Hello,
Im looking for a new powerlifting routine after doing Bill Starr intermediate a couple of times and finishing up the advanced. Ive been lifting for 10 1/2 months, current lifts are;
- Bench: 205 x 5
- Squat: 285 x 5
- Deadlift: 305 x 5
I eat all the time. So... Im not afraid of a very strenuous workout. Smolov seems interesting but I would like to find a more "Bench" oriented program as I find that its the lift I struggle the most with. Any help is appreciated!
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12-15-2008, 09:50 PM #1
Best program for intermediate lifter after Bill Starr?
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12-15-2008, 10:02 PM #2
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12-15-2008, 10:03 PM #3
Your bench seems in proportion to me. If you're out of gains on 5x5 check through here for programmes:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=43My PL training Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=115903511
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12-16-2008, 01:23 AM #4
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12-16-2008, 01:36 AM #5
I would like to mix it up a bit before going back to the advanced Im in need for a bit of change right now. Also I did look up the sticky before. All Im looking for is some opinions to help me choose my next program...Smolov, Sheiko, Westside there are a bunch and I know there all efficient Id just like to know whether one of them would be more appropriate. For example, a lot of ppl where recommending Riptoes or Bill Starr for a true beginner, what would be considered the next step?
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12-16-2008, 05:52 AM #6
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12-16-2008, 07:24 AM #7
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12-16-2008, 11:31 AM #8
Guys I never said I was an advanced lifter look at the title of the thread, Im looking for new ideas. Ive had to stop for about a month 1/2 over the course of my first 10 months of training...so over the course of 9 months of active training Ive gone through 2 12 weeks Bill Starr intermediate and am at my 8 week of advanced so I know Im supposed to "milk" the program Im looking for some variation before I go back on the advanced. Trust me, Im not some douchy little kid that wont stick with the program.
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12-16-2008, 11:35 AM #9
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12-16-2008, 11:44 AM #10
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12-16-2008, 11:47 AM #11
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12-16-2008, 11:59 AM #12
lol...my progress has been particularly slow on my bench. The smallest plates at my gym weight 3 lbs each...so smallest weekly increments are 6 pounds. Which means my body doesnt usually have a problem increasing the weights on squat and deadlift but it does on bench. So as stated in the madcow template I reset the weight a couple of weeks to ramp it back up. What I was thinking is perhaps I should do 1 additional rep the following week and then bring it back to 5 reps but with 6 additional pounds. Any thoughts?
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12-16-2008, 12:04 PM #13
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12-16-2008, 06:47 PM #14
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12-16-2008, 07:40 PM #15
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The point of what people have been trying to say, is correct, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But if you're looking just for something else to do, then by all means look for something else, but at the end of the day, working out is working out.
I enjoy doing it, regardless of what specifics I am doing, it's just the fact I am doing it, and above all, I enjoy progress, which is what you'll make if you run this programme again. Just sayin'.BRB' Projectile Vomitin'
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12-16-2008, 08:28 PM #16
Whats the difference between the intermediate and the advance routines?
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12-16-2008, 08:52 PM #17
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12-16-2008, 11:34 PM #18
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12-17-2008, 03:13 AM #19
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12-17-2008, 03:33 AM #20
I wouldn't advise it, stability and strength inequality issues.
My opinion is that although I want results I also like having fun in the weightroom, you will not make progression in any programme if you are not enthusiastic about hitting the gym.
Why not try another system/programme? TBH if you can find a more experienced powerlifter or strength athelete and talk to them and maybe join in with their training it won't matter what programme you're performing because you will undoubtedly get stronger.
Good luck whatever you choose.
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12-18-2008, 01:23 AM #21
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Really.
There is no stability/strength inequality issue (provided you are only doing this with 3lbs plates). I shift the fulcrum of the bar towards the heavier side, the loads balance, my body perceives it no differently to having equal weight at an equal distance on both sides.My journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7069091
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12-18-2008, 01:37 AM #22
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12-18-2008, 02:02 AM #23
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12-18-2008, 02:28 AM #24
So, I'm new here. I'll automatically admit to that, so maybe I don't have place to talk.
But, what I'm pretty sure they were saying is that 10 months of lifting is not nearly enough time to "milk" any particular program to its fullest extent, and as a result, they (at least, isaku) recommends running it again before trying anything above "intermediate."
10 months of lifting is, under no circumstances, "advanced lifting."
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