How long should you not eat before sleeping??

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 01:32 PM

I try to eat every 2-3 hours to keep my metabolism up and going... but I try not to eat for about 5 hours before sleeping because my cousin said it was bad for you, and i trust her because she's a doctor... but she's not a nutritionist so i'm sure you guys probably know better than her, if you go longer than 3 hours without eating your body starts to eat your muscle for sustenance and i CAN'T afford to lose any more muscle.. so how long do you guys think i should not eat before sleeping?? these days i eat my last meal at about 9.. and go to sleep at about 2 or 3... I'm sure im LOSING muscle like this and i don't want that.. but i'm afraid if i eat closer to when i sleep, i may add fat... HELP ME

**theACEofSPADES** · 07-26-2007, 01:49 PM

Not eat for 5 hours before sleeping?! Thats crazy, I have never done that before and I'm in great shape. I usually eat dinner around 8PM to 9PM (big dinner) and I usually go to sleep around 12AM to 1AM.

But, thats just dinner, inbetween there I usaully make a peanutbutter and banana sandwhich with a bottled water. And 1 hour before I sleep I drink a Protein shake (whey) and eat an orange. And I am seeing pretty good gains.

But everybodies different, if I dont eat 5 hours before sleeping I would probably pass out from hunger or not be able to sleep.

**cbogetto** · 07-26-2007, 01:54 PM

I agree. I take a casein protein shake just before I go to bed. If you don't eat for 5 hrs before you go to bed, then say sleep 7 hrs, thats 12 hrs/half the day right there that you are not feeding your muscles. You would be lucky to see any significant gains that way. Some people get up in the middle of the night to have another shake. I wouldn't recommend that unless you are a pro, but I would definitely say you need to eat just before you go to sleep. Some low fat cottage cheese, natural peanut butter or some form of slow digesting protein is great.

**RU4A69** · 07-26-2007, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by daklog

I try to eat every 2-3 hours to keep my metabolism up and going... but I try not to eat for about 5 hours before sleeping because my cousin said it was bad for you, and i trust her because she's a doctor... but she's not a nutritionist so i'm sure you guys probably know better than her, if you go longer than 3 hours without eating your body starts to eat your muscle for sustenance[ and i CAN'T afford to lose any more muscle.. so how long do you guys think i should not eat before sleeping?? these days i eat my last meal at about 9.. and go to sleep at about 2 or 3... I'm sure im LOSING muscle like this and i don't want that.. but i'm afraid if i eat closer to when i sleep, i may add fat... HELP ME

WTF gave you notion? Sounds like some bull**** from a supplement company.
Eat when you're hungry. Xtreme macro/micro deficits, and overuse/underuse of muscles cause atrophy; not 3 friggin' hours.

**JiP** · 07-26-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by daklog

I try to eat every 2-3 hours to keep my metabolism up and going... but I try not to eat for about 5 hours before sleeping because my cousin said it was bad for you, and i trust her because she's a doctor... but she's not a nutritionist so i'm sure you guys probably know better than her, if you go longer than 3 hours without eating your body starts to eat your muscle for sustenance and i CAN'T afford to lose any more muscle.. so how long do you guys think i should not eat before sleeping?? these days i eat my last meal at about 9.. and go to sleep at about 2 or 3... I'm sure im LOSING muscle like this and i don't want that.. but i'm afraid if i eat closer to when i sleep, i may add fat... HELP ME

tell your cousin to STFU

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 01:58 PM

can you guys link me to a site online where i can buy some nice casein protein??? thanks!!

**liftingbuddy1** · 07-26-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by daklog

can you guys link me to a site online where i can buy some nice casein protein??? thanks!!

Dude, Bodybuilding.com is a site that you can buy casein protein.

Mike

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 02:06 PM

thanks for all your advice

**stracin** · 07-26-2007, 02:13 PM

I eat right before bed; fall asleep with full stomach. Just sayin.........

**W8isGR8** · 07-26-2007, 02:15 PM

The Dogma and broscience are strong in this thread

**knowles.ja** · 07-26-2007, 02:15 PM

A good rule of thumb is to stop eating about 30 seconds before you go to bed. Just enough time to brush your teeth.

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 02:17 PM

lmao!

**ktj4l** · 07-26-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by daklog

can you guys link me to a site online where i can buy some nice casein protein??? thanks!!

Go to your grocery store. Buy cottage cheese.

**W8isGR8** · 07-26-2007, 02:19 PM

Hot damn I love this place. How did we ever survive as a species "eating when we're hungry"?

Thank you BB.com, for single-handedly snatching the human race from the jaws of extinction.

