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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    We are not comparing the later guys with 70's arnold. We are comparing later guys with what arnold could have become. Thats the point of the thread.

    Also, who are these guys that weighted 270lbs+ with smaller waists than arnold?
    Dillett, at 270 with a waist under 30, young Nasser in 94. yates at 257pounds, guys who were much shorter than 6ft2 and still weighed 245-250 like Levrone. And yes we are looking at what Arnold could have become, and that is probably a 36 inch waist( his waist was 32 and over during the 70s) his legs would have been around 29/30 had he competed later on with the best drugs avaliable. He really struggled with his legs, they were long.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Dillett
    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and worships Dillet like a duck...
    People these days have more reps than brain cells
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and worships Dillet like a duck...
    What abt the others?
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    What abt the others?
    I definitely have a very hard time believing dillets waist was under 30 inches...as a matter of fact i simply don't believe.

    So basically at the 270's category we only have dillet as a possibility.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    What abt the others?
    Let me set things straight here - had Arnold put on more weight, it would have made his waist larger...along with everything else. And i'm sure you've noticed the rest of his physique can be pretty good.

    What you're imagining is him becoming Palumbo.
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    No, he was not all about symmetry and proportions. Actually, what made him stand out against his competition was his size. He did not have better proportions than many from that time, namely zane. Symmetry was a given in those days, most were very symmetric...arnold definetly didn't stood out in that department.

    Arnold was a winner above all. If he wanted to win in say colemans prime era, he would have to add a lot of size. With significant size at that point comes significant waist growth. His waist was not good to begin with, and it would only get worst.
    He did not have a Brian Buchanan waist, but he had flat abs and he knew how to pose to hide his waist. I am pretty confident, although obviously this is all speculation based on what I have read about him and of him, that he would not EVER have gone the GH belly route. I am pretty sure he would have added mass to his hammies, forearms, triceps, and shoulders, maybe some more back mass.

    Seriously, he was only about 33 in 1980 and I figure he weighed 225-230 in 80 and 235-240 in 74/75. He probably could have kept going another 10 years or so and could have easily added 15-25 pounds of muscle.

    With Arnold's look I don't see even Lee Haney touching him. I take Arnold all the way through the 80s if he had chose to compete.

    Arnold most likely would have given up bodybuilding when it became a freak show.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and worships Dillet like a duck...
    Dillet? JLD, when you are done worshipping Dillet, recognize he has one of the ugliest mass monster bodies in the history of bodybuilding. I am specifically referring to the web of varicose veins running across his delts and chest.

    I am not an IFBB judge, nor do I assume to know how to score a contest, but I am pretty confident that he did not dominate because his veins were displeasing to the judges.

    Oh yeah, BB is more a beauty contest and less a sport when it comes to the actual contest. See Branch Warren.

    So, Arnold, with his pleasing lines, and pleasing veins, although not as massive as Paul, would IMO, beat him.
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    Originally Posted by Nuclear_Warrior View Post
    Dillet? JLD, when you are done worshipping Dillet, recognize he has one of the ugliest mass monster bodies in the history of bodybuilding. I am specifically referring to the web of varicose veins running across his delts and chest.

    I am not an IFBB judge, nor do I assume to know how to score a contest, but I am pretty confident that he did not dominate because his veins were displeasing to the judges.

    Oh yeah, BB is more a beauty contest and less a sport when it comes to the actual contest. See Branch Warren.

    So, Arnold, with his pleasing lines, and pleasing veins, although not as massive as Paul, would IMO, beat him.
    So, a troll.
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    Originally Posted by Nuclear_Warrior View Post
    Dillet? JLD, when you are done worshipping Dillet, recognize he has one of the ugliest mass monster bodies in the history of bodybuilding. I am specifically referring to the web of varicose veins running across his delts and chest.

    I am not an IFBB judge, nor do I assume to know how to score a contest, but I am pretty confident that he did not dominate because his veins were displeasing to the judges.

    Oh yeah, BB is more a beauty contest and less a sport when it comes to the actual contest. See Branch Warren.

