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    Colorado school bars transgendered 1st-grader from using girls' restroom

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    Live and let live as long it's not hurting anyone els but is this taking it to far?
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    I've never really put much thought into this before. I can see both sides of the issue, especially how it will make others feel when they are older. Going to have to think about this one for a while before I can make a decision.
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    Originally Posted by Lites10 View Post
    I've never really put much thought into this before. I can see both sides of the issue, especially how it will make others feel when they are older. Going to have to think about this one for a while before I can make a decision.
    Idk man, it's a 6 year guy old with a "gender identity issue". I think letting him use the girls bathroom sets a bad example, they're being to lenient with the kid. Maybe he does have that issue, but at 6 years old is that to young to really be able to explore it?
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    HE is a HE. Not a she. HE has a penis, so HE should use the Men's room.

    This is a simple thing. Just because a kid wants to believe that HE is a female doesn't mean HE should have access to the Women's room.
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    ... HE has a penis, so HE should use the Men's room.
    Tough to argue with that logic.
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    Well, how would they feel if a girl wanted to go into the men's room and pee into a urinal?
    Probably wouldn't want that, so I agree with Ven.
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    The school is willing to give him access to the faculty & nurse's washroom (which are "gender neutral") as a compromise, I think they are being pretty reasonable & making the best of a poor situation.
    Seems like the parents are the unreasonable ones here & just making an even bigger show out of the child's life.
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    HE is a HE. Not a she. HE has a penis, so HE should use the Men's room.

    This is a simple thing. Just because a kid wants to believe that HE is a female doesn't mean HE should have access to the Women's room.
    Do you believe there is an age cutoff for this analysis or that anyone with a penis is a male and should not be given access to the facilities of the gender with which he or she associates?
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    HE is a HE. Not a she. HE has a penis, so HE should use the Men's room.

    This is a simple thing. Just because a kid wants to believe that HE is a female doesn't mean HE should have access to the Women's room.

    So what if later in life "he" decides to undergo a gender change. The day before surgery "he" should use mens restrooms, and the day after "she" should use the womens? The mental state has not changed what so ever. Maybe being forced to use the mens washroom now would make "him" feel uncomfortable because that's not how they identify themselves.
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    I don't understand. So the boy was born a boy, is still a boy, has boy organs, but wants to be a girl?
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    Originally Posted by FitnessCPA View Post
    I don't understand. So the boy was born a boy, is still a boy, has boy organs, but wants to be a girl?
    Yes

    6 year olds can't consent to sex but apparently they can consent to sex reassignment
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    There is plenty of research showing that these individuals often and incessantly will plead with their parents that they are the other gender, even from the age of 3. Sex and gender are different.
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    Originally Posted by bballbrett5 View Post
    Do you believe there is an age cutoff for this analysis or that anyone with a penis is a male and should not be given access to the facilities of the gender with which he or she associates?
    I believe that if you have a penis you go in the men's room. If you have a vagina you go in the women's room. It's that simple.

    If you have the gall to get operated on and switch it up, then you deserve the privilege of using the other room.
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    I believe that if you have a penis you go in the men's room. If you have a vagina you go in the women's room. It's that simple.

    If you have the gall to get operated on and switch it up, then you deserve the privilege of using the other room.
    What is the interest being protected in segregating usage of facilities by whatever sex organ you have at the time?
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    I think we as a people should all just stand together around a huge pit and piss as one. Be you black, white, innie, or outie. Let us all come together...and relieve ourselves.
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    Originally Posted by bballbrett5 View Post
    What is the interest being protected in segregating usage of facilities by whatever sex organ you have at the time?
    its so that the easily offended wont have anything to be offended about.

    the kid is six. i shudder to think what his parents are like.
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    Originally Posted by bballbrett5 View Post
    What is the interest being protected in segregating usage of facilities by whatever sex organ you have at the time?
    Seriously? I hope you are trolling.

    The last thing 6 year old girls need to worry about in the bathroom is a 6 year old boy being there. So much unnecessary confusion.

    If you want to take this further, you need to segregate to prevent bad things from happening.
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    HE is a HE. Not a she. HE has a penis, so HE should use the Men's room.

    This is a simple thing. Just because a kid wants to believe that HE is a female doesn't mean HE should have access to the Women's room.









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    There is plenty of research showing that these individuals often and incessantly will plead with their parents that they are the other gender, even from the age of 3. Sex and gender are different.


    Identifying with the gender assigned to an individual at birth = cisgender
    Feeling disjointed from the gender assigned at birth = trans*gender

    Misgendering someone purposely because they don't conform to the gender you THINK they should be = ******* scum of the earth
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    I feel so bad for people - especially kids in their situation I wouldn't know what to suggest.

    I have a friend who is off doing this treatment, she is for all intents and purposes a man. The hormone treatment and surgery will help, maybe, who's to say really?
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    You guys cannot seriously say you would be ok with a boy being in the same restroom as your daughter...
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    inb4 a kid who thinks they are a dinosaur is ACTUALLY a dinosaur...
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    inb4 a kid who thinks they are a dinosaur is ACTUALLY a dinosaur...
    When I was a kid, when I was a little boy, I always wanted to be a dinosaur, I wanted to be a Tyrannosaurus Rex more than anything in the world, I made my arms short and I roamed the back yard, I chased the neighborhood cats, I growled and I roared, everybody knew me and was afraid of me, and one day my dad said "Bobby you are 17, it's time to throw childish things aside" and I said "OK Pop", but he didn't really say that he said that "Stop being a fukcing dinosaur and get a job".
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post

    Identifying with the gender assigned to an individual at birth = cisgender
    Feeling disjointed from the gender assigned at birth = trans*gender

    Misgendering someone purposely because they don't conform to the gender you THINK they should be = ******* scum of the earth
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    You guys cannot seriously say you would be ok with a boy being in the same restroom as your daughter...
    Absolutely not. Not saying this child doesn't have gender issues but it's not like this child is having to go through anything traumatic by using the boys' restroom(I could be wrong). It's not like this child is having to urinate out in a field while other kids can use the restroom. Adequate facilities are provided. I don't see any discrimination here.
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    Poor kid. I just hope that the parents are able to shield her from how ugly all of this will surely get. The years to come are going to be hard enough.
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    Put it down
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    Originally Posted by ven33 View Post
    You guys cannot seriously say you would be ok with a boy being in the same restroom as your daughter...
    No, but I'd be perfectly fine if a girl with a penis used the female restroom.

    As long as this little girl acts the same as most little girls do in the restroom, I don't understand how it's a problem.

    Have any of you even been in a woman's restroom? I wouldn't know if the person in the stall next to me had 3 tentacles and an extra arm in their pants let alone a penis.
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    No, but I'd be perfectly fine if a girl with a penis used the female restroom.

    As long as this little girl acts the same as most little girls do in the restroom, I don't understand how it's a problem.

    Have any of you even been in a woman's restroom? I wouldn't know if the person in the stall next to me had 3 tentacles and an extra arm in their pants let alone a penis.
    So if I think I'm a Triceratops....does that mean I'm a Triceratops?
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    Oh lawd. Illini v. Ven. These are always good
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    Originally Posted by Leprechauns1021 View Post
    Oh lawd. Illini v. Ven. These are always good
    Nah, I'd rather discuss the situation surrounding this 6 year old, not attempt to engage another one.
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