**HATETANK** · 07-26-2007, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by W8isGR8

The Dogma and broscience are strong in this thread

Broscience made me lol...

**W8isGR8** · 07-26-2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by HATETANK

Broscience made me lol...

Bro, you gotta eat cottage cheese and peanut butter before bed or you'll go catabawlic and the bicepts will atrophy

**:::JMANN:::** · 07-26-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by knowles.ja

A good rule of thumb is to stop eating about 30 seconds before you go to bed. Just enough time to brush your teeth.

sure is. i always eat right before bed! though i usually skip brushing my teeth......j/k

**Starz** · 07-26-2007, 03:20 PM

they have brushes for teeth?

**:::JMANN:::** · 07-26-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Starz

they have brushes for teeth?

they're not for your teeth silly, they're for scrubbing the toilet bowl. duh!

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 04:07 PM

to give you guys more insight on my situation, i used to be a really big guy, 245 pounds, but im trying to slim down, i currently weigh 195 and im trying to maintain my current muscle while losing the fat, i do cardio atleast 5 times a week, weight training for about that too, ill take you guys advice, thanks for helping

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 04:08 PM

of course i wouldn't mind adding muscle while losing fat either.. but i'm pretty sure that's not plausible, as to gain muscle you have an excess of calories, and to lost fat you have to have less calories.... unless i'm wrong?? enlighten me, i'm a n00b

**daklog** · 07-26-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by RU4A69

WTF gave you notion? Sounds like some bull**** from a supplement company.
Eat when you're hungry. Xtreme macro/micro deficits, and overuse/underuse of muscles cause atrophy; not 3 friggin' hours.

sorry but i've read alot of things that say the opposite... in terms of keeping your metabolism boosted.. no offense though, i'm a noob

**RU4A69** · 07-26-2007, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by daklog

sorry but i've read alot of things that say the opposite... in terms of keeping your metabolism boosted.. no offense though, i'm a noob

I know that eating boosts metabolism. I'm saying that 3 hours w/o food does not=catabolism, and I'm saying he shouldn't starve himself before bed.

**BabyBodybuilder** · 07-26-2007, 05:05 PM

Going to add something serious to this thread, that's not based on "brosicence"..

The only thing you should worry about when eating before bed. Is if you're taking in a significant amount of carbs, you should wait an hour before hitting the sack. The reasoning behind this is. When we sleep, it takes about 90min (1:30h) for our bodies to reach deep sleep (REM or IV). During this time, our bodies release a hormone called Human Growth Hormone (hGH) which is a very important hormone for... growth.

This is where carbohydrates (CHO) comes into play. Right before hGH is released, the body release a hormone to check the blood stream for any glucose (simple form of carbohydrates). If this hormone detects that there is glucose in the blood stream, it will blunt the release of hGH. This is a bad thing.

So, just make sure if you're ingesting any carbs before bed. That you give a good hour before hitting the sake, so you get about 150min (2:30h) for the carbs to work there way out of your system.

Hope this helped!

**BabyBodybuilder** · 07-26-2007, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by RU4A69

I know that eating boosts metabolism. I'm saying that 3 hours w/o food does not=catabolism, and I'm saying he shouldn't starve himself before bed.

Wrong. Bigger meals cause more of a thermogenic effect, and smaller meals cause a smaller thermogenic effect. Which meals weather your eating 6 small meals a day or 3 big ones, the effect will be the same

**BabyBodybuilder** · 07-26-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by daklog

of course i wouldn't mind adding muscle while losing fat either.. but i'm pretty sure that's not plausible, as to gain muscle you have an excess of calories, and to lost fat you have to have less calories.... unless i'm wrong?? enlighten me, i'm a n00b

It's possible, but probably one of the hared things to do related to Bodybuilding. Try searching for recomposition.

**RU4A69** · 07-26-2007, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by BabyBodybuilder

Wrong. Bigger meals cause more of a thermogenic effect, and smaller meals cause a smaller thermogenic effect. Which meals weather your eating 6 small meals a day or 3 big ones, the effect will be the same

I am aware that eating boosts metabolism

**BabyBodybuilder** · 07-26-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by RU4A69

I am aware that eating boosts metabolism

Oh! Sorry, I misunderstood. I was skimming the thread, and put 3hours and boost metabolism together.

Sorry

**W8isGR8** · 07-26-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by BabyBodybuilder

Right before hGH is released, the body release a hormone to check the blood stream for any glucose (simple form of carbohydrates).

What is is this magic hormone called? Glucose Sensing Growth Hormone Precurser?

**daklog** · 07-27-2007, 10:17 AM

i ate cottage cheese before sleeping last night, that **** was gross
has the consistency of puke
yuck...

time to buy some powders...

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