Thoughts on WOMEN fighting on the Front lines? ( army, USA, Fuark yeah)?

[CheekyRunt]

It isn't like those are elite level male jobs. I mean, honestly, the average soldier isn't exactly a supreme specimen of manhood.

You're absolutely right. And everyone has their turds. But if I told a female to "hurry the fuck up" I'd have an EO complaint stapled to my forehead before the ruckmarch ended.

And it really is inevitable she will bang someone in the platoon. Then that guy "claims" her until she bangs someone else then I got drama on a whole new level.

[YesWayNoWeigh]

lol @ miscers having such high expectations for the average male. I always lol when you guys say that the strongest females are as strong as the average male.

I bet you she's stronger than a good chunk of guys in the military, and that's not even anything bad.

gym strength doesnt necessarily translate to what you have to do in the military

[Magnetotropic]

brb male soldiers think they are supreme physical specimens

brb the physical side of training was a joke for Patt Tillman and he wasn't even an exceptional athlete by college standards

You just went full-retard.

[Trexmeyer]

Brb you have no clue about the 75th Ranger Regiment and even less of a clue about war.

brb cocky mother****er thinks he's a hard ass for fighting an imperialistic war against goat herders with guns

[jmonty]

Will someone that is supporting this at least please explain how this will make our combat-arms units better in some way?

This is a good point.

Hopefully an above average motivated female will replace a below average unmotivated male

[Payrab]

I've Been to Iraq twice and I was in Fallujah 2004, USMC 0331.

I always feel like such a boot to old Iraq vets.

[fFozzie]

brb cocky mother****er thinks he's a hard ass for fighting an imperialistic war against goat herders with guns

Brb you are avoiding the issue entirely, but okay.

[ToddlerSquattin]

I don't think they should be on the front lines at all but as sniper teams they could work. Russia had a whole bunch of hot girls as snipers on the eastern front in WW2 and they were apparently pretty deadly.

and even if an female olympic athlete can clean and jerk 250 pounds or whatever it is a male could do more and/or better.

[Magnetotropic]

This is a good point.

Hopefully an above average motivated female will replace a below average unmotivated male

Olympic-trained, super motivated, female soldier or not, if you strap a 100 lbs rucksack to a female and go on a 15-20 mile march, she will be a hump drop.

[VitaCrave]

The thing that really angers me is that the people who support this are people who have never served in the military so they're talking out of their ass about having women out there, meanwhile military brothers are adamant about keeping them away since females are inferior to men in terms strength, mental toughness, etc (which I agree with 100%)

[Trexmeyer]

I don't think they should be on the front lines at all but as sniper teams they could work. Russia had a whole bunch of hot girls as snipers on the eastern front in WW2 and they were apparently pretty deadly.

and even if an female olympic athlete can clean and jerk 250 pounds or whatever it is a male could do more and/or better.

Because all men in the infantry are physical freaks.

Oh, wait that's not remotely true.

Only sound argument is against is that it won't make the units better. Saying ALL women can't physically do the job is fuarking hilarious.

[Magnetotropic]

I always feel like such a boot to old Iraq vets.

It feels like yesterday.

[fFozzie]

This is a good point.

Hopefully an above average motivated female will replace a below average unmotivated male

I think there are plenty of motivated males that can replace below average unmotivated males; without having to change the entire infrastructure of combat-arms MOSes while we are still fighting a war.


I think the only reason that people want to allow women into combat arms is exactly that; to allow women into combat arms.

This is not a good enough reason as the only purpose of the military is to win battles and wars; not to cater to peoples emotions or what they feel they are entitled to.

[Trexmeyer]

Olympic-trained, super motivated, female soldier or not, if you strap a 100 lbs rucksack to a female and go on a 15-20 mile march, she will be a hump drop.

female friend from HS just ran an ultramarathon (50 miles)

u wot m8?


brb all women are 5' 100lbs and weak AF

[icanseeu1985]

If she can bring a kitchen along with her, to the battlefield, then I am all for it.

[Payrab]

The thing that really angers me is that the people who support this are people who have never served in the military so they're talking out of their ass about having women out there, meanwhile military brothers are adamant about keeping them away since females are inferior to men in terms strength, mental toughness, etc (which I agree with 100%)

So true. It's all people who have never been even remotely close to combat who are all about change.

[chiefnz]

Hmmm. I believe ^


I think they mostly want to BE ABLE to join these roles in military.

