For those that claim bodybuilding is healthy?

[fit4life1991]

Please explain that to me. It is actually one of the top reasons why I do not want to continue lifting for extended periods of time, because I don't want to die young because of my health habits at a younger age. I eat extremely clean, but a high calorie, high protein diet is not even remotely good for your health.

I can understand how it is healthy for some people, if the alternative is being overweight or obese, but for someone like myself that I can 100% GUARENTEE will never be overweight for a second of my life (I struggle to eat over 1.5k calories a day, although I still force over 3k into my mouth), larger calorie consumption is very taxing on all of your organs, and particular the liver from the protein consumption. I know that the key to longevity is a low calorie intake (with moderate weight training and cardio), but I also don't particularly care to look like bones like I have my whole life so I force food down my throat.

I just really want to hear from the people that "claim" bodybuilding is healthy though, because I really really don't understand that argument, regardless of how clean your diet is.


Edit: The only reason why I made this topic is because I believe that this website is misleading people into believing that the bodybuilding lifestyle is a healthy lifestyle. I believe the complete contrary. Bodybuilding will sculpt your body and make you "look" healthy, but a 1.5k diet with adequate fiber, protein (like 0.5x BW), vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and moderate cardio and weight training is a significantly healthier alternative. If this lifestyle made you look good, I would switch to this in a heartbeat, but I am narcissistic so I will continue this sport instead.

[JRT6]

InB4 ban.

[fit4life1991]

InB4 ban.

Nice argument there. I just don't understand how people can say that this sport is healthy. I don't doubt that the average "bodybuilder" that doesn't use enhanced drugs lives longer than the average obese joe in America, but I also doubt many of these people live to their 90s and above which is one of my personal goals.

[iiradman]

Inb4 everything.

[highiso]

Nice argument there. I just don't understand how people can say that this sport is healthy. I don't doubt that the average "bodybuilder" that doesn't use enhanced drugs lives longer than the average obese joe in America, but I also doubt many of these people live to their 90s and above which is one of my personal goals.

It is quite amazing how long the obese end up living if you think about it, not fair. But really how enjoyable is it to be obese other than always being gluttonous?

[flowxsss]

it is healthy, just dont take too much supplements, and if you dont enjoy it find another sport bro,

[acrawlingchaos]

Nice argument there. I just don't understand how people can say that this sport is healthy. I don't doubt that the average "bodybuilder" that doesn't use enhanced drugs lives longer than the average obese joe in America, but I also doubt many of these people live to their 90s and above which is one of my personal goals.

Are you saying mixing a cocktail of enhancement drugs is unhealthy....
or
That bodybuilding is unhealthy?


The later is a far cry from the former. Do you actually have any literature that makes the claim that protein is too hard on the body?



^^^these are the two arguments... right?

[highiso]

Inb4 everything.

Had to double check I wasn't in the teen misc.

[-=FLEX=-]

Don't.

Feed.

The.

Trolls.

Thnx.

[chodan9]

I'm not sure how healthy it is compared to eating a maintenance level of calories, with moderate training. bodybuilding though isn't actually about health its about pursuing an ideal physicality. As past time it is not that unhealthy when pursued naturally and intelligently. I think as a lifestyle it can be considered much more healthy than a sedentary lifestyle where you just eat sugary and fatty foods as much as you want whenever you want.
Many sports are considered healthy, like tennis, swimming, running or football. But all of this things run counter to good health when pushed to extreme levels. People who are wanting to excel and push themselves to the top of there fields probably wren't that concerned with long term health. They are more concerned with shaving that extra fraction of a second off their last sprint time.
If a person bodybuilding strictly for health then they might want to look at other options.
That said bodybuilding for aesthetic goals or gaining strength and confidence or improved appearance is fine, and in the end you will still be healthier for it than %98 of everyone else.
Is it the healthiest way to go? no, but its a damn site better than where many of us came from.

[JRT6]

Nice argument there. I just don't understand how people can say that this sport is healthy. I don't doubt that the average "bodybuilder" that doesn't use enhanced drugs lives longer than the average obese joe in America, but I also doubt many of these people live to their 90s and above which is one of my personal goals.

Says troll who demands proof to counter his own conjecture.

[bodyhard]

but I also doubt many of these people live to their 90s and above which is one of my personal goals.

Dude no one is promise tomorrow, there are people who live the life of drugging and drinking and live to an old age, there are people who live a healthy life and die early and vice verse.

