How to lose belly fat AND keep your boobs <3<3<3 LF Chat 5.0<3<3<3

[Ammex]

I've been thinking about making a bacon, egg, and cheese pizza.

[BradKemp]

looks groce dude

2 chicken tits and broccoli with cheese

[krete77]

^ thats betta.

I can't even give serious answers in the main forum. I think I found my new passion for the main forum.

That is, answering any questions I can 100% honestly but with a twist.

[bullrider_IL]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH U BIG ***GOT.

Breaking out in less than a week. U WOT MATE

Edit: Then again you probably drank the entire vile.

Actually, it hasn't gotten here yet. I'm kinda lost as to why I'm breaking out, unless it's due to the lack of hormonas

[csb5731]

Speaking of DIRTY:


I guess some people have different interpretations of "good sources of protein". If I was a member of the ****li Fruitarian Society, I guess I might consider 17g in 480 calories a good dose of protein.

Only really salty things sound edible to me right now. Or maybe a chocolate malt/blizzard/froyo type thing.

[missladyj]

looks groce dude

2rd

[BradKemp]

2rd

Go eat onions and listen to twista you starter jacket wearing *******

[krete77]

lol at starter jacket.

u mad i wear franklins?

[z71kris]

Go eat onions and listen to twista you starter jacket wearing *******

Lulz

[missladyj]

Go eat onions and listen to twista you starter jacket wearing *******

I wear a Reebok jacket ty

[HG88]

I wear light up
LA Gears in the gym. People stare at them.

Yeah, they mirin.

[camdensdaddy]

I place IIFYMers in a similar category as I do Fat Acceptance people. They're just making excuses cause they're lazy. Yea, IIFYM works in theory, but a majority of people would have way better results eating "clean". Stable blood sugar and higher TEF just plain helps. There is a reason why so many more competitive people eat 'clean' vs 'dirty'.

Many "competitive people" ride bicycles too...I'll bet their bodies would be more appreciative if they put down the bike and ate a donut.

In all seriousness though, obviously, you're not going to get very far eating nothing but pizza and ice cream but trying getting ripped eating nothing but broccoli and tell me how that works out for you. I believe that people who want to get lean will get lean...some will do it eating clean, some will do it eating dirty, and some will do it riding bikes.

[bullrider_IL]

Many "competitive people" ride bicycles too...I'll bet their bodies would be more appreciative if they put down the bike and ate a donut.

In all seriousness though, obviously, you're not going to get very far eating nothing but pizza and ice cream but trying getting ripped eating nothing but broccoli and tell me how that works out for you. I believe that people who want to get lean will get lean...some will do it eating clean, some will do it eating dirty, and some will do it riding bikes.

You natty bruh? You NATTY?

[camdensdaddy]

You natty bruh? You NATTY?

Obviously...do I even lift?

I place IIFYMers in a similar category as I do Fat Acceptance people. They're just making excuses cause they're lazy. Yea, IIFYM works in theory, but a majority of people would have way better results eating "clean". Stable blood sugar and higher TEF just plain helps. There is a reason why so many more competitive people eat 'clean' vs 'dirty'.

Many "competitive people" ride bicycles too...I'll bet their bodies would be more appreciative if they put down the bike and ate a donut.

In all seriousness though, obviously, you're not going to get very far eating nothing but pizza and ice cream but trying getting ripped eating nothing but broccoli and tell me how that works out for you. I believe that people who want to get lean will get lean...some will do it eating clean, some will do it eating dirty, and some will do it riding bikes.

Edit: No offense to Bull and Moore

[bullrider_IL]

Obviously...do I even lift?


Edit: No offense to Bull and Moore

lol

[Ammex]

Many "competitive people" ride bicycles too...I'll bet their bodies would be more appreciative if they put down the bike and ate a donut.

In all seriousness though, obviously, you're not going to get very far eating nothing but pizza and ice cream but trying getting ripped eating nothing but broccoli and tell me how that works out for you. I believe that people who want to get lean will get lean...some will do it eating clean, some will do it eating dirty, and some will do it riding bikes.

I never specified competing in what. You just assumed bodybuilding. I just made a general statement about competing, be it sport or aesthetics. Unless you've actually experienced the massive differences between eating dirty and clean, you can't really comment aside from theory. And I stated that both methods work, there just seem to be advantages to the clean method, namely satiety and performance.

[NitrogenWidget]

managed 8,6,5,4 for chin-ups.
However they pre-friend my bi's so I had to drop some weight for db curls.

[bullrider_IL]

So, everyone knows matt ogus. Guess what? Apparently he was doing g4p vids on youtube when he was 16 fuking years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=72UvYGyO7zQ

note: you will not be able to unsee this. I can't watch his vids ever again

[Serpentarius]

So, everyone knows matt ogus. Guess what? Apparently he was doing g4p vids on youtube when he was 16 fuking years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=72UvYGyO7zQ

note: you will not be able to unsee this. I can't watch his vids ever again

Question for you.

