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    Yes, I will help out...I'm keen to break into the industry
    I'm sure we can find a job for you at FitX. We need small army of helpers to make it work.
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    I'm sure we can find a job for you at FitX. We need small army of helpers to make it work.
    Awesome m8

    Pm me with ur thoughts, or I'll come see you next time I'm in..

    I've been invited to do a special segment by a protein company so I'm happy to help where needed
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    What started out to be a thread just to boost post counts, turns out to be one of the best potential threads here. Awesome personal stories Tony!

    On another note, there have been a lot of Lee Haney threads here lately. I feel Arnold, Ronnie and Haney are all GOATS in their own right for entirely different reasons. I was wondering if by any chance you have any stories, or better yet, any pics of Lee Haney that could show how really legendary he was. I think us younger fans who weren't able to see the older era greats compete would appreciate it a lot.
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    quality thread and personal story

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    We need pics now!
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    Originally Posted by TonyDoherty View Post
    Yes I saw Dorian compete many times.

    I emceed his 1st USA Pro Show, Night Of Champions in NYC, he lost to Benaziza, I think that and the Olympia to Haney were the only times he was ever beaten in his pro career.

    I was at his 1st Olympia appearance in Orlando Florida and I was at his 1st Olympia win in Helsinki Finland. In fact I was back stage with him and in the press pit at the show.
    He guest posed at my show after that and it was his first guest pose ever as Mr Olympia.

    I will post up some pics later. I was also at the Olympia in 93, 94 and 97 from memory.

    To answer your question, pics do not do him justice. In real life he look like he was carved out of granite, hard as nails and when he flexed he just got better and better. I remember being backstage with Sonny and seeing him walk in in clothes thinking he wasn't that big, then he would take his shirt off and have that much hanging muscle that it defied logic. He raised the stakes in pro bodybuilding and was an incredible athlete.

    I remember interviewing him and asking him how could he beat Flex and Levrone and these guys with their genetics etc. His answer was simple, every time they broke their diet, he didn't, every time they had a crap workout or a day off he just went harder, he knew that they had potential in spades but he knew that he was mentally stronger than all of them put together.
    I had not seen Doz for many years, here is a shot of us catching up last year.

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    We need pics now!
    I have only just began.
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    OK, a never before seen shot that I took of Dorian in 1997.

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    I have only just began.
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    Tony, quality shot of Dorian there, any of him in his prime (no injuries) that you've taken yourself? Also, amazing insight into Dorian about his attitude and will to be the best
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    OK, a never before seen shot that I took of Dorian in 1997.

    Unreal!!! Now I am getting really excited. Really appreciate these pics mate!
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    Fantastic thread! You're living a dream right now, just shows how hard work pays off
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    Hi Tony

    I also know that Vince Taylor also was at your gym previously. Did he guest pose or compete in a contest you were promoting?
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    Cool shot of Kai Greene walking on my stage in Melbourne circa 2009.

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    Originally Posted by Boba_Bulk View Post
    What started out to be a thread just to boost post counts, turns out to be one of the best potential threads here. Awesome personal stories Tony!

    On another note, there have been a lot of Lee Haney threads here lately. I feel Arnold, Ronnie and Haney are all GOATS in their own right for entirely different reasons. I was wondering if by any chance you have any stories, or better yet, any pics of Lee Haney that could show how really legendary he was. I think us younger fans who weren't able to see the older era greats compete would appreciate it a lot.
    I dont have any shots of Haney at my fingertips but somewhere would have have shots of him in his last Olympia. I had him here in the months after he announced his retirement. He was a very classy unit, good family man and a great representative of the sport. I enjoyed interviewing him and even got to smash a few beers with him after the tour. That was pretty cool and probably my highlight of having him here. After a couple of beers he really loosened up and was a very funny dude, in fact had me in stitches.

    Haney was a great man and in his day was the best we had ever seen.