[fit4life1991]

Are you saying mixing a cocktail of enhancement drugs is unhealthy....
or
That bodybuilding is unhealthy?


The later is a far cry from the former. Do you actually have any literature that makes the claim that protein is too hard on the body?



^^^these are the two arguments... right?

My claim is that bodybuilding is unhealthy. After spending 2 minutes googling the protein consumption thing though, it seems that as long as you don't have any problems with your liver that you are fine. I know that a high caloric diet will age your body quicker than a low caloric diet though. It's one of the top reasons why these world class endurance athletes don't live as long as the average Joe.

Haha I'm just super paranoid, because I want to live to the day when they come up with a drug that causes reverse aging of the organs. If that year is 2090, I want to make sure I'm alive at that point in time.

[HoustonTXMuscle]

Give me some facts (scientific data) before I get too old to appreciate the humor in your nonsense.

[fit4life1991]

I'm not sure how healthy it is compared to eating a maintenance level of calories, with moderate training. bodybuilding though isn't actually about health its about pursuing an ideal physicality. As past time it is not that unhealthy when pursued naturally and intelligently. I think as a lifestyle it can be considered much more healthy than a sedentary lifestyle where you just eat sugary and fatty foods as much as you want whenever you want.
Many sports are considered healthy, like tennis, swimming, running or football. But all of this things run counter to good health when pushed to extreme levels. People who are wanting to excel and push themselves to the top of there fields probably wren't that concerned with long term health. They are more concerned with shaving that extra fraction of a second off their last sprint time.
If a person bodybuilding strictly for health then they might want to look at other options.
That said bodybuilding for aesthetic goals or gaining strength and confidence or improved appearance is fine, and in the end you will still be healthier for it than %98 of everyone else.
Is it the healthiest way to go? no, but its a damn site better than where many of us came from.

This is honestly all I'm saying. People on this site claim that bodybuilding is a super healthy lifestyle, but I'm just saying it isn't one of the healthiest out there. I agree that most of us on here are healthier than 90% of Americans though. So once my testosterone levels start to fall, I will probably go back to my normal lifestyle of 1.5k calories with moderate weight training and cardio. I personally believe bodybuilding has made me unhealthier. Because eating more than 1.5k calories is a challenge for myself, I buy ice cream and chips (and I don't even like the taste of junk food, I'd prefer salad to a bag of chips any day of the week) to get the calories in. I would not be eating this crap if it weren't for the weight gain.

[TZA13]

why do still see green??

[Jibbo]

Wow, and I went red for having an opinion on deadlifting and got negged by a Mod. This isn't looking like it is going to go anywhere good. Nothing wrong with having an opinion OP, just remember this is the BB forum and a lot of other opinions here.

[ironwill2008]

Please explain that to me. It is actually one of the top reasons why I do not want to continue lifting for extended periods of time, because I don't want to die young because of my health habits at a younger age. I eat extremely clean, but a high calorie, high protein diet is not even remotely good for your health.

I can understand how it is healthy for some people, if the alternative is being overweight or obese, but for someone like myself that I can 100% GUARENTEE will never be overweight for a second of my life (I struggle to eat over 1.5k calories a day, although I still force over 3k into my mouth), larger calorie consumption is very taxing on all of your organs, and particular the liver from the protein consumption. I know that the key to longevity is a low calorie intake (with moderate weight training and cardio), but I also don't particularly care to look like bones like I have my whole life so I force food down my throat.

I just really want to hear from the people that "claim" bodybuilding is healthy though, because I really really don't understand that argument, regardless of how clean your diet is.


Edit: The only reason why I made this topic is because I believe that this website is misleading people into believing that the bodybuilding lifestyle is a healthy lifestyle. I believe the complete contrary. Bodybuilding will sculpt your body and make you "look" healthy, but a 1.5k diet with adequate fiber, protein (like 0.5x BW), vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and moderate cardio and weight training is a significantly healthier alternative. If this lifestyle made you look good, I would switch to this in a heartbeat, but I am narcissistic so I will continue this sport instead.

Like every other poster on this site, you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how baseless, or uninformed, it might be.




BTW, I eat 'clean' too; I never eat anything that's been dropped on the floor, and I always wash fruit and veg before eating it raw.


