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    will doing chin ups improve pull ups?

    I can do a few chin ups and zero pull ups. If I keep doing chin ups, will the muscles being developed allow me to do pull ups? I think my biceps are better developed than my back, which is why I can do chin ups but not pull ups. Thakns in advance!

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    They will help somewhat. They do work the same muscles, though the emphasis on each muscle is slightly different.

    I would probably try to find an assisted pull up machine or just do lat pull downs until you are able to bang out like 3-4 pull ups and work your way up from there.
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    Not necessarily. If you want to improve your pull ups, you need to do all sorts of compound exercises. Deadlift, bench, bent-over rows and dips will immensely help your core and thus improve your pull ups as well. 6 months ago, I too couldn't do a single pull up and only did 3 cheat chin ups. Now, I can do 8 strict form pull ups. This improvement had nothing to do with practicing pull ups or chin ups.
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    there definately will be some type of carry over but you should start working on pullups....start by doing lat pulldowns and if your gym has one an assisted pullup machine
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    Instead of chin ups try an assisted pull up machine or negatives
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    Negatives are your best bet here. If you want to take it a step further, strap 25lbs to your waist and start doing 30-second negative reps on a wide overhand grip. This will dramatically increase your strength (and size) pretty quickly.
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    Use a chair in front of the pull-up bar, and when you cant do any more or stuck in the air, use your leg to assist you, do 3 more then do slow negatives. Losing weight will make you do more pull-ups but in my opinion its a great way to bulk. Im a very heavy guy and I can do 7 pull-ups and 10 chins and its made me gain loads of muscle. If I lost alot of my weight the reps would fly up and I would have to find a belt to add weight on.

    You could always do sets of pull-ups and switch to chins once your pull-ups give in.
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    practice pulldowns to get stronger..1st time I tried a pullup I couldnt do even 1...try narrow grip n medium grip pullups as they are easier to do...last week I did a set of 25 pullups .....practice makes perfect...


    Originally Posted by pi1ot View Post
    I can do a few chin ups and zero pull ups. If I keep doing chin ups, will the muscles being developed allow me to do pull ups? I think my biceps are better developed than my back, which is why I can do chin ups but not pull ups. Thakns in advance!

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    Thank you, thank you and thank you to everyone for the great advice! I really appreciate it.
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    OP doing the move underhanded is a good way to prep for overhanded. If someone can do 20 underhands, odds are they will manage a decent number of overhands.

    The advice about training overhand grip using light resistance on a pulldown is also very good. Once you work up to doing your weight (as long as they are normal pulleys and not the kind that help you) on that machine for a decent rep range, you should be able to do around that many free.

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    Not necessarily. If you want to improve your pull ups, you need to do all sorts of compound exercises. Deadlift, bench, bent-over rows and dips will immensely help your core and thus improve your pull ups as well. 6 months ago, I too couldn't do a single pull up and only did 3 cheat chin ups. Now, I can do 8 strict form pull ups. This improvement had nothing to do with practicing pull ups or chin ups.
    Rowing or deadlifting works some of the needed muscles, but chinning works those muscles more specifically than any of the movements you listed. You do not need core strength to do either move unless by core you mean lats, which gets worked with chins. If you mean whatever work the abs or back do to keep your pelvis attached to your rib cage, that is not a big deal and still trained more by chins than the others.
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    Originally Posted by LPAthickness View Post
    Negatives are your best bet here. If you want to take it a step further, strap 25lbs to your waist and start doing 30-second negative reps on a wide overhand grip. This will dramatically increase your strength (and size) pretty quickly.

    This.


    Very slow negatives really give a great burn and help your pull ups immensely

    Try em out
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    Originally Posted by stevemckenna View Post
    Not necessarily. If you want to improve your pull ups, you need to do all sorts of compound exercises. Deadlift, bench, bent-over rows and dips will immensely help your core and thus improve your pull ups as well. 6 months ago, I too couldn't do a single pull up and only did 3 cheat chin ups. Now, I can do 8 strict form pull ups. This improvement had nothing to do with practicing pull ups or chin ups.
    This is one of the dumber posts that I have read recently. Of course chin-ups will help with pull-ups. It's damn near the same exact exercise.
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    Originally Posted by PeterGibbons316 View Post
    This is one of the dumber posts that I have read recently. Of course chin-ups will help with pull-ups. It's damn near the same exact exercise.
    that was my thought too, 8 pullups in 6 months is not something to be bragging about.
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    Originally Posted by pi1ot View Post
    I can do a few chin ups and zero pull ups. If I keep doing chin ups, will the muscles being developed allow me to do pull ups? I think my biceps are better developed than my back, which is why I can do chin ups but not pull ups. Thakns in advance!

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    Try mixed-grip pull-ups (underhand one arm and overhand on the other).
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    Originally Posted by PeterGibbons316 View Post
    This is one of the dumber posts that I have read recently. Of course chin-ups will help with pull-ups. It's damn near the same exact exercise.
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