rice! a problem?

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 08:20 PM

hey to all! im gonna start bulking up starting monday so i need a good diet. i usually drink a liter of low fat milk daily, 1000g chicken, 4 egg whites. i include an apple, orange, banana for fibers to ease in digestion, i was wondering about rice? im on a high protein, high fat, low carb diet. i usually have a cup of rice daily, somewhere around 160g. im on a clean bulk. will this amount of carb make me gain more fat?? just a small not, i have 80g of rice preworkout, and the other 80 right after a workout and then after 6 pm NO CARBS WHAT SO EVER!

help a brother out. thanks.

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 08:22 PM

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hey to all! im gonna start bulking up starting monday so i need a good diet. i usually drink a liter of low fat milk daily, 1000g chicken, 4 egg whites. i include an apple, orange, banana for fibers to ease in digestion, i was wondering about rice? im on a high protein, high fat, low carb diet. i usually have a cup of rice daily, somewhere around 160g. im on a clean bulk. will this amount of carb make me gain more fat?? just a small not, i have 80g of rice preworkout, and the other 80 right after a workout and then after 6 pm NO CARBS WHAT SO EVER!

help a brother out. thanks.

it doesn't matter what time of day you eat carbs

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 08:26 PM

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it doesn't matter what time of day you eat carbs

i guess that makes sense, but im going clean, will this amount that im eating affect my Body fat gains, cz no one wants this right.

tjsunstein · 11-07-2009, 08:26 PM

Bulking calls for whole milk.

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 08:30 PM

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Bulking calls for whole milk.

i wish i knew what you meant man, and yes, i said i drink a liter of milk daily

im confused about the high carbs thing.

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 08:31 PM

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i guess that makes sense, but im going clean, will this amount that im eating affect my Body fat gains, cz no one wants this right.

break out of the ridiculous dogma of "clean"

calories are what matter, not how "clean" a food is or when you eat it during the day.

"Clean" foods will make you just as fat as "dirty" foods will

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 08:34 PM

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break out of the ridiculous dogma of "clean"

calories are what matter, not how "clean" a food is or when you eat it during the day.

"Clean" foods will make you just as fat as "dirty" foods will

i like the way you think lol, i mean i like eating whatever **** there is! but still bro, you dont need to take it overboard.

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 08:35 PM

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i like the way you think lol, i mean i like eating whatever **** there is! but still bro, you dont need to take it overboard.

take what overboard?

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 08:39 PM

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take what overboard?

as in eating too many carbs, and by that you end up with more fat than a normal healthy diet will be?

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 08:41 PM

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as in eating too many carbs, and by that you end up with more fat than a normal healthy diet will be?

carbs don't make you fat any more than other macronutrients do

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 08:43 PM

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carbs don't make you fat any more than other macronutrients do

aha, got it. i guess it does make sense since its a bulking phase anyway. thanks man.

joshrider · 11-07-2009, 08:58 PM

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it doesn't matter what time of day you eat carbs

It doesn't matter too much yes, however there are times of the day that carbohydrates are more warranted. An example would be paraworkout, where an acute increase of carbohydrate consumption can lead to 1) A better workout and 2) increased protein synthesis post-workout.

nems7 · 11-07-2009, 09:03 PM

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It doesn't matter too much yes, however there are times of the day that carbohydrates are more warranted. An example would be paraworkout, where an acute increase of carbohydrate consumption can lead to 1) A better workout and 2) increased protein synthesis post-workout.

i agree wth you on that. but what im confused about is: should i eat carbs as in 80g right after a workout?

joshrider · 11-07-2009, 09:11 PM

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i agree wth you on that. but what im confused about is: should i eat carbs as in 80g right after a workout?

PM me and I'll help you structure your diet a bit better.

CaliforniaKing · 11-07-2009, 09:16 PM

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i agree wth you on that. but what im confused about is: should i eat carbs as in 80g right after a workout?

Why not? But yes, it's perfectly fine to eat 80g of carbs after a workout. It's actually a good thing to have carbs after a workout since the insulin spike will help absorb the protein faster.

Also, just a note of advice, low carbs on a bulk is not ideal. You'll need the energy and that's what carbs give you. You can try your low carb diet and see how it works out, but if you find that you lack energy, consider increasing your carbs to at least 40% of your total diet.

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 09:21 PM

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It doesn't matter too much yes, however there are times of the day that carbohydrates are more warranted. An example would be paraworkout, where an acute increase of carbohydrate consumption can lead to 1) A better workout and 2) increased protein synthesis post-workout.

a small amount of CHO is all that is needed to maximize MPS

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 09:22 PM

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PM me and I'll help you structure your diet a bit better.

lol I wouldn't listen to him unless he provided credentials

joshrider · 11-07-2009, 09:37 PM

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lol I wouldn't listen to him unless he provided credentials

I would but that's just me.

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 09:55 PM

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I would but that's just me.

you would listen to yourself?

joshrider · 11-07-2009, 10:05 PM

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you would listen to yourself?

It doesn't matter and there is no reason to start a fight. As for your statement that it doesn't matter when you eat your carbohydrates during the day, my statement that "it doesn't matter too much" agrees with you.

RealMenDeadLift · 11-07-2009, 10:06 PM

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It doesn't matter and there is no reason to start a fight.

i'm not attacking you