    From a physique point of view, everyone talked about his back and v-shape. What I didn't realise until I saw him defeat Yates in his last Mr. O, was how thick his chest was when he turned to the side. He was huge and at the time unbeatable.
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    Hey mate, I was at the Brunswick gym today!! I tried them all while I was in town, but I reckon the Dandenong was my fave (despite the trek to get there), closely followed by Brunswick. I saw you there was going to say hi, but I think you were training and gave me an intense look when I came in hahaha, decided to just leave you be
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    Originally Posted by jiveinhere View Post
    Hey mate, I was at the Brunswick gym today!! I tried them all while I was in town, but I reckon the Dandenong was my fave (despite the trek to get there), closely followed by Brunswick. I saw you there was going to say hi, but I think you were training and gave me an intense look when I came in hahaha, decided to just leave you be
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    Haha will do next time

    Btw I love how the pics are all categorised according to era at the Brunswick one!
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    Originally Posted by greyhoundfan View Post
    Hi Tony

    I also know that Vince Taylor also was at your gym previously. Did he guest pose or compete in a contest you were promoting?
    Ok Vince and I go way back, I love the guy. I saw him win the Arnold back in early 90s, it was the day he unveiled his terminator routine. In a way it was a day that changed bodybuilding. His routine was like nothing ever seen before. The control he had over his body was incredible and what he did to the crowd and judges set a new standard. He was skinless that day, he beat out Benaziza in 2nd and Sonny in 3rd. I guessed his weight at 225 but sitting next to his wife, she explained he was only 205lbs that day. Just goes to show how much bigger you look when you are peeled like that.

    Over the next years I tried to get Vince to Australia many, many times. For what ever reason it never worked out with dates, times etc. So we stayed in touch but that was it for a long time.

    Forward wind to 2006. I was putting together the Australian Pro GP which was going to be on the Gold Coast for the 1st time. I heard that Vince in his late 40s was attempting a comeback, so after some negotiation and a bit of luck, we made it happen. Both him And Francis Benfatto made a comeback that day, so as a promoter, it was one of the biggest highlights of my career.

    Vince qualified for the Olympia that day, he returned the next year, this time in Melbourne and qualified again.

    In my opinion, he is a hall of famer, top 10 of all time and a bodybuilding legend. He was a great guest and has been one of my biggest supporters, he would do anything to help promote the show, pure class. Best arms and calves of his day as well as a ripper bloke.

    I will post some pics later, on iPad this time round.

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    Tony, can you post some pics of the guys having a braai (BBQ) or riding the Harleys? Behind the scenes stuff.
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    Tony, can you post some pics of the guys having a braai (BBQ) or riding the Harleys? Behind the scenes stuff.
    Here you go, Big Jay in my Brunswick gym.

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    Wow, some great pics Tony, glad you're still keeping them coming! The Chopper looks cool but also look pretty unconfortable to ride? like a stretched over position? is it a bad as it looks? lol
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    love the pics, the story, amazing stuff tony, many thanks for taking the time and effort out of your busy lifestyle to answer a few of our measly questions and post some amazing pics that i hope a lot more are on their way!!
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    Originally Posted by TonyDoherty View Post
    OK here is my story, thanks for asking.

    I started out in the gym business in about 1985, I had been working at a fitness centre in my home town for a year or two and saw an opportunity to buy it. I thought I knew everything and I paid way too much for it. At the time there was two gyms in a town of 100,000 people. Within three years there were nine gyms and the market share had shrunk. I still thought I knew it all and pushed ahead, losing money every month. I had gone into it with my parents backing and after the first few years just about lost the lot, including the family home. Being a cocky ****er, I just didn't get it and continued to think I knew it all, as young men do.

    By 1994 things had become really bad, the town was over saturated by gyms, two more had opened up in my street and the wolves were circling. By then I was becoming well established as a bodybuilding promoter in Melbourne and knew that I needed to move quickly or lose the lot. I just could not see a way out. Then it hit me. I went to see the guy that had opened across the road, I knew his lease was coming up and he wanted to grow. I offered him my lease, all of my members and some equipment. I would walk away and he would get a better building and double his membership overnight. My only condition was that he would honour the members that had paid upfront, after all my folks still had to live int he town and I had to walk away with some dignity.

    My dad has always been a partner in the business and we have become very close over the years, he still does all the bookwork and accounts which allows me to forge ahead.

    I opened up in Brunswick, Melbourne in a small warehouse (400m2) with a truckload of worn out equipment, zero members and a dream. I had learned a lot but still thought I knew it all, there would be some more hard medicine ahead, all I had going for me was that I was too driven, stubborn or stupid to quit. At that time all I wanted was somewhere to train, somewhere to live and a Harley Davison motorcycle (one day).

