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    If you took 1g of 1:500, you'd only need .5gran of LJ100.

    It takes time to work... couple of weeks and def good..

    Off course varies on age, current test levels.. etc
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    >>I'm curious as to how much age plays a role in the effectiveness of this supplement. Those that are still in the 20s and still experiencing decent levels of test production may get more out of it. Those in their 30s to late 30s may have a different experience since on average, test levels drop when you hit that age. So would a product that is 'supposed' to encourage natural testosterone production really do any good? And what about people in their 40s and up when adding muscle becomes even more challenging unless you have very good genetics, you are doing a cycle or both?
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    I think you've got this the wrong way round. TA is even more beneficial for older lifters as testosterone becomes bound by SHBG. Anything which can free-up this bound testosterone will have a profound effect. I'm 37 and 3 months into PCT my free testosterone was right at the top end of reference range for males of any age. This was from using 6g ed 1:50 Indonesian extract.

    The other side of the coin is that TA may have very little benefit for young bucks with free testosterone levels already at top end of normal range. TA WILL NOT take testosterone levels to supraphysiological levels as steroids would.....there is an upper natural limit.

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    Based on this reference which was mentioned in an earlier post, it sounds as if any TA product in the US is not worth the box it comes in. Plus you would have to pop so many caps that it exceeds the amount recommended. The research here says he took 1 gram of a 1:50 extract. That would equate to about 20 of the LJ100 caps if I did the math right!! I don't know how the 1:50 relates to the 1:100 so I could be off.
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    As above, 6g ed 1:50 Indonesian extract. Can't comment on the LJ100 or any other TA product.
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    Universal N1-T

    Any one tried this from Universal?

    Longjack 400 Complex 400mg
    Eurycoma Longifolia
    LJ-100?

    + other stuff

    I guess the question is how much of that 400mg is the potent LJ100? $24, 45 servings. What do people think?
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    Originally Posted by law2 View Post
    Any one tried this from Universal?

    Longjack 400 Complex 400mg
    Eurycoma Longifolia
    LJ-100?

    + other stuff

    I guess the question is how much of that 400mg is the potent LJ100? $24, 45 servings. What do people think?
    I didn't buy it for that reason. At that price I don't trust it's potency.
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    Wayner,It really increased free test alot,before taking it what was your free test back then was it mid-range or low-range?
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    I was curious to know if this was fine and safe for a 18 year old, or should I avoid it til' 21-23 +?

    ZMA product contains Tongkat Ali 50:1 Extract (Eurycoma Longifolia Jack)
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    I ordered 1:200 extract.. cost me 70US for 100caps - 300mg each!

    i'll let everyone know when I start using!
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    Anybody using it right now that would like to add how's it working.That would be great.
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    Hope I can get feedback!

    Originally Posted by frankie7 View Post
    I was curious to know if this was fine and safe for a 18 year old, or should I avoid it til' 21-23 +?

    ZMA product contains Tongkat Ali 50:1 Extract (Eurycoma Longifolia Jack)
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    Anybody using this right now?
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    Ordered 100:1 caps 2 days ago. should be geting them soon.
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    ebay! maybe not the best choice but it looks pretty legit>
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    Just got mine 2day . 60 caps of 1:100 tonkat ali . I put the cap in a bottle of water and drank it after it disolved ! f*** this **** taste like crap ! makes my tongue numb like coca.. i feel a lil diff not much but a lil more focused.
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    Any feedback from overseas sites selling 1:200 extract?
    I wanna pull the trigger on a potent product. I'm taking 12 testojacks a day right now
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    Bought 10 Grams from 'The Planet'....thoughts?

    So I purchased 10 grams of LJ 100 from 'The Planet' - not sure what I was expecting but...well...for thirty buh' I guess I was expecting more...bulk? This amounts to a couple of teaspoons of powder. Feels...pricey...not sure.

    From what I've read, dosing is like 1/4 teaspoon (1 gram?) one time per day? possibly cycled 5 on / 2 off? based on that I've got only 10 servings (2 weeks) at $3 per serving.

    My initial reaction is that I was ripped-off (or perhaps better put that I didn't do my homework).

    Thoughts?

    Peace.

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    Originally Posted by NbleSavage View Post
    So I purchased 10 grams of LJ 100 from 'The Planet' - not sure what I was expecting but...well...for thirty buh' I guess I was expecting more...bulk? This amounts to a couple of teaspoons of powder. Feels...pricey...not sure.

    From what I've read, dosing is like 1/4 teaspoon (1 gram?) one time per day? possibly cycled 5 on / 2 off? based on that I've got only 10 servings (2 weeks) at $3 per serving.

    My initial reaction is that I was ripped-off (or perhaps better put that I didn't do my homework).

    Thoughts?

    Peace.