Why do you think people fire back saying people who call others who are obviously juicing "jealous" when they arent jealous?

Also do you think the guy in the video is natural?

[csb5731]

Finally got 1500 kcals down my gullet. Not wanting to watch under-age g4p on youtube crew checking in. Don't know who Matt Ogus is.

[bullrider_IL]

managed 8,6,5,4 for chin-ups.
However they pre-friend my bi's so I had to drop some weight for db curls.

That's why it should be Chest/Bis and Back/Tris...

[BradKemp]

I never specified competing in what. You just assumed bodybuilding. I just made a general statement about competing, be it sport or aesthetics. Unless you've actually experienced the massive differences between eating dirty and clean, you can't really comment aside from theory. And I stated that both methods work, there just seem to be advantages to the clean method, namely satiety and performance.

It really isn't that complicated.

better food = better fuel

better fuel = better workouts

better workouts = better results

better results = better women

[bullrider_IL]

Question for you.

Why do you think people fire back saying people who call others who are obviously juicing "jealous" when they arent jealous?

Also do you think the guy in the video is natural?

I think it's just the whole idea of wanting people to think you are superior. In America, we have such a high standard and compare everything and everyone. Case in point: How many basketball players ever will be as good as Michael Jordan? Michael Jordan. But we want to compare everything to show people that we think he is better. So people who try to write off accusations as "Jealousy" are people who are trying to plant the seed in you that you are inferior to them/you aren't as good as them because they "aren't" juicing, but you could never look like them because of "Genetics". Yes, genetics come in to play, but take a look at some of the greatest BBers of all time. You think Ronnie Coleman would have looked that good without running obscene amounts of juice? No way, look at his pics now that he's off, he doesn't have naturally good muscle bellies and honestly, he kinda looks like chit. So basically, I think it's a superiority complex thing, along with a bit of a mental game.

And no, I don't think 90% of youtube "fitness" community is natural. PMing you...

[camdensdaddy]

I never specified competing in what. You just assumed bodybuilding. I just made a general statement about competing, be it sport or aesthetics. Unless you've actually experienced the massive differences between eating dirty and clean, you can't really comment aside from theory. And I stated that both methods work, there just seem to be advantages to the clean method, namely satiety and performance.

I was only being half serious here, but still, I was probably speaking more generally. Whether it's college kids popping ******** to perform better on tests or bodybuilders taking steroids...many "competitive people" ride bicycles. In most cases, I say to each his own.

To your overall point, I am not really disagreeing with you, just trying to get you to rethink "clean" and "dirty". I eat mostly "clean" largely because of satiety and my performance has obviously improved as I am no longer obese. Because I have lost so much weight, I would say that I have experienced the massive difference between the two. Eating clean isn't the broccoli I did eat...it's the pizza I didn't eat and vice versa. Could I be further along if I had eaten more broccoli and less pizza...maybe; I might have given up though and then what good would "clean" eating have been for me?

All in all, I don't think we're as far apart as it seems...mostly I just like to argue.

[Serpentarius]

tfw bullrider's PM inbox is full and you were going to paypal him 10,000 dollars to buy a new wardrobe but now he cant receive it

[camdensdaddy]

tfw bullrider's PM inbox is full and you were going to paypal him 10,000 dollars to buy a new wardrobe but now he cant receive it

You can PM me anytime sailor.

Edit: no homo

[bullrider_IL]

tfw bullrider's PM inbox is full and you were going to paypal him 10,000 dollars to buy a new wardrobe but now he cant receive it

You can view me on skype any time big boy :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
































































No homo

[matman1813]

Is this clean?

[unleashthelion]

I never specified competing in what. You just assumed bodybuilding. I just made a general statement about competing, be it sport or aesthetics. Unless you've actually experienced the massive differences between eating dirty and clean, you can't really comment aside from theory. And I stated that both methods work, there just seem to be advantages to the clean method, namely satiety and performance.

There are also advantages to the IIFYM for satiety, as well as disadvantages to the clean method in satiety. I'd like to say this is just for some people, but -seeing as how many people go crazy with their cheat days - it's likely that this applies to all. 4000 calories of clean foods can leave you feeling far less satiated than 2000 calories of dirty food. As for performance, I think there's a threshold (I don't think 95% clean would hamper performance).

The important thing is how we conceptualize it. Calling IIFYM'ers "lazy" is a misplaced judgment; for all you know, they have deep psychological pathways that need dirty foods and this is their way of managing it (instead of abstaining for as long as possible and then bingeing). Perhaps the distress from avoiding these foods do not justify the slight bumps in performance and the non-existent, or opposite, effect of clean foods on satiety. Also, for some, it may require greater effort - as they are having to enjoy those foods in much smaller quantities than they are used to.

[Nulllogik]

Actually, it hasn't gotten here yet. I'm kinda lost as to why I'm breaking out, unless it's due to the lack of hormonas

I've been dealing with backne for the past ~5 months.

Sucks

May have finally got it under control.