People telling me I don't eat enough, yet....

[SwollenSquirrel]

I've started going to the gym early this year, on Jan 3rd. Ever since then I've been eating way more than I previously did, gaining 16.5 lbs in 7 weeks, yet a lot of people keep telling me that I'm not eating enough when I show them my diet. I'm bulking.

Morning
100g Oats
40g Perfect Whey Protein Isolate
5g Creatine Monohydrate
500ml 3% Milk
Banana

Afternoon
4 Slices of brown bread with 100g chicken fillet + 2 large baked eggs
4 Slices of brown bread with peanut butter
2 Slices of rye bread
40g Perfect Whey Protein Isolate
500ml 3% milk
Banana
Apple

Dinner
Usually 2 plates of: Spaghetti/Rice/Potatoes+Vegetables+Meat/Chinese Food. (No french fries and **** like that.)

Late Evening
500ml low fat quark

*A typical day includes me drinking about 1.5-2 litres of water and some random other fruits, such as: tangerines, kiwi's and oranges.

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Calories / Protein / Carbohydrates / Fats

100g Oats - 350/11/65/2.1
80g Perfect Whey Protein Isolate - 269/68/1.8/0.6
5g Creatine Monohydrate - ???
1000ml 3% Milk - 480/36/46/15
2 Bananas - 172/2.4/37.6/0.4
8 Slices of brown bread - 592/20/104.8/6,4
2 Slices of rye bread - 200/5.5/36/2
100g chicken fillet - 111/18/3/3
2 large baked eggs - 164/14/0/12
60g peanut butter - 396/12.6/6.8/34.8
500ml low fat quark - 215/45/17.5/0.5

Total (excluding dinner): 2949/232.5/318.5/76.8
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Dinner

My question is:
Should I upgrade my diet, or am I progressing at a sufficient rate?





Here's a before and after picture:

[psychodiver9]

If you are truly gaining 2lbs a week then there is no need to bump cals

[jnbrk]

2 lbs a week is too much. It is called getting fat.

[tokelift]

2 lbs a week is too much. It is called getting fat.

Gonna have to agree with this guy. :/ 2lbs a month would be better, although it's up to you. What are your macros?

[tailwhip]

why the hell do you eat so much bread? 16 slices of bread? you go through a loaf a day?

[blindspot13]

How are you 6'4 191 and still have so much fat around your stomach? You sure thats your weight/height?

[pandaohyea]

Pretty sure you are getting too much carbs, but if you are bulking and gaining muscle then ccrew everybody keep doing what you are doing.

[pandaohyea]

How are you 6'4 191 and still have so much fat around your stomach? You sure thats your weight/height?

Not enough muscle mass to burn of the waist, at least thats what it looks like

[tailwhip]

Pretty sure you are getting too much carbs, but if you are bulking and gaining muscle then ccrew everybody keep doing what you are doing.

no..

5'11 280. your doing it wrong

[SwollenSquirrel]

How are you 6'4 191 and still have so much fat around your stomach? You sure thats your weight/height?

As I've said, I had troubles uploading my current picture to this thread. What you were looking at was my "Before" picture, taken 7 weeks ago. - I've managed to add the "after" picture to the OP.

I'm at 6'4 / 207.5 lbs now.

why the hell do you eat so much bread? 16 slices of bread? you go through a loaf a day?

Cutting down the bread consumption will suffice?



Just a small note: I know I can optimize this diet plan in various different ways, though, I'm not in a position to do so.
This is the last year I'll be living at my mother's. Regarding extra supplements, this is the best I can do.

[SwollenSquirrel]

Don't know if this gets rid of any confusion:

I'm bulking.

[Makween]

Read the stickies, calculate your macros and check your diet against those.

[psychodiver9]

2 lbs a week is too much. It is called getting fat.

Not necessarily. He could have had a large initial spike in glycogen/water gain when initiating the surplus

[SwollenSquirrel]

Not necessarily. He could have had a large initial spike in glycogen/water gain when initiating the surplus

I've been taking 5g of Creatine Monohydrate daily. Could this be causing the initial large (water) gain?

[psychodiver9]

I've been taking 5g of Creatine Monohydrate daily. Could this be causing the initial large (water) gain?

It would contribute

[SwollenSquirrel]

Thank you all for your advice, I've taken out some bread from my diet plan.

From what I understand this is happening:
-I'm a beginner, my body is still adjusting to the big change in food consumption prior to excercising (slow metabolism - fat storage),
-I'm taking in too many carbohydrates (bread),
-My body is storing large quantities of water (creatine),


I'm just hoping that at least a small portion of those 16.5 lbs consists of muscle!

There should be, and I feel alot stronger / better, that's for sure.

[orangegoblin]

I might have missed it...did you post your calculate daily calorie expenditure? And how many calories you are actually consuming?

[Makween]

No, he didn't, and nor did he respond to my post asking him to.

[SwollenSquirrel]

No, he didn't, and nor did he respond to my post asking him to.

Read the stickies, calculate your macros and check your diet against those.

My bad, I must have overlooked the hidden question.

I might have missed it...did you post your calculate daily calorie expenditure? And how many calories you are actually consuming?

No, I did not. I haven´t done so for a bunch of stupid reasons, which I now realize.

As I just came home from a long night, I will do so, first thing in the morning.

[SwollenSquirrel]

Calories / Protein / Carbohydrates / Fats

100g Oats - 350/11/65/2.1
80g Perfect Whey Protein Isolate - 269/68/1.8/0.6
5g Creatine Monohydrate - ???
1000ml 3% Milk - 480/36/46/15
2 Bananas - 172/2.4/37.6/0.4
8 Slices of brown bread - 592/20/104.8/6,4
2 Slices of rye bread - 200/5.5/36/2
100g chicken fillet - 111/18/3/3
2 large baked eggs - 164/14/0/12
60g peanut butter - 396/12.6/6.8/34.8
500ml low fat quark - 215/45/17.5/0.5

Total (excluding dinner): 2949/232.5/318.5/76.8
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Dinner


*Tweaked the milk intake to better reflect the actual consumption.

[Makween]

My bad, I must have overlooked the hidden question.

Good luck with your goals.

[SwollenSquirrel]

Good luck with your goals.

Thank you!

I really do appreciate all the help I can get, even if it might be hard to notice.

I probably should have just added the list of nutrients from the beginning, forgive me.