[fitlover]

Her all or nothing approach and condescending remarks to others, particularly people who question her approach, really irritate me.

At least I'm not the only one!

[digitalbath11]

Her all or nothing approach and condescending remarks to others, particularly people who question her approach, really irritate me.

^^This.

She does come off as condescending. I know she speaks a lot for herself and her views, but from time to time, you can't help to think YOU are being judged for not caring about the things she cares about.

About a year or so ago, I started reading her blog and I'll admit it really helped me to get motivated about my own plan and goals. But the more and more I read it, I realized it wasn't exactly the "healthiest" thing for me to read. It started to make me a little mental about my own "jiggle" and food choices. I hated even giving those things a single thought, so I am way smarter about reading her blogs like a grain of salt.

There should definitely be a disclaimer about reading her blog.

And to whoever said that she looked better a couple of years ago (especially during her competition years), I agree.

[Suzash]

An interesting topic. I have read her blog myself and also agree that though her body looks phenomenal, her lifestyle is 100% centered around working out and diet and it seems that she does not lead a balanced lifestyle in any way shape or form. I know she probably does not write about her day to day life on her blog but she seems to constantly be on her ******** page leading me to believe shes sleeps, eats, works out, eats, more cardio, eats, sleep. Day in....day out. I could totally be wrong here but this is how it appears.

I do read her blog and her ******** page (as do others in here...which is funny to me because they seek her approval there but bash her here....) as she is very knowledgeable and provides some good tips. She continually reiterates that this is HER LIFESTYLE, she is content to not ever have children, to eat rigidly, and to exercise her butt off, and I respect her choice. I would not, however, wish this lifestyle among myself, friends, or family, because in "real life", this seems way to much like a disordered way of living.

[imperfectly_lou]

I don't think she really IS that knowledgeable tho... A lot of what she says has no scientific backing and she admits she doesn't look to others in the industry who DO keep thrmselves up to date with the science...

[sonti]

If you didn't know who Nordin was or what she looked like ... say she just said she was your average 20-30 year old woman ... would you still admire her discipline or would you think 'EATING DISORDER!!'.

Seriously, read this again and pretend you don't know who she is - just that she is an average girl whose life is about working out and staying lean. Would you really think the same thing?
http://www.fighterdiet.com/blog/

[SexyChic]

I am not one to judge her way of eating/way of life...But if I had to eat that much veggies everyday I would be cranky too!!!! LOL

[Linds33]

When i read a fitness blog I want someone to motivate by getting me excited about lifting that heavy weight or encouraging. When i read her blogs i feel either berrated or down and unmotivated. Like people said you feel like she is judging you for not following her plan even though she maintains that it is her chosen lifestyle.

And her life IS her body. I know there are a lot of women on here with full time jobs that stay lean and wonderful looking, but that woman eats, breathes and sleeps workout and diet. It is essentially her job to do look the way she does.

I know this is kind of a touch subject but i do want to ask: Is she "all natural?"

[imperfectly_lou]

When i read a fitness blog I want someone to motivate by getting me excited about lifting that heavy weight or encouraging. When i read her blogs i feel either berrated or down and unmotivated. Like people said you feel like she is judging you for not following her plan even though she maintains that it is her chosen lifestyle.

And her life IS her body. I know there are a lot of women on here with full time jobs that stay lean and wonderful looking, but that woman eats, breathes and sleeps workout and diet. It is essentially her job to do look the way she does.

I know this is kind of a touch subject but i do want to ask: Is she "all natural?"

She maintains she is.... but I do wonder how someone can eat such a restrictive diet, do such enormous amounts of cardio and have as much muscle mass as she does though. But she IS incredibly strong.

[fitlover]

She maintains she is.... but I do wonder how someone can eat such a restrictive diet, do such enormous amounts of cardio and have as much muscle mass as she does though. But she IS incredibly strong.

It's an iffy subject, however she really isn't THAT big. She's actually really small. Her muscles look bigger because of photos and because she's extremely lean, but overall she really doesn't have as much muscle mass as she used to. Have you seen her legs when they're in her tight workout clothes? TINY.

[juliacheh]

It's an iffy subject, however she really isn't THAT big. She's actually really small. Her muscles look bigger because of photos and because she's extremely lean, but overall she really doesn't have as much muscle mass as she used to. Have you seen her legs when they're in her tight workout clothes? TINY.

I agree. I think Jaime Koeppe, if she ever chooses to lean out, would look more impressive. However, she always looked amazing at higher body fat and probably does not have the issues that Pauline does.
Also, I agree with imperfectly_lou, she often spews broscience, e.g., she repeatedly said that cabs and fat on one meal will make you fat. Not true and has been debunked.