    The first year I lost everything to keep the doors open, house, cars, furniture, you name it I lost it. The phone or power got cut every month for the first year, at least. I had no where to live and no car, all I had was a vertical grill and a rice cooker. I slept on the couch at the gym most nights for that first 9 months, I would get up in the morning and walk up to the main road to get a paper and a coffee. This way it looked like I had come from somewhere when I would walk to the gym to open up at 6AM. I would work through to 9PM, most days on my own until everyone had left, once again I would lock up and pretend to head home until everyone had gone, then sneak back and let myself back in.

    I stayed with Sonny Schmidt's family a couple of nights a week and his brother Pale stated working at the gym. They were very kind to me and that Samoan food kept me going. When Sonny moved back to Australia we managed to get a little rental across from the gym, it was a dump but worked great at the time. I started training like crazy with Sonny for the Olympia's and the gym started to get a following. People would come to watch us train and I started to get a few clients.

    I still had nothing to show, but the gym was starting to go better and I had paid back most of the bills that I had bought with me. Once I started to get on top, I would buy a piece of equipment every time that I had some money in the bank. It was 6 years before started to get a regular wage but I managed to hustle up enough to survive between contests, personal training and a bit of debt collecting.

    It was about this time that I started to wise up and realise that I didn't know everything at all. By now I had met Amanda (my wife to be) and we were starting to live a bit better. I managed to put food on the table, but still no car or flash living. At least I had killed my ego and learned a lot about myself and people from all walks of life. Looking back, going hungry and losing just about everything was the best thing that happened to me, no easy ride and looking down the barrel every day was probably what I needed to wake me up.

    By 1998 we had kind of out grown the small building and the landlord wanted to turn it into apartments. So after finally getting ahead, (still no wage) but I owned all my equipment and had started to get our name out there. It was then that I found our current building, it was three times the size and the rent was also three times the size. However I have always thought that you have to risk something that matters. So with that we moved into Weston Street and it was like starting all over again. We went 24:7 immediately and things got really bad again. It was a good gym but with the overheads going up so much, it was impossible to make a buck. For the next three years I fought every day, worked twelve hour days and did everything myself, cleaning, maintenance, graphics, mail-outs, contests and day to day management. Things slowly started to turn around. I kept my policy of buying equipment every time I could, I would scour the internet and auction sites to find the best stuff I could at the right price. I kept pushing myself and by the time my first child was born in 2002, I was earning wages every week and business was looking better than before.

    In 2001 I held our first pro show and the brand started to get known worldwide. We started to attract all types of athletes form Olympians to AFL footballers and power athletes from everywhere. Around 2004 we launched Muscle TV and I had started to work as a strength and conditioning coach at the Carlton Football Club, which gave us more credibility and a bigger following. Over the next 5 years it started to work, I kept buying equipment and expanding the gym. To this day I own every piece in every gym and don't lease any equipment at all. It keeps your overheads down and takes away most of the stress.

    Three years ago I had a opportunity to buy an old hardcore gym that was rundown and going broke, it was in a great location and just need some love. I had to risk everything all over again. With the encouragement of my wife and family I went for it. We fixed it up nice and it is now very busy day and night. A couple of years ago I had the same opportunity in the middle of the City, it was in worse shape and provided the biggest challenge of all. It is also flying now and to have Tiger Woods train there for the last two weeks was the icing on the cake. We have done the same again North of where we are and also in my original home town. The last two are still to break even but heading in the right direction and getting busier every week.

    The expos and shows have taken over a lot of my time now but have huge potential. I now have 62 staff and 4 of the gyms run 24:7, every day of the year. We have four healthy kids and live pretty well. I have never forgotten where I have come from and love to see others reach their potential. I still spend every day in the gym and wouldn't change it for the world. I am still working on the gym to make it better and will never stop trying to improve the product and the brand.

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    Thanks for posting this, inspirational for anyone trying to start out in business or even running a small business in a weak economy. I am glad to see that I am not weird or abnormal for sleeping in my warehouse and also on the garage floor when cash flow got really bad, reading this just makes me want to fight harder in our bad retail economy right now.
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