    - Savage

    For the LJ100, it is a highly concentrated extract... I could be off; but when I used it a while back (and it so happens I will be getting more again soon) I ingested 200-500mg/day (divided amongst 2 doses/day, first thing in the morning and pre-workout or early evening). From what I have read 200mg is considered a decent dose for LJ100. Of course many factors could cause this to vary amongst individuals. The little container lasted me over a month...though the container should be sealed in something in addition to itself like a ziploc bag- because it is freeze-dried (which is a good thing for its potency) the powder tends to cake up as it sits and is exposed to air over time. I noticed taking higher doses could be a lil much...wired/insomnia, aggression/agitation, excessive body-heat/dehydration, etc. I experienced good results in terms of body composition, workout intensity, and general stamina (also a libido enhancer- but could a lil too much in terms of increased desire if taken in higher doses). Mood/focus was enhanced most days too. Definitely cycle the 5 on/2 off, this will increase the effectiveness and the cost-effectiveness conveniently.
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    Simian358,Did it really increase libido that much?
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    You can get the powder from ebay.

    Cap it yourself.

    Ecdy/turk with methoxy and Tongkat ali.

    I'm about to try this stack soon. Will post soon of results. probably do 4 weeks.
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    is it fake?

    Originally Posted by pangeran173 View Post
    I had tried tongkat ali. I think it works. I bought 600 mg of 200:1 tongkat ali from indonesiaherbals.com. it was pretty cheap with good quality. indonesiaherbals.com produce the best Tongkat Ali pure extract supplement. But if you're still not sure, you can compare it with other seller. Thank you.
    Pangeran173, all your messages is only promoting indonesiaherbals.com ,nothing else and your name(pangeran) is coincidently is the same name with the founder of the indonesianherbals.com who I guess is you. I purchased some tongat ali from your site which smells like wooden ash to me. It is my 2nd day on it and I hope you are not offering me a bull**** which risks my health.

    I have a doupt about your product because you just above mentioned that you bought that product from indonesiaherbals.com. please explain why someone buys a product from his own company?

    Is anyone tried tongat ali ? is all powder extract smells like a burned wooden like mine? please help
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    pangeran173

    Hey pangeran173 I guess you owe here a reply. Do not keep silence. no news is bad news.
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    Originally Posted by kaptan1 View Post
    Hey pangeran173 I guess you owe here a reply. Do not keep silence. no news is bad news.

    Please don't make a bad sugestion. I know you create 2 accounts and more to defeats me. Pangeran173 is my customer (Pangeran Rudi Sibagariang) and now he is my reseller. And my name Pangeran Aryos (indonesiaherbals.com founder).

    I know that you are too scared to compete with me. I don't want hear your bad motive. Please, let we do a clean competition. Without speak ill of my products. Let customers have a choice. Okay.

    warm regards,

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    Any updates on this product , any feed back about if this products deliveres what it promises ?
    As some things are too good to be true ,
    if it works just to increase test so Build Muscle mass
    And burn fat you wont need any other product
    drinu
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    You may want to be careful with indonesiaherbals.com. They have been
    widely reported as an illegal operation in the Indonesian media. See
    link below for one such report that is also online:

    medanbisnisdaily.com/news/read/2011/01/18/15697/diduga_herbal_ilegal_beredar_di_pasaran

    Several more appeared only in printed editions. You can find them on
    some photos if you look carefully enough.

    What I have heard is that they refund all wholesale and retail
    customers to ward off criminal procedures.
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    Old Fart (51yrs) just ordered

    Description: Extract 1:200, 200 caps, 300 mg
    From: Tongkatali Herbs
    Merchant's cart ID: 200caps

    Going to give it a try based on what I've read here (cycle on/off for 60 days) - mostly for gym, some in bedroom use.

    I'm mature enough to monitor my bodies reactions to this stuff without givin you all abunch of HYPE!....I'll let you know what happens.....
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    It's anything but 1:200 tongkat ali extract.

    Re: indonesiaherbals.com

    The contraband of indonesiaherbals is a substance which they are selling as 1:200 tongkat ali extract, but is neither defined, nor controlled, nor tested fit for human consumption. It's anything but 1:200 tongkat ali extract.

    source: h tp://dubioustongkatali.net

    I would stay clear of indonesiaherbals.com
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    is there any science behind this product / or is it just a bogus item ?
    If its worth a try ?
    any genuine sellers that sell this product on E- bay europe ?
    drinu
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    Originally Posted by apace View Post
    is there any science behind this product / or is it just a bogus item ?
    If its worth a try ?
    any genuine sellers that sell this product on E- bay europe ?
    Tons of info out there, and yes there have been professional studies,,,just like investing "Do your own Due Diligence" ..make your own decision to try or not.... it's your body, time and money,,,,

    There are some recommended products and suppliers in this thread, I purchased from source

    w w.tongkatali.org

    but just ordered yesterday and have not yet received.
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    indonesiaherbals, haha. That is a scam. Just search Google for:
    dubious tongkat ali
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