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    Originally Posted by ArabPrince View Post
    Sit the **** down kid dont give bull**** advice, your 20, im willing to bet you've done more then enough cycles to last a mad man. Id rather have his broscience then close my epithelial plates, lose my libidio and get a nice pair of bitch tits, like the ones in your dp (oh yes i can see them).
    Tried to neg, but on spread. Someone hit this idiot for me.
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Tried to neg, but on spread. Someone hit this idiot for me.
    Wow your scaring me, lol 6'4.
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    Originally Posted by arabprince View Post
    sit the **** down kid dont give bull**** advice, your 20, im willing to bet you've done more then enough cycles to last a mad man. Id rather have his broscience then close my epithelial plates, lose my libidio and get a nice pair of bitch tits, like the ones in your dp (oh yes i can see them).
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Tried to neg, but on spread. Someone hit this idiot for me.
    Already got him earlier. The weird thing is he negged me back saying my neg didn't bother him.
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    Originally Posted by ArabPrince View Post
    Sit the **** down kid dont give bull**** advice, your 20, im willing to bet you've done more then enough cycles to last a mad man. Id rather have his broscience then close my epithelial plates, lose my libidio and get a nice pair of bitch tits, like the ones in your dp (oh yes i can see them).
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    Most of the doubters are guys under 200 pounds. At 180 I needed 3000 calories to grow, at 190 I needed 3500, at 200 I needed 4000, 210 4500, at 220 I need 5000, and at 230 I need about 6,000 calories to gain any weight. With a 44 year old metabolism and 12-15% bodyfat. If you do the math here it's more and more food with the more muscle you have to maintain that weight and grow further. Not hard at ALL for me to believe someone on all the gear, slin and HGH at 270, training insane volume & doing cardio might need 8-9k a day to grow. Not hard at all.
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    Originally Posted by joel h View Post
    most of the doubters are guys under 200 pounds. At 180 i needed 3000 calories to grow, at 190 i needed 3500, at 200 i needed 4000, 210 4500, at 220 i need 5000, and at 230 i need about 6,000 calories to gain any weight. With a 44 year old metabolism and 12-15% bodyfat. If you do the math here it's more and more food with the more muscle you have to maintain that weight and grow further. Not hard at all for me to believe someone on all the gear, slin and hgh at 270, training insane volume & doing cardio might need 8-9k a day to grow. Not hard at all.
    r0nnie c0leman was dieting 0n 4,000 cal0ries a day and able t0 maintain his b0dy weight 0f ab0ut 280 lbs 0f lean muscle mass. Kevin levr0ne was able t0 gr0w int0 the sh0w 0n ab0ut that many cal0ries t00. N0w if they need that much t0 maintain, they d0n't need an extra 5,000 t0 gr0w.
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    Originally Posted by tryin2gethuge10 View Post
    Haha, this x 1000

    Don't worry DP, not all of us young guys are as stupid as him.
    You are vip on AB and you are bashing me? lol

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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    Not as a regular diet. He says he ate that many cals on one particular day, and I still believe it to be a lie.
    I believe you missed my sarcasm
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Tried to neg, but on spread. Someone hit this idiot for me.
    i negged him, then he hit me back with a blue which i assume was a neg, saying "bye". hopefully that means he wont come back



    btw like ive heard branch and numerous other pros say before, they dont keep to the exact same diet or workout everyday. so when they post something like this, it cant be considered his constant diet. do you really think he would eat a cheat meal everyday?
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    I bulk on roughly 3500 at my weight and my diet isn't exactly fantastic. I have no doubt Phil could have that many in a day, but it doesn't mean he does every single day.
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    Q: How high would you increase your calories in the off-season?

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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    I bulk on roughly 3500 at my weight and my diet isn't exactly fantastic. I have no doubt Phil could have that many in a day, but it doesn't mean he does every single day.
    If you were 265 lbs you would only need 378 extra calories a day to maintain that bodyweight compared to your current 180 lb (BMR)

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    I really can't believe this and I think that this isn't true.
    I think they wanted to show what it takes to be a pro and how you get this big (but we all know how the pros got their muscles).
    2 years ago I read an article about Markus Ruhl and he said that he eats about 6000 calories in offseason and he weights 325lbs. and not 270lbs. so this would be over 3000 calories more than Markus Ruhl eats although Phil is 55lbs lighter. That's not true in my eyes.

