biceps and back? same day?

[bbbbbbbbbbbbben]

hey guys i was wondering if biceps and back should be on the same day because i do that. if it is not a good idea here is my split and please change it up to ur desire.

MONDAY: rest
TUESDAY: chest tri
WEDNESDAY: biceps back abs
THURSDAY: shoulder trap legs
FRIDAY: biceps back abs
SATURDAY:chest tris
SUNDAY: shoulder trap legs

[Ironlife]

I always do back and biceps on the same day, works well and makes sense.

[jorgerod]

I always do back and biceps on the same day, works well and makes sense.

Totally Agree, THat is the basis for Push/Pull workouts, WHen you hit your back you are already using Biceps so If you do 3 Back exercises you already pre exhausted your Bi and then all you need is 3 good Bicep exercises and you have a great workout for the Biceps. This has worked for me to great results, Chest/Tri same day(Mon,Thu), Back/Bi/Legs other day(Tue,Fri)

Jorge

[Lencho]

For me, triceps after chest started to suck. I now prefer chest/biceps, back/triceps.

[Jharmes5]

When I do back, I start off with exercises that target the back the most (deadlifts, wide grip pull ups). Towards the end of the workout I start doing exercises that incorporate biceps more into the mix (hammer grip pull ups, supine grip lat pulldowns). This way when I am done my back and biceps are both hit pretty good.

[keys_10]

I always do back and biceps on the same day, works well and makes sense.

^^^^This^^^^

[Gpow3r]

It just made more sense to me to do

Chest, Core

Arms (Bi's and Tri's, Forarms)

Back, shoulder, Traps

Legs, Core, Forearms

Cardio

Rest.

Rest

its what i started doing and it just makes more sense to me so im not running around the weight room benching then curling, especially since my gym is sooooo croweded its insane.

[Here_2_Help]

For me, triceps after chest started to suck. I now prefer chest/biceps, back/triceps.

Agreed, I prefer that split personally. I usually do triceps on separate days though.

[bbbbbbbbbbbbben]

For me, triceps after chest started to suck. I now prefer chest/biceps, back/triceps.

i used to do that but then i changed it up after i realized working out my back worked out my biceps as well...IDK this is confusing hahahah

[Big_Carphuna]

Realistically, it should be on the same day as many of your back exercises involve your biceps too.
However, by the time I was getting to my bi's (isolation at the end), I was not really able to hit them with as much weight as I'd like.
So now I've added a seperate arm day on friday (push on Mon, pull on Tues), due to my lagging arms. It seems to have helped me as now I can move more weight with my arm isolations...

[TheBroBrah]

I never do back and biceps on the same day anymore. What's the point if your biceps are already fatigued during your back exercises? I prefer an indirect frequency 4-day split. Here's an example:

Monday: Back/Traps
Tuesday: Shoulders/Tris
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Chest/Biceps

This way your hitting most muscles twice a week in an idirect sort of manner. This way you get a little more frequency for your muscles.

[kenonator]

Can't give the bi's the attention they need after I crush my back. I tried doing them on the same day at one point but stopped when I realized my biceps were not growing.

[TheBroBrah]

Can't give the bi's the attention they need after I crush my back. I tried doing them on the same day at one point but stopped when I realized my biceps were not growing.

Exactly the same thing happened to me. Had pretty good triceps and no biceps. Kinda looks silly, powerlifters arms sorta look like that since they don't do much for their biceps. But they are still beasts.

[Traug]

why not just hit your back on one day and re-emphasize your bis on an opposite day in the week to ensure enough rest?

[Ironlife]

Can't give the bi's the attention they need after I crush my back. I tried doing them on the same day at one point but stopped when I realized my biceps were not growing.

Fair enough but did it occur to you that the reason you biceps are so wrecked from working your back, was because your biceps were major synergists and got an already solid workload?

In addition to that; you can then do what you can with the bicep movements and really tear them. So this means by the end not only have you used biceps for synergists and secondary muscles during the back session but you have now finished them off totally with training biceps directly.. imo there is nothing comparable.