    So, Arnold, with his pleasing lines, and pleasing veins, although not as massive as Paul, would IMO, beat him.
    You see what you did Unbiasedfan and Groggery, i hope you proud of yourselves, you jsut unleashed the perfect idiot onto this thread. lol, im outta here.
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    You see what you did Unbiasedfan and Groggery, i hope you proud of yourselves, you jsut unleashed the perfect idiot onto this thread. lol, im outta here.
    I was gonna say he's not my responsibility, but i wanted your reaction first.
    People these days have more reps than brain cells
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    I was gonna say he's not my responsibility, but i wanted your reaction first.
    Its on the both of you, and hes 39, mind blown
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    Some people are far too obsessed with waist sizes..
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    Some people are far too obsessed with waist sizes..
    Waist sizes matter...a lot.
    You must be looking for mass only right?
    Waist size proportions the body from a lot of angles.
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    Originally Posted by doza808 View Post
    this
    You cannot be serious. We are talking about the biggest freak to ever grace the bb'ing stage. Probably the best genetics ever as well.
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    Waist sizes matter...a lot.
    You must be looking for mass only right?
    Waist size proportions the body from a lot of angles.
    Of course it matters, some people in here are putting far too much emphasis on it though.


    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    You cannot be serious. We are talking about the biggest freak to ever grace the bb'ing stage. Probably the best genetics ever as well.
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    Its on the both of you, and hes 39, mind blown
    How am I trolling? I am not insulting or attacking? So what if I am 39?

    By the way, your back looks much wider given that you are squeezing in your love handles. Do they come together in the front? <-- This is being ironic for the literary device impaired.
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    Please stop embarrassing yourself.
    What are you talking about? Nothing I said there was out of line or absurd. Please leave.
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    Originally Posted by Nuclear_Warrior View Post
    How am I trolling? I am not insulting or attacking? So what if I am 39?

    By the way, your back looks much wider given that you are squeezing in your love handles. Do they come together in the front?
    Attacking someone's picture.. Classy
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    What are you talking about? Nothing I said there was out of line or absurd. Please leave.
    You said Sergio was the biggest freak ever..freakier than Arnold? With his out of proportion arms and tiny waist..perhaps. Better? Hell no. Freakier? Maybe.

    But Sergio freakier than this?



    or this?



    or this?



    pls go..
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    Originally Posted by Larfleeze View Post
    You said Sergio was the biggest freak ever..because Sergio is freakier than this..



    or this..



    or this..



    pls go..
    Actually, if you re-read I said "former and current pro's claim he was about the freakiest thing they have ever seen." C'mon, please go. You are doing nothing here but trying to stir things up.
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    Attacking someone's picture.. Classy
    I was being ironic after being called out as a troll, by a troll.
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    Can we agree he'd get his pro card and end up somewhere in the top 10 at the O then? Somewhere doesn't necessarily mean top 5 either. Seems reasonable for Arnold.
    so are you saying Arnold would not beat branch even with todays knowledge?
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    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    Actually, if you re-read I said "former and current pro's claim he was about the freakiest thing they have ever seen." C'mon, please go. You are doing nothing here but trying to stir things up.
    Originally Posted by trulyhuge1 View Post
    You cannot be serious. We are talking about the biggest freak to ever grace the bb'ing stage. Probably the best genetics ever as well.
    ..you are either a troll or the biggest idiot on these boards.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Can we agree he'd get his pro card and end up somewhere in the top 10 at the O then? Somewhere doesn't necessarily mean top 5 either. Seems reasonable for Arnold.
    do you think he'd beat Wolf, #3 in the world?
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    Originally Posted by SammyJr View Post
    do you think he'd beat Wolf, #3 in the world?
    74 Arnold would give him a good run. Equal conditioning, Arnie has better symmetry, but wolf does have more mass in his quads than Arnie has on his entire physique! Could go either way.

























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    Originally Posted by SammyJr View Post
    do you think he'd beat Wolf, #3 in the world?
    The only thing Arnold really had over the current world number 3 Dennis Wolf is calves and peak on his guns.

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    Originally Posted by ROMMYromboid View Post
    The only thing Arnold really had over the current world number 3 Dennis Wolf is calves and peak on his guns.

    Current world #3 Wolf back in 2007 (joint uncrowned Mr O) would destroy Arnold, even world #3 Wolf's recent showing where he beat Roden would be too much for Arnold.
    Arnold's biceps and chest are twice the size of wolf's. Arnold's proportions are also far superior. If they competed together, wolf would have all his clothes stolen and tricked into eating a box of cookies before getting on stage.
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    Originally Posted by ROMMYromboid View Post
    Current world #3 Wolf back in 2007 (joint uncrowned Mr O) would destroy Arnold, even world #3 Wolf's recent showing where he beat Roden would be too much for Arnold.
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    arnold would look something like gunter , just bigger IMO ... that veiny grainy look
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