[heidismommy]

It's an iffy subject, however she really isn't THAT big. She's actually really small. Her muscles look bigger because of photos and because she's extremely lean, but overall she really doesn't have as much muscle mass as she used to. Have you seen her legs when they're in her tight workout clothes? TINY.

I agree. She wears a size 0, has mentioned she doesn't want to be big, she likes to look shredded without clothes and tiny while wearing clothes. She doesn't want to be bigger, she has admitted to that, so I seriously doubt she has assistance. She looks more muscular than she actually is because she has so little body fat, but if you stood her next to an average woman she would just look super tiny and painfully lean.

[drumchick34]

Her back looks like it has a six pack on it! I was surprised when I saw that.

[fitlover]

I agree. I think Jaime Koeppe, if she ever chooses to lean out, would look more impressive. However, she always looked amazing at higher body fat and probably does not have the issues that Pauline does.

I don't even think Jaime Koeppe should ever lean out!! She looks AMAZING with a higher body fat %, IMO. There's just some girls who can pull that off. *sigh*

I agree. She wears a size 0, has mentioned she doesn't want to be big, she likes to look shredded without clothes and tiny while wearing clothes. She doesn't want to be bigger, she has admitted to that, so I seriously doubt she has assistance. She looks more muscular than she actually is because she has so little body fat, but if you stood her next to an average woman she would just look super tiny and painfully lean.

Exactly, which is why she's often mistaken for an anorexic when she goes out anywhere (she blogged/********ed about that a few times)

[KimPossible98]

Does she blog about her diet? I was curious as to what she eats since it looks like a lot of you don't agree with her diet.

[SexyChic]

Does she blog about her diet? I was curious as to what she eats since it looks like a lot of you don't agree with her diet.

You have to pay $25 or somewhere in that ball park for her diet

[fitlover]

Does she blog about her diet? I was curious as to what she eats since it looks like a lot of you don't agree with her diet.

I have her e-book. I can tell you straight off, it's VERY low fat, and there aren't any starchy carbs whatsoever. You eat literally POUNDS of veggies every day.

It's basically a vegetable and very lean protein diet with refeeds every now and then.

[KyleAaron]

When i read a fitness blog I want someone to motivate by getting me excited about lifting that heavy weight or encouraging. When i read her blogs i feel either berrated or down and unmotivated.

I agree, you have put into simple words what I was trying to figure out how to say. The way I see it, most people's physical limits are way up here, and their mental limits are a bit below that - for some there's a small gap, for others there's a big gap. As trainers - or article writer, I guess - it's our job to narrow that gap. Many people coming into the gym or to trainers are really lacking in self-confidence in that, "I might fail, but I might succeed! so I'll give it a go!" kind of spirit. A little encouragement goes a long way.

Just yesterday I was talking to a gym-goer, she was returning after a period of slacking off. She was on the leg press machine, one where the chair and your body move rather than a plate. She was pushing 15kg, and it was obviously very easy for her. I asked her about her goals, she wanted to "get in shape."

"Well, if you want your body to change, you must challenge it. Let's up the weight." I moved the peg to 55kg. And she did it. It wasn't easy - she didn't have to grind it out while screaming, but she wasn't cruising any more. I gave her tips on form and told her, "there you go, you did it, well done mate." And we kept chatting, then I gave her another set. Afterwards I complimented her on her strength.

So it's a step-by-step thing. Progressive resistance training means that in every session, we do more than we did before - more weight, more reps or more sets. It can be 0.25kg or 1 rep more, that's okay. It doesn't have to be straight up to state records in one session.

Likewise with the kind of workout the person is doing. This woman I spoke to was young and healthy, with good bodily awareness. So she was physically quite capable of barbell squats rather than the leg press. But one step at a time - she was already on the leg press, that was a step up from being on the couch. From the leg press to the squat rack was a very big step, from the leg press with 15kg to the leg press with 55kg was a smaller step, but still one which would help her.

She may or may not have been mentally capable of going from the leg press to the squat rack. With a trainer standing there, sure, no worries. But had I shown her, would she have done it again on her own? Judging from her surprised reaction to adding weight to the leg press, probably not. Since I was only acting as a gym instructor for her, not personal trainer, I had to amp it up to a level she was likely to stick with on her own. So just adding weight was enough. But that was in any case progress. She was doing more than she had done before.

Progress is progress, it doesn't have to be immediate progress to the top. And that's something missing from the writings of people like Nordin. With them, it's all or nothing - and if you're not all, you really are nothing.

Which is not to say that Nordin's approach is "the top" or anything like that.

I don't even think Jaime Koeppe should ever lean out!!

[SJBC]

On her blog she has pictures of when she was 19 and she calls herself fat. I think she looks her best there! Fit and beautiful with a little bit higher body fat.

[fitlover]

On her blog she has pictures of when she was 19 and she calls herself fat. I think she looks her best there! Fit and beautiful with a little bit higher body fat.

Absolutely!