Which is better? What's the difference? I've seen some of the before and afters, and they're honestly sometimes more dramatic than keto/LC ones i've seen (which is saying a lot).
What's the biggest difference between the 2? Is it just keto minus diary and anything processed?
Anyone here done both?
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02-14-2011, 12:43 PM #1
Keto vs Paleo/Primal diets. Who wins?
"One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables." Romans 14:2
"Nothing tastes as good as losing weight feels."
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02-14-2011, 01:42 PM #2
The winner is the one who understands that both are tools. If you are looking for the next great thing go ahead and try it.
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02-14-2011, 02:24 PM #3
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02-14-2011, 02:34 PM #4
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Ketogenic diets will force you to limit many of the 'evils' put forth by the paleo people like gluten and fructose
Keto diets if not implemented properly may cause you to explode what they typically consider to be the evilist- excess linoleic acid
I'm a semi-paleo ketoer
I love milk, and rice but avoid wheat ect
I think keto is better for athletic purposes, perhaps becuase paleo people never execute the diet right. Where I live you don't see fruit on the trees 12 months a year, so why do they eat it 12 months a year ect
Both have the same basic principals:
Fat isn't bad, most believe sat fat isn't bad
both believe excess fructose bad (though keto discriminates more against all carbs)
Panu.com I believe has it figured out better than any diet 'guru' I've seen on the interwebz
To steal the guy above me's quote "EAT MEAT, NOT WHEAT" is central to both philosophies, and obviously rings true for a lot of us on both sides771/645/622 Single Ply
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02-14-2011, 03:55 PM #5
i pretty much follow a paleo diet on keto days. i don't eat dairy or peanuts, except for bacon every now and again i dont eat processed meat either, and i feel great
but i am not giving up carb days. carbing up makes me happy and makes my muscles happy. that's what makes ckd my diet of choice; 6 days a week it is healthy whole foods, lots of dietary fat (anabolic, especially the good saturated animal fat) and insulin in control, 1 day a week of anything i want, go to restaurants, go drink beer etc AND get the added bonus of refilling muscles and cranking up the metabolism for another week of dieting.
i would not be happy on a paleo diet without a carb day each week to look forward to. pretty sure i am a carb-addict, doing ckd lets me manage my carb addiction and actually benefit from it.
that's my two cents
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02-14-2011, 04:48 PM #6
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Many of the smarter paleo people think potatoes and rice are pretty benign even when consumed at fairly modorate levels. So even a 'paleo keto' person could have a carb up day when they eat 50 potatoes or something
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02-14-2011, 04:56 PM #7
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02-15-2011, 05:37 AM #8
Not looking for the next great thing, just have zero experience with the paleo lifestyle; and from what i've seen & heard it doesn't look much different from keto save the no dairy, legumes, and processed meat.
Looks like Keto with only whole foods, which is great, but expensive and hard to find.
Very worth it, though, and anyone who's eaten grass-fed hamburger and T-Bone knows it just tastes better anyway."One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables." Romans 14:2
"Nothing tastes as good as losing weight feels."
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02-15-2011, 09:19 AM #9
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02-15-2011, 12:17 PM #10
I just try and eat as cave-man/woman-ish as I possibly can. I'm not as informed about how different these diets are, or how they're being marketed in the weight-loss industry.
Does anyone have a link to a chart showing the differences?
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02-16-2011, 08:39 AM #11
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02-16-2011, 09:10 AM #12
yea it is great, also have an uncle who raises highland beef that essentially just graze (and live in the woods on his property aha) and are not given any 'feed'. got a delivery of that stuff on the way...
game and free-range meat tends to be leaner (game especially, wild venison is super-lean) but that it fine, just get my fats elsewhere, nothing like venison steak covered in butter... or bacon...
sorry i can't share haha! being a Canadian from the countryside has some perks...
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02-16-2011, 09:27 AM #13
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02-16-2011, 10:25 AM #14
Yeah man you are seriously blessed. You have no idea how much time and trouble you are saving yourself.
Here in the states, I found a local farmer (35-40 min drive) who has grass fed beef for $3.50/pound and up which is by far the cheapest I've ever seen it, They even have organic cheese, organic milk, and free-range chicken and pork. I had to search the countryside for them, and I have to order early as well. They only have pick-ups a couple days a week.
It's a royal pain in the arse, but so worth it!"One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables." Romans 14:2
"Nothing tastes as good as losing weight feels."
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02-16-2011, 12:24 PM #15
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02-16-2011, 06:05 PM #16
too bad man. related to that, you can buy venison (and other 'game meats') at specialty shops in canada but the meat has to be farmed, cannot sell actual wild game. lame, but i guess selling wild meat raises a ton of health and safety issues...
not even allowed to sell raw milk here...
but yea, know i am lucky. back in the day my father used to catch beautiful atlantic salmon, but those days are over...
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02-17-2011, 04:13 AM #17
I don't know which wins, but I do know what loses and that's logic.
Yeah oatmeal is the reason for cancer or whatever.
Sure thang paleotards.
Splain please why then the okinawans who eat a lot of grains and soy have the lowest rate of death from a multitude of chronic diseases and highest number of centenarians.
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11-07-2013, 03:18 PM #18
paleo vs keto
My husband is currently doing keto, I'm on paleo. I personally believe paleo is a little less restrictive and depending on the paleo you "follow" gives a little more sustainability. My husband loves keto but once he gets down to his goal weight he's switching to paleo. But I don't know how he'll do without his cheat meal
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11-07-2013, 04:42 PM #19
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11-07-2013, 08:01 PM #20
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11-09-2013, 04:59 PM #21
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11-09-2013, 07:57 PM #22
I like them both... don't think they can be compared per se since they're pretty different - I was paleo for about a year for maintenance after losing some weight on another drastic (no bueno) diet, then I switched to keto to lose more body fat. It worked then, and keto is working now.
I like that truly primal diets cut out preservatives and promote eating "real" food, which my body responds well to. Some paleo-fad-lovers go overboard and create muffins and sauces etc to imitate the SAD foods, which is fine now and then for a treat I guess but I'd go with JERFing (yeah, I just threw another hashtag out there ) - just eating real food most times.
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