If you took 1g of 1:500, you'd only need .5gran of LJ100.
It takes time to work... couple of weeks and def good..
Off course varies on age, current test levels.. etc
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Thread: Tongkat Ali-just buy it and now
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04-29-2009, 11:26 PM #211
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04-30-2009, 09:38 AM #212
>>I'm curious as to how much age plays a role in the effectiveness of this supplement. Those that are still in the 20s and still experiencing decent levels of test production may get more out of it. Those in their 30s to late 30s may have a different experience since on average, test levels drop when you hit that age. So would a product that is 'supposed' to encourage natural testosterone production really do any good? And what about people in their 40s and up when adding muscle becomes even more challenging unless you have very good genetics, you are doing a cycle or both?
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I think you've got this the wrong way round. TA is even more beneficial for older lifters as testosterone becomes bound by SHBG. Anything which can free-up this bound testosterone will have a profound effect. I'm 37 and 3 months into PCT my free testosterone was right at the top end of reference range for males of any age. This was from using 6g ed 1:50 Indonesian extract.
The other side of the coin is that TA may have very little benefit for young bucks with free testosterone levels already at top end of normal range. TA WILL NOT take testosterone levels to supraphysiological levels as steroids would.....there is an upper natural limit.
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Based on this reference which was mentioned in an earlier post, it sounds as if any TA product in the US is not worth the box it comes in. Plus you would have to pop so many caps that it exceeds the amount recommended. The research here says he took 1 gram of a 1:50 extract. That would equate to about 20 of the LJ100 caps if I did the math right!! I don't know how the 1:50 relates to the 1:100 so I could be off.
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As above, 6g ed 1:50 Indonesian extract. Can't comment on the LJ100 or any other TA product.
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09-24-2009, 11:57 AM #226
Bought 10 Grams from 'The Planet'....thoughts?
So I purchased 10 grams of LJ 100 from 'The Planet' - not sure what I was expecting but...well...for thirty buh' I guess I was expecting more...bulk? This amounts to a couple of teaspoons of powder. Feels...pricey...not sure.
From what I've read, dosing is like 1/4 teaspoon (1 gram?) one time per day? possibly cycled 5 on / 2 off? based on that I've got only 10 servings (2 weeks) at $3 per serving.
My initial reaction is that I was ripped-off (or perhaps better put that I didn't do my homework).
Thoughts?
Peace.
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11-12-2009, 06:51 PM #227
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For the LJ100, it is a highly concentrated extract... I could be off; but when I used it a while back (and it so happens I will be getting more again soon) I ingested 200-500mg/day (divided amongst 2 doses/day, first thing in the morning and pre-workout or early evening). From what I have read 200mg is considered a decent dose for LJ100. Of course many factors could cause this to vary amongst individuals. The little container lasted me over a month...though the container should be sealed in something in addition to itself like a ziploc bag- because it is freeze-dried (which is a good thing for its potency) the powder tends to cake up as it sits and is exposed to air over time. I noticed taking higher doses could be a lil much...wired/insomnia, aggression/agitation, excessive body-heat/dehydration, etc. I experienced good results in terms of body composition, workout intensity, and general stamina (also a libido enhancer- but could a lil too much in terms of increased desire if taken in higher doses). Mood/focus was enhanced most days too. Definitely cycle the 5 on/2 off, this will increase the effectiveness and the cost-effectiveness conveniently.MENS SANA EN CORPORE SANO~A SOUND MIND IN A SOUND BODY
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11-13-2009, 12:47 PM #228
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11-02-2010, 07:20 AM #230
is it fake?
Pangeran173, all your messages is only promoting indonesiaherbals.com ,nothing else and your name(pangeran) is coincidently is the same name with the founder of the indonesianherbals.com who I guess is you. I purchased some tongat ali from your site which smells like wooden ash to me. It is my 2nd day on it and I hope you are not offering me a bull**** which risks my health.
I have a doupt about your product because you just above mentioned that you bought that product from indonesiaherbals.com. please explain why someone buys a product from his own company?
Is anyone tried tongat ali ? is all powder extract smells like a burned wooden like mine? please help
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11-03-2010, 11:02 AM #231
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11-05-2010, 03:07 AM #232
Please don't make a bad sugestion. I know you create 2 accounts and more to defeats me. Pangeran173 is my customer (Pangeran Rudi Sibagariang) and now he is my reseller. And my name Pangeran Aryos (indonesiaherbals.com founder).
I know that you are too scared to compete with me. I don't want hear your bad motive. Please, let we do a clean competition. Without speak ill of my products. Let customers have a choice. Okay.
warm regards,
Pangeran Aryos
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11-05-2010, 05:13 AM #233
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03-06-2011, 04:23 PM #234
You may want to be careful with indonesiaherbals.com. They have been
widely reported as an illegal operation in the Indonesian media. See
link below for one such report that is also online:
medanbisnisdaily.com/news/read/2011/01/18/15697/diduga_herbal_ilegal_beredar_di_pasaran
Several more appeared only in printed editions. You can find them on
some photos if you look carefully enough.
What I have heard is that they refund all wholesale and retail
customers to ward off criminal procedures.
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03-06-2011, 06:21 PM #235
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03-22-2011, 04:44 PM #236
Old Fart (51yrs) just ordered
Description: Extract 1:200, 200 caps, 300 mg
From: Tongkatali Herbs
Merchant's cart ID: 200caps
Going to give it a try based on what I've read here (cycle on/off for 60 days) - mostly for gym, some in bedroom use.
I'm mature enough to monitor my bodies reactions to this stuff without givin you all abunch of HYPE!....I'll let you know what happens.....
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03-22-2011, 04:58 PM #237
It's anything but 1:200 tongkat ali extract.
Re: indonesiaherbals.com
The contraband of indonesiaherbals is a substance which they are selling as 1:200 tongkat ali extract, but is neither defined, nor controlled, nor tested fit for human consumption. It's anything but 1:200 tongkat ali extract.
source: h tp://dubioustongkatali.net
I would stay clear of indonesiaherbals.com
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03-23-2011, 08:54 AM #238
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03-23-2011, 09:50 AM #239
Tons of info out there, and yes there have been professional studies,,,just like investing "Do your own Due Diligence" ..make your own decision to try or not.... it's your body, time and money,,,,
There are some recommended products and suppliers in this thread, I purchased from source
w w.tongkatali.org
but just ordered yesterday and have not yet received.
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04-05-2011, 01:15 AM #240
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