    It's the same with training. Some pros say in interviews they train 7 days a week and 4 hours a day (in offseason). This isnt't true too. They maybe train 5-6 times a week and maybe 2 hours a day in offseason.

    I think all those unbelievable statements about how often (7 times) and how long (4 hours) pros train and how much they eat( 9000 cal.) in offseason are lies. They say that so that normal guys like you and me think that they are natural athletes and all their muscles come from that hard training and the loads off food they eat all day long.
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    Originally Posted by SLiX View Post
    If you were 265 lbs you would only need 378 extra calories a day to maintain that bodyweight compared to your current 180 lb (BMR)

    I just blew your mind
    My stats are old but that's maintenance not bulking and if you're trying to get in a lot of protein the calories easily add up.
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    Originally Posted by MisterA. View Post
    I think all those unbelievable statements about how often (7 times) and how long (4 hours) pros train and how much they eat( 9000 cal.) in offseason are lies. They say that so that normal guys like you and me think that they are natural athletes and all their muscles come from that hard training and the loads off food they eat all day long.
    Their sponsors benefit from pros if they use their products mostly, not becase they say pros eat food.

    And why is this so hard to believe? I wont take sides on this one, just saying i wouldn't be surprised at all if it was true.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    My stats are old but that's maintenance not bulking and if you're trying to get in a lot of protein the calories easily add up.
    he'd maybe need 900 - 1000 calories more than you..

    though certainly nowhere near 9000
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    Originally Posted by SLiX View Post
    he'd maybe need 900 - 1000 calories more than you..

    though certainly nowhere near 9000
    I'm going to chose to believe he can eat that in a day. They are that many variables to take into account.
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    Originally Posted by Joel H View Post
    Most of the doubters are guys under 200 pounds. At 180 I needed 3000 calories to grow, at 190 I needed 3500, at 200 I needed 4000, 210 4500, at 220 I need 5000, and at 230 I need about 6,000 calories to gain any weight. With a 44 year old metabolism and 12-15% bodyfat. If you do the math here it's more and more food with the more muscle you have to maintain that weight and grow further. Not hard at ALL for me to believe someone on all the gear, slin and HGH at 270, training insane volume & doing cardio might need 8-9k a day to grow. Not hard at all.
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    Q: How high would you increase your calories in the off-season?

    Dorian Yates :The highest I ever went in the off-season was about 6000 calories. And I generally went below 4000 for a contest.


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    DY is a horrible example. He also claimed to be training 3 hours per week in prep for a contest vs other guys doing that per day. Worked for him. Same thing can be said for diet. Does DY know how much food phil needs per day to maintain what he has while simultaniously adding muscle? No, only phil & his trainer does.
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    That is VERY out there for a daily diet in the offseason. For a post contest binge - fuk no it isn't.
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    Could anyone explain to me what exactly are yams ? and sirilion, some kind of fish ?
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    okay, I think most of you are missing the point that this is not EVERY DAY... That diet includes 2 optional meals! one of them 2,400 Cals the other 800 Cals. That knocks off 3,200 calories right there briniging his totals down near 7,000 off season regularly.

    I know that My 170's lb natural self eats a MINIMUM of 4,000 Calories a day when bulking and I only gain about 1lb every 2 weeks off that.

    believable, yes.

    EDIT: lol I can only imagine the thermogenic effect of all that damn food...
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    Could anyone explain to me what exactly are yams ? and sirilion, some kind of fish ?
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    They're sweet potatoes. And sirloin is steak.
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    scrolled thru 4 pages of nonsense and no response from phil. dayum

    i remember this one poster on here cnt remember his name but he went from super skinny to super stacked and was claiming eating 6k a day to grow and he was no where near phils size/condition so i could believe 8-9k
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    No way he east 9.5k calories a day. When most pros talk about how much they eat, they are usually saying something along the lines of 5-6k a day. And Phil is not exactly a 300lb Ronnie Coleman, so there is no reason for him to consume so much more than other pros. No doubt he could manage that in a day, but there is no way it's every day.

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    Not sure how many calories per hour a human can process
    Oh, you mean like metabolism? The thing that differs immensely from person to person? Yeah, good luck trying to find an average buddy.
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