Even if they don't join in huge numbers, Its their right to be able to, I suppose.

As long as they don't " get in the way" or cause problems i think it should be okay.

idk

Just by being there they are in the way. A distraction for the men and will change the group dynamic completely. They will go back and change this at some point.

[colonelcross]

Because all men in the infantry are physical freaks.

Oh, wait that's not remotely true.

Only sound argument is against is that it won't make the units better. Saying ALL women can't physically do the job is fuarking hilarious.

I'm pretty sure most of us military brahs have listed multiple reasons why they wouldn't make the units better, it's not even solely about the physicality of the job.

[Trexmeyer]

So true. It's all people who have never been even remotely close to combat who are all about change.

women have never performed heroically in any wars ever in human history

right

[colonelcross]

female friend from HS just ran an ultramarathon (50 miles)

u wot m8?


brb all women are 5' 100lbs and weak AF

Clever, he talks about moving with heavy packs, so you switch to running. U wot m8?

[jmonty]

Olympic-trained, super motivated, female soldier or not, if you strap a 100 lbs rucksack to a female and go on a 15-20 mile march, she will be a hump drop.

As would many males.

[CheekyRunt]

brb cocky mother****er thinks he's a hard ass for fighting an imperialistic war against goat herders with guns

I only wish I could neg you again.

The thing that really angers me is that the people who support this are people who have never served in the military so they're talking out of their ass about having women out there, meanwhile military brothers are adamant about keeping them away since females are inferior to men in terms strength, mental toughness, etc (which I agree with 100%)

Yup.

Because all men in the infantry are physical freaks.

Oh, wait that's not remotely true.

Only sound argument is against is that it won't make the units better. Saying ALL women can't physically do the job is fuarking hilarious.

For the infinitesimally small number of females that would enhance the branch and the much larger population of those that won't... why do this? In the name of being politically correct? Because it certainly isn't in the name of making it a better fighting force. There is no gain, and certain loss, in lethality of these units by doing this.

[colonelcross]

women have never performed heroically in any wars ever in human history

right

Just like mentally handicapped people have never amounted to anything? What about the kid who swished a half court bball shot on video? We're not talking 1 in a million longshots, we're talking day to day activities doing more harm than good to the organization. And for what? So a handfull of women can STILL not attain the rank of General and no longer have an excuse as to why?

[Trexmeyer]

I'm pretty sure most of us military brahs have listed multiple reasons why they wouldn't make the units better, it's not even solely about the physicality of the job.

main issue with it making units potentially worse is due to male ego and superiority complex


protective instincts and female hygiene issues are also up there


Strong amount of misogyny hate in this thread thinking ALL women are mentally weak, have crappy hand eye coordination, lack dedication, lack basic reasoning skills, etc.

[Phaze2]

only reason they are pushing for this is because of the "Equal bs" there are just some things that only men should do, and that's war.

only reason why men should fight and not women: Testicles, testosterone.

Would you rather fight against a squad of 6 male navy seals or a squad of 3 male and 2 female navy seals? I'd take the latter.

[Ratamahatta]

Women are inferior to men, and a liability to a combat unit.

/thread

[Trexmeyer]

Clever, he talks about moving with heavy packs, so you switch to running. U wot m8?

Because all males have the mental strength and endurace to run an ultramarathon, right?

Pretty sure humping 30 clicks with a 75% body weight existance load is easier than running more than twice that distance.

[fFozzie]

Because all males have the mental strength and endurace to run an ultramarathon, right?

Pretty sure humping 30 clicks with a 75% body weight existance load is easier than running more than twice that distance.

We are talking about winning wars here, nothing else. The only objective for the military is victory. Do you understand?

[Loolen121]

horrible, glad I am out. I feel sorry for my fellow 11 series BROs.

[colonelcross]

Because all males have the mental strength and endurace to run an ultramarathon, right?

Pretty sure humping 30 clicks with a 75% body weight existance load is easier than running more than twice that distance.

It doesn't matter about the ease with which ruck marches are completed, what matters is that is is completed and with all supplies necessary to execute the mission. Which generally means those packs are heavy as sh!t. The simple fact is women CANNOT carry those heavy loads. While a full kit might weigh 65lbs and therefore be like 38% of my body weight, it is going to be a significantly higher percentage of a woman's body weight because the fact is, their pack will weigh almost the same.