So I've read a couple of topics on this but they don't seem to answer my question.
What's better? Should I do both?
For example here's my current back and bicep workout routine:
1. Chinups 3 sets
2. Lat pulldowns 3 sets
3. Iso-lateral rows 3 sets
4. Bicep curls 3 sets
Should I just add bent over rows to my workout to make 15 sets? Or should I get rid of something and replace it with bent over rows?
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Thread: Lat pulldowns vs bent over rows?
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06-29-2012, 12:28 AM #1
Lat pulldowns vs bent over rows?
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Depends on your definition of huge... But if you were forced to do only one exercise for back then chin ups would be one of the best.
OP, you cannot substitute a vertical pull from below with a horizontal pulling movement. You should have BOTH.
When I do chin ups I feel a stretch in my lats that I don't get with pull ups. I think it is probably a good thing.
Depending on the way you do chin ups they may not be significant bicep builders. I just use my arms as hooks as I would in pull ups. Chin ups feel better on my back. It ultimately makes little difference though.Last edited by NZninja101; 06-29-2012 at 02:00 AM.
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Do this OP.
Also this isn't quite related to your question but I just wanted to say that wide grip pulldowns or pull ups do not necessarily make your lats wider. The lats are just a muscle that cannot be shaped. They can simply grow, or shrink. If they grow they get wider. Wide grip just takes ROM out of the movement and makes it a little harder. It also fcuks up my shoulders. You may be different. So unless you really want to do wide grip pull ups or pulldowns, just use a closer grip.
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06-29-2012, 05:27 AM #20
you already have chin ups in which are better than pulldowns if you keep adding weight to them imo. Do bent over rows. I hope your doing deadlifts whenever you hit legs then cuz they will build a massive back
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06-29-2012, 05:27 AM #21
Once youre doing 25 pull-ups its obviously a resistance exercise and isnt going to build muscle. when youre over 10 reps every set youre supposed to add weight. you can build huge effing lats from pull ups alone. have you ever seen someone doing pull-ups with 80 lbs hanging off them that had an unimpressive back?
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07-01-2012, 04:11 AM #30
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Sure.
It really comes down to the 'E' word, that is, 'optimal', that you might have done better with a closer grip. But this is really just minor detail. Besides there are plenty of bbers who do them wide and have great back development. I just have the opinion that people should have a closer grip as a default grip. But they can do wide grip if they really want to.
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