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    people who perform pull ups stronger?

    Helo, this is something that confuses me alot. A big builder who can't do 3 pull ups, yes hes heavy but most of the mass is muscle right isnt muscle meant 2 make u stronger?

    And then u see a skinny dude performing 20 pullups without a problem.

    Now does that mean the guy who performs more pullups is stronger?
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    Pullup numbers are a ticky thing, because they depend on more than pure strength.

    As you are lifting up your body, it's your power to weight ratio that matters the most. Often, heavy lifters have issues throwing their body around. It's also an exercise whose numbers go up in response to training, and the more pullups your do, the better you get. They don't do a lot of pullups so can't do many of them.
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    - The "skinny" guy is lifting a lot less weight. Lifting less weight doesn't make you stronger.

    - High-reps are an indication of endurance conditioning, not strength
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    Originally Posted by Mikayeel View Post
    Helo, this is something that confuses me alot. A big builder who can't do 3 pull ups, yes hes heavy but most of the mass is muscle right isnt muscle meant 2 make u stronger?

    And then u see a skinny dude performing 20 pullups without a problem.

    Now does that mean the guy who performs more pullups is stronger?
    It's about lifting bodyweight in a certain way.
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    Higher strength to weight ratio, not really stronger. the skinny guy is only trying to lift 150 lbs the heavy bodybuilder is trying to lift 200 lbs. If you were able to neutralize the bodyweight of both and hang 150 lbs from them and have them do pull ups the the body builder could probably do more than the skinny guy.
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    right, what i always thought was that heavy body builders lacked strength to pull them self up. So its not really the strength thats an issue then?

    Bt if the 2 were compared strength wise, maybe a fight or something the bodybuilder should win?
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    Originally Posted by Mikayeel View Post
    right, what i always thought was that heavy body builders lacked strength to pull them self up. So its not really the strength thats an issue then?

    Bt if the 2 were compared strength wise, maybe a fight or something the bodybuilder should win?
    You keep mixing apples & oranges. In a fight, the most skilled person will likely win.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    You keep mixing apples & oranges. In a fight, the most skilled person will likely win.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    You keep mixing apples & oranges. In a fight, the most skilled person will likely win.
    Ok maybe a fight is not a good example, but arm wrestling... iv seen big strong body builders go down to smaller men, who have maybe half the arm size.
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    lol are u talking about actual pro bb's? they are more muscle restricted with huge ass roided muscles but can probly do a **** load on lat pull downs and other back exercises, while skinny guys are more flexible, weigh alot less so its just easier.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    - The "skinny" guy is lifting a lot less weight. Lifting less weight doesn't make you stronger.

    - High-reps are an indication of endurance conditioning, not strength
    wow although that was short, this statement is very true repped.
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    BS....

    The main reason is because most bigger lifters just don't do pullups. It is really that simple. Of course the amount of pullups they will be able to do should be lower, but nowhere near as low as it is for a lot of these guys. Larger lifters have a ton of mass/weight but could certainly do a decent(decent being anywhere from 5-10) number of pullups if they worked at them. However, if I were much larger, then I would probably just do lat pulldowns and rows instead and be done with it. But nothing works my back better than weighted pullups(except dl's).

    I'm 152 pounds and I add two 45's on my ironmind belt and can get around 5 pullups. And keep in mind that I don't have the muscle mass of a 245lb bodybuilder. But I do weighted pullups and dips everytime I'm in the gym(they are my favorite exercise. lol). I think that frequency in which someone does a certain exercise definitely has something to do with it.
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    i would think it would depend on where most of your muscle gain is. Ive always been good at pullups but i can do more now and use way more additional weight then i could 20 pounds ago.
    you wanna know how i did it, this is how, i never saved anything for the swim back.
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    Originally Posted by Mikayeel View Post
    Helo, this is something that confuses me alot. A big builder who can't do 3 pull ups, yes hes heavy but most of the mass is muscle right isnt muscle meant 2 make u stronger?

    And then u see a skinny dude performing 20 pullups without a problem.

    Now does that mean the guy who performs more pullups is stronger?
    Large muscles aren't necessarily strong muscles and strong muscles aren't necessarily large muscles.
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    Originally Posted by wolfbaden6 View Post
    Large muscles aren't necessarily strong muscles and strong muscles aren't necessarily large muscles.
    Ok u hit the nail, i know this will go off topic, but how do i avoid getting large none strong muscle.. Because am on the process of bulking up now, but i want 2 do it the right way ie have strong muscles not just big ones for the show.
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    Originally Posted by Mikayeel View Post
    Helo, this is something that confuses me alot. A big builder who can't do 3 pull ups, yes hes heavy but most of the mass is muscle right isnt muscle meant 2 make u stronger?

    And then u see a skinny dude performing 20 pullups without a problem.

    Now does that mean the guy who performs more pullups is stronger?
    Yes and no. Higher relative strength for sure, and in a lot of cases higher absolute strength.

    If a 200lb man can only do 2 pull-ups, a 165lb guy doing 20 is probably slightly stronger overall as well (Based on 1rms). If you train pull-ups, there's really no excuse for not being able to do lots of them, it's like a 200lb guy benching 225 for a max and thinking he's strong, when lots of guys much smaller can warm-up with his max.
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    Originally Posted by Mikayeel View Post
    Ok u hit the nail, i know this will go off topic, but how do i avoid getting large none strong muscle.. Because am on the process of bulking up now, but i want 2 do it the right way ie have strong muscles not just big ones for the show.
    the stupidity of your post amazes me. i have a feeling the last thing you need to be worrying about is getting "too big" without being strong enough.

    a huge bb'er might lose to a smaller armwrestler because technique plays a bigger part in armwrestling than bicep size.

    a big guy might not be able to do as many pullups because he has to pull a heavier weight. and ill tell you right now, there isnt one "big builder" that can only do 3 pullups. if thats the case, theyre probably just fat. use your head.
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    no one ever has to worry about having too big of muscles.

    as for pull ups i find that people with longer arms seemingly do them easier.
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    Originally Posted by jjsafari View Post
    no one ever has to worry about having too big of muscles.

    as for pull ups i find that people with longer arms seemingly do them easier.
    are you sure about that?