HTH

[chodan9]

I personally believe bodybuilding has made me unhealthier. Because eating more than 1.5k calories is a challenge for myself, I buy ice cream and chips (and I don't even like the taste of junk food, I'd prefer salad to a bag of chips any day of the week) to get the calories in. I would not be eating this crap if it weren't for the weight gain.

hold on
you said earlier you only eat "clean"
but now you eat chips and ice cream to gain weight.
you can eat at a calorie surplus without eating junk you know

[flatiron]

I don't want to die young

You don't always get what you want.

for someone like myself that I can 100% GUARENTEE will never be overweight for a second of my life

So says the 21 yo. Ah, the arrogance of youth. Get back to me when you are married, have a few kids, working long hours at a desk job, and stressed out trying to make ends meet in a down economy.

I know that the key to longevity is a low calorie intake

This is your claim, back it up with scientific studies. If you won't do that, then why should we respond.

[bodyhard]

hold on
you said earlier you only eat "clean"
but now you eat chips and ice cream to gain weight.
you can eat at a calorie surplus without eating junk you know

Exactly, you don't need to eat junk to gain weight.

[bigtallox]

Edit: The only reason why I made this topic is because I believe that this website is misleading people into believing that the bodybuilding lifestyle is a healthy lifestyle.

Oh good grief this is "bodybuilding.com" not "healthylifestyle.com", this website isn't misleading anybody.

Personally Im starting to hate that word "healthy" because you are somewhat right, some people come here and start threads about "eating healthy" and IMHO that's kind of off topic, bodybuilding is about building muscle not increasing health.

Bodybuilding will sculpt your body and make you "look" healthy

See there you go again, you're the one mixing things up. Well, first, you used "sculpt"... sounds like a late night infomercial. Second, bodybuilding doesn't make you "look healthy", what's that mean anyway? Can you look at somebody and know if they have cancer or something? That's quite a good gift if you can. What bodybuilding does do is make you look more muscular. If you interpret that as healthy, that's *your* interpretation, your impression, that's all.

[ljimd]

The kid's right. I've been sick for 50 years.

[RobertD2]

I can understand how it is healthy for some people, if the alternative is being overweight or obese, but for someone like myself that I can 100% GUARENTEE will never be overweight for a second of my life (I struggle to eat over 1.5k calories a day, although I still force over 3k into my mouth), larger calorie consumption is very taxing on all of your organs, and particular the liver from the protein consumption. I know that the key to longevity is a low calorie intake (with moderate weight training and cardio), but I also don't particularly care to look like bones like I have my whole life so I force food down my throat.

If you honestly have trouble eating 1500 calories a day you should run not walk to an eating disorder recovery center. You weigh more then I do and my breakfast can be close to 1000 calories. But you're 21????????????? What kind of screwed up body do you have that 1500 isn't a snack at your age?

My guess is you've been spending too much time in the anorexia acceptance websites.

[highiso]

So says the 21 yo. Ah, the arrogance of youth. Get back to me when you are married, have a few kids, working long hours at a desk job, and stressed out trying to make ends meet in a down economy.

^this this this!!!! Repd flatiron!

[BloodySalad]

Good luck with your new life as a complete and utter *******, OP!!

[LowCarbDiabetic]

My claim is that bodybuilding is unhealthy.

Based on what? I've never seen any scientific evidence to suggest this.

After spending 2 minutes googling the protein consumption thing though, it seems that as long as you don't have any problems with your liver that you are fine.

First, you made claims that you now know are incorrect without first spending 2 minutes on Google to see if there was any evidence to back up your nonsense? No offense, but that's pretty ignorant.

Second, I think you mean KIDNEY problems, not liver problems. Protein is actually shown to help liver function in those with hepatitis and other liver issues, AFAIK.

As for kidney issues and excessive protein - it's proven repeatedly that excessive protein is only an issue in those who already have impaired kidney function. You'd know that if you googled it, too...

I know that a high caloric diet will age your body quicker than a low caloric diet though.

You KNOW this, do you? Sure you do, kid. Like you KNEW protein consumption was hurting your liver until you Googled it?

It's one of the top reasons why these world class endurance athletes don't live as long as the average Joe.

More conjecture based on nonsense, arrogance and idiocy. Either that or you're just a troll. Either way, enjoy life. I don't think we'll be seeing you on the forums much longer.

[nebraskaheat]

OP is 21.. All I hear is bonk blah bonk blah...

[ArchAngel'73]

5'9"
145 lbs.
21 years young


I can curl you.
for reps
in the squat rack
without chalk

[frozensparky]

I can curl you.
for reps
in the squat rack
without chalk

Lol on spread.