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    Angry My battery-powered paperweight....

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    Only ONCE have I ever been THIS stupid!

    ***WARNING!! RANT in progress!***

    A friend gave me one of those 'smartbook' netbooks that he had bought on a whim. It had Windows CE (a.k.a. Windows Mobile now) and it was too 'limited' for his needs...

    After some goofing around I decided to try installing the Android system on it, and had tracked down info about 'how'...
    It didnt work.

    Found out that the unit REQUIRES a 2gb 'card' IOT respond to any 'update/upgrade' software on it.
    YAY!!! progress!

    But, after a while, I realized I had used a 'defective copy' and had to reacquire it...
    While doing that, I attempted to rerun the 1st copy and...

    tried to power-down before it 'got going'....

    The problem?

    The FIRST THING the Android install does is (for the PC-familiar users reading) is basically WIPE OUT the 'BIOS' and install a new one.

    It got to wipe it out... but POWERED DOWN before it re-wrote it!

    SO...
    I now have this nice, small, battery-powered paperweight. Due to its design I see no way to do anything but, possibly, send it back to China and see if they can 'boot' it again.

    I havent done anything THIS stupid (computerwise, at least) since I first attempted to get CP/M to do more than 'DIR'...

    I dont have a 'smiley' for **fuming** so...


    will have to do.

    /rant

    Cliffs:
    Wanted to get fancy with cheap netbook
    Messed up install software on first try
    Wiped brain of netbook 'playing around'
    Using netbook as fancy paperweight

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    No biggy. You should be able to download a BIOS recovery utility from the manufacturer for the netbook, throw it on a USB stick, boot up and recover.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    No biggy. You should be able to download a BIOS recovery utility from the manufacturer for the netbook, throw it on a USB stick, boot up and recover.
    Um... no.

    There is no 'BIOS' available to read the USB (or SD card) now...
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    Originally Posted by justboo2u View Post
    Um... no.

    There is no 'BIOS' available to read the USB (or SD card) now...
    Most modern motherboards have a BIOS recovery method. Google "mydigitallife bios recovery"
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    Those Windows CE Netbooks usually had what, 7" screens? So in other words it's not really a small underpowered computer as it is a large oversize phone, with out the ability to make phone calls! It's likely not worth as much as the paper you use it to hold down so if I were you I would take it out front and see how far it will fly!!

    But if thats not your plan the what desslok said!
    I'm a sad little man
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    Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    Those Windows CE Netbooks usually had what, 7" screens? So in other words it's not really a small underpowered computer as it is a large oversize phone, with out the ability to make phone calls! It's likely not worth as much as the paper you use it to hold down so if I were you I would take it out front and see how far it will fly!!

    But if thats not your plan the what desslok said!
    Actually, it is a NICE screen for only 7"... just right for viewing while in bed...

    Yes, I know... in the grand scheme of things, it makes for a passable 'clay pigeon'.
    What bothers me is the fact that:

    I made a mistake I KNEW I SHOULDNT and still allowed myself to do it.
    SUCH a rookie-brained thing to do...

    At least I have an excuse to try some 'frankensteining' now! Perhaps I can 'improve' it!
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Most modern motherboards have a BIOS recovery method. Google "mydigitallife bios recovery"
    Attempted that... found NOTHING for anything smaller than 'standard-PC-designed' systems...

    If you know otherwise, plz aware me.

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    Originally Posted by justboo2u View Post
    Attempted that... found NOTHING for anything smaller than 'standard-PC-designed' systems...

    If you know otherwise, plz aware me.

    What's the brand/model?
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    What's the brand/model?
    Elovo x6-7a

    There is no software available (AFAIK) for it...
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    This might help...

    http://www.ionai.com/support/elovo/c...books/a/x6-7e/

    (Maybe- its for the 7e)
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    Originally Posted by hochspeyer View Post
    This might help...

    http://www.ionai.com/support/elovo/c...books/a/x6-7e/

    (Maybe- its for the 7e)
    Unfortunately I've already hit all of those... once you actually 'ask' for it, THEN it tells you
    'They dont have 'em!'

    Thx tho! (greens on spread!)
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    Have you tried searching for the mobo or chipset maker rather than the netbook builder?
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    Originally Posted by hochspeyer View Post
    Have you tried searching for the mobo or chipset maker rather than the netbook builder?
    Well, I DID manage to find a 'homepage' for Elovo and now have an email address I can correspond to... perhaps it is possible to get it 'jumpstarted' at a reasonable cost...

    Which better be PRETTY DAYM CHEAP considering the machine itself!

    I HAVE been able to find Android OS s/w for it (which is where this circus started) and its WM8505 (ARM) -based hardware...

    Once I get home (from work) I'll blow them an email & see where it leads....


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    One other thought- I believe there a bunch of "live" Linux distros which will boot and run off of a memory stick without the need for installation. I think that pretty much taps my knowledge database- mobos are not my field of expertise.

    Good luck!
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    Originally Posted by hochspeyer View Post
    One other thought- I believe there a bunch of "live" Linux distros which will boot and run off of a memory stick without the need for installation. I think that pretty much taps my knowledge database- mobos are not my field of expertise.

    Good luck!
    Therein lies the other problem...

    That being, there (now) is no firmware to recognize/read the stick/SD slot...

    Ugh...
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    Did you trying smacking it a few times and hitting all of the buttons?
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    Did you trying smacking it a few times and hitting all of the buttons?
    I'm a sad little man
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    Originally Posted by SP1966 View Post
    Actually, this is the EXACT problem...

    I forced it to turn OFF without waiting for it to be ready...

    Im SOOOO SCROOOOD!

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    Well good luck with the manufacturer. I've had luck recovering corrupted BIOS on Acer, Intel, and Asus netbooks, but never that brand. If they can't help, next best bet I can think of is a forum for one of the ARM specific linux distros. Good luck.
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    Update...

    I found the info regarding the 'normal system' BIOS recovery...

    Once I get home I will attempt the 'CTRL-HOME' technique to see if it is similar...

    I will be 'cautiously optimistic'...


    EDIT:

    I am now aware of an ARM flash programming method that I can acquire, once I confirm that the board has the required connector. I dont remember seeing one the 1st time I had it open, but I wasnt concerned about that at the time...

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