    I feel like I have to work more to do them because of increased leverage in my lanky arms.

    whereas a short guy with stubby arms can flick themselves up and down like a hummingbird flapping its wings.
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    Muscle is heavy...

    More muscle mass equals more weight!

    Plus muscle size is not proportionate to muscle strength.

    The strongest guy in the gym is rarely the biggest!
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    Originally Posted by Grizzly Adams View Post
    the stupidity of your post amazes me. i have a feeling the last thing you need to be worrying about is getting "too big" without being strong enough.

    a huge bb'er might lose to a smaller armwrestler because technique plays a bigger part in armwrestling than bicep size.

    a big guy might not be able to do as many pullups because he has to pull a heavier weight. and ill tell you right now, there isnt one "big builder" that can only do 3 pullups. if thats the case, theyre probably just fat. use your head.
    if u find the question stupid dnt reply to it....

    I asked because i am new to all this... nd i dnt need u telling me that
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    Originally Posted by AdamRingshall View Post
    Muscle is heavy...

    More muscle mass equals more weight!

    Plus muscle size is not proportionate to muscle strength.

    The strongest guy in the gym is rarely the biggest!
    Muscle strength : fat strength > muscle density : fat density



    the weakest muscle in the world still lifts more weight pound for pound than the strongest fat. So yeah, it might be more heavy, but its FAR MORE useable.

    And the strongest guy in my gym is also the biggest.
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    In my opinion pull ups are not the best way to judge someone's strength, add the big 3 together and then some math involving heights and weights would be better.
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    Originally Posted by AdamRingshall View Post
    Muscle is heavy...

    More muscle mass equals more weight!

    Plus muscle size is not proportionate to muscle strength.

    The strongest guy in the gym is rarely the biggest!
    This is a good post, when we're talking about pound for pound strength, it would rarely be the biggest guys in the gym lifting the most % of their bodyweight. To the op, I think a lot of it has to with genetics and the way tho body is built, usually the guys I see doing the most pullups are skinny guys, take that to mean whatever you want. Do pull-ups equal stength, well that depends, theres a big guy at my gym, Im 230, he's probably 245 or so, for a big guy he can knockout some pullups, he doest sets of 10 or so. I cannot do that. However, I outlift him on every thing else, bench, shoulder press, whatever. Pullups are a good indicator of stength but not the only indicator.
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    Originally Posted by Beachman View Post
    In my opinion pull ups are not the best way to judge someone's strength, add the big 3 together and then some math involving heights and weights would be better.
    They have multiple scoring systems like that for powerlifting. Do some research into a Wilks formula.
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    When you guys are talking about the "biggest guy in the gym", I imagine you're talking about that one strong-to-somewhat strong fat dude that every gym has. That's not "big".

    Strength and muscle size are related. Show me a 5'11" 150 pounder that's pulling, curling, pressing etc tons more weight than someone at comparable BF% and 200+ lbs. Yeah...
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    are you sure about that?

    I feel like I have to work more to do them because of increased leverage in my lanky arms.

    whereas a short guy with stubby arms can flick themselves up and down like a hummingbird flapping its wings.
    that is what i have observed. but really there is no way to tell
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    they're a pretty bad indicator of strenght imo. Once my friend bet me I wouldn't be able to do 12 pulls by the end of the month. (at the time i could get like 3 lol) So I started doing them every chance I got (literally 1-200 a day =O) By the time the end of the month rolled arounnd I got 16. He was in shock. Was I significantly stronger then before? nope most of my lifts only went up 5-10 lbs. But from doing them so often my body got really good at doing pullups as efficiently as possible. I no alot of huge guys who can't do nearly that many. Am I even close to as strong as them? no way in hell.

    Part of it is at only 110 I'm pulling literally half as much. But the other part is they just don't do it as much. In fact a yeaer later I can't really do many now either, maybe 6 or 7. I just don't do them every day, or even every back day, anymore so I'm not as good at it. All my lifts have gone up though so they really don't have much of a relation to strenght in my experience
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    Originally Posted by Slow-N-Steady View Post
    BS....

    The main reason is because most bigger lifters just don't do pullups. It is really that simple. Of course the amount of pullups they will be able to do should be lower, but nowhere near as low as it is for a lot of these guys. Larger lifters have a ton of mass/weight but could certainly do a decent(decent being anywhere from 5-10) number of pullups if they worked at them. However, if I were much larger, then I would probably just do lat pulldowns and rows instead and be done with it. But nothing works my back better than weighted pullups(except dl's).

    I'm 152 pounds and I add two 45's on my ironmind belt and can get around 5 pullups. And keep in mind that I don't have the muscle mass of a 245lb bodybuilder. But I do weighted pullups and dips everytime I'm in the gym(they are my favorite exercise. lol). I think that frequency in which someone does a certain exercise definitely has something to do with it.
    x2.. you just fotta do them... ive attached 2 45lbs and a 25lbs that makes me alot heavier then most bobybuilders... and stil rep out 5 or so...

    i dont do lat pulldowns so i dont know.. in all honesty i barely do any lifts lol... i train in a very different way then most gym goers.
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