[DaDeadLift]

Fair enough but did it occur to you that the reason you biceps are so wrecked from working your back, was because your biceps were major synergists and got an already solid workload?

In addition to that; you can then do what you can with the bicep movements and really tear them. So this means by the end not only have you used biceps for synergists and secondary muscles during the back session but you have now finished them off totally with training biceps directly.. imo there is nothing comparable.

usually do this myself, back first then finish off whats left of biceps.

[Ironlife]

usually do this myself, back first then finish off whats left of biceps.

It makes sense doesnt it?

[highlightstick]

I never do back and biceps on the same day anymore. What's the point if your biceps are already fatigued during your back exercises? I prefer an indirect frequency 4-day split. Here's an example:

Monday: Back/Traps
Tuesday: Shoulders/Tris
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Chest/Biceps

This way your hitting most muscles twice a week in an idirect sort of manner. This way you get a little more frequency for your muscles.

Same thing for me. I have tried many ways and this works best for me.

[flangmasterj]

I've always hit my bis and tris on their own day. I would rather hit them fresh than try and work them after a hard back or chest workout.

Tues: Chest
Wed: Quads/hams
Thurs: Back
Fri: Shoulders
Sat: Calves
Sun: Bis/tris

[DaDeadLift]

It makes sense doesnt it?

Yea, I mean you might as well finish what you started O_O

[ChrisCuts]

I usually do triceps and biceps the same day and do back and chest the same day..It's whatever works for you

[joenj07087]

I usually do triceps and biceps the same day and do back and chest the same day..It's whatever works for you

the above is me also..for the longest time been doing that too

[chocolatemilk]

back and tris chest and bis if you want to make better progress makes more sense to do it this way

[PuffinMyLye]

Most people won't get the best out of their biceps workout if they train them after back since they will most certainly be fatigued from your back workout. My split is as follows and it works great for me:

Mon: Chest/Biceps
Tue: Legs/Abs
Wed: Off
Thur: Shoulders/Triceps
Fri: Back/Abs
Sat: Off
Sun: Off

[bbbbbbbbbbbbben]

I usually do triceps and biceps the same day and do back and chest the same day..It's whatever works for you

just curious but, if u work ur triceps and bis on monday and then work your chest and back on tuesday, how would that work out because doesnt working out ur chest involve triceps and wouldnt ur triceps be sore from working them out the previous day?

[HotGhettoMess]

just curious but, if u work ur triceps and bis on monday and then work your chest and back on tuesday, how would that work out because doesnt working out ur chest involve triceps and wouldnt ur triceps be sore from working them out the previous day?

Then in that case, do the back/chest day first, and either rest the following day (or work on legs), and then get to your biceps/triceps on the next day.

[timhet]

All valid points, but I think it depends on whether any bodyparts are lagging. If you have small biceps, then do them on a separate day. In my case, my biceps have always been in proportion with the rest of my body so I just do one, maybe two exercises after I've done my back.

[musicianman]

For me, triceps after chest started to suck. I now prefer chest/biceps, back/triceps.

Me too.

[musicianman]

hey guys i was wondering if biceps and back should be on the same day because i do that. if it is not a good idea here is my split and please change it up to ur desire.

MONDAY: rest
TUESDAY: chest tri
WEDNESDAY: biceps back abs
THURSDAY: shoulder trap legs
FRIDAY: biceps back abs
SATURDAY:chest tris
SUNDAY: shoulder trap legs

What's up with this volume, though?

Friday is unnecessary and isn't giving you enough time to recover, and Sunday is too... Do something more like this:

MONDAY: rest
TUESDAY: chest bis
WEDNESDAY: rest
THURSDAY: shoulder traps
FRIDAY: biceps back abs
SATURDAY: rest
SUNDAY: shoulder trap legs

Or, considering you're 135 pounds and a beginner, pick something up like starting strength if you want to make huge strength and size gains.

[Wintersole]

I used to do the back/bi's split as well. I don't do that anymore. After a hard back day my bi's weren't really getting any additional benefit. I have a separate day now to kind of top my arms off later in the week and it works well for me but naturally won't work that way for all.