Calling out gifted nutrition/Phil Heath

[Ryanreece]

Why do you not accept negative reviews on your site? Do you think that is an honest business model? What is the point of allowing reviews if you only allow the positive ones?

[TBU720]

In b4 OP's world collapses when he realizes that a great majority of reviews on sites all over the internet are filtered, censored, or paid for.

[Ryanreece]

Just because everyone is doing it, DOESNT make it right. Wouldnt it be better to hear peoples opinions and try to improve the products?

[NYCLegend21]

Just because everyone is doing it, DOESNT make it right. Wouldnt it be better to hear peoples opinions and try to improve the products?

How do you know they aren't listening to the opinions and trying to improve the products?

Obviously a company isn't going to want potential customers to visit their site and read negative reviews, but I'm sure they still take the negative reviews into consideration for when it comes time to revamp the formulas.

[fretslayer]

Is anyone really using any of their products?? I don't hear anything about that line, aside from Phil himself.

[TropicalSunset]

Is anyone really using any of their products?? I don't hear anything about that line, aside from Phil himself.

Lol, this. As the most unpopular Mr. O in forever, Phil must not be getting the sales he was hoping to get. Plus more and more people are aware than the supplement industry is a big scam anyway.

And Phil himself as the ambassador and owner is a HORRIBLE salesperson. He constantly exaggerates and outright lies about his products, which with someone of his visibility is gonna catch up to him really fast.

[Ryanreece]

Lol, this. As the most unpopular Mr. O in forever, Phil must not be getting the sales he was hoping to get. Plus more and more people are aware than the supplement industry is a big scam anyway.

And Phil himself as the ambassador and owner is a HORRIBLE salesperson. He constantly exaggerates and outright lies about his products, which with someone of his visibility is gonna catch up to him really fast.

Probably so the two products i tried were garbage

[endurancell]

Is anyone really using any of their products?? I don't hear anything about that line, aside from Phil himself.

This, I think the only ones dumb enough to buy it are die hard fans or international folk that don't know much about supps/bodybuilding. I've seen it in Dom Mazzetti videos though in the background on his counter

[fretslayer]

Lol, this. As the most unpopular Mr. O in forever, Phil must not be getting the sales he was hoping to get. Plus more and more people are aware than the supplement industry is a big scam anyway.

And Phil himself as the ambassador and owner is a HORRIBLE salesperson. He constantly exaggerates and outright lies about his products, which with someone of his visibility is gonna catch up to him really fast.

Probably so the two products i tried were garbage

This, I think the only ones dumb enough to buy it are die hard fans or international folk that don't know much about supps/bodybuilding. I've seen it in Dom Mazzetti videos though in the background on his counter

Thanks for the replies guys. I just don't get the vibe like it's doing well. I only see it getting bashed if it is mentioned, which usually it isn't. Jay and Ronnie's lines are good examples of signature products that have some level of visibility and /or seemingly successful sales so far. The gifted stuff just seems so generic and phony.

[Ryanreece]

Thanks for the replies guys. I just don't get the vibe like it's doing well. I only see it getting bashed if it is mentioned, which usually it isn't. Jay and Ronnie's lines are good examples of signature products that have some level of visibility and /or seemingly successful sales so far. The gifted stuff just seems so generic and phony.

no problem and i totally agree. Ronnies stuff is really good

[Unbiasedfan]

surprised that the pewpew crew is dishonest...surprised that a supplement company is dishonest...hell, surprised that a business endeavor is dishonest.

[fretslayer]

no problem and i totally agree. Ronnies stuff is really good

I saw some of the sleep/GH from RC on clearance at a local GNC. I may pick it up just to add it to the stack and give ol Ron some support.

[Mikey13Buddha]

I'm intrigued to hear how a 180lb person decides that a bodybuilding supplement is garbage. No knock, I'm genuinely interested to hear how you came to that conclusion.

I know a couple actual bodybuilders who use and love his stuff. I have only tried 2 scoops and it was fine.

[Jonphinguyen7]

I saw some of the sleep/GH from RC on clearance at a local GNC. I may pick it up just to add it to the stack and give ol Ron some support.

Man Ronnie's Chocolate Chip Whey Mix was so unbelievably amazing.

[AestheticG0d]

I'm intrigued to hear how a 180lb person decides that a bodybuilding supplement is garbage. No knock, I'm genuinely interested to hear how you came to that conclusion.

I know a couple actual bodybuilders who use and love his stuff. I have only tried 2 scoops and it was fine.

What does that even have to do with anything...? Let's say the OP took some of Phil Heaths protein powder and it tasted like chit to him. If he was 250lbs at 5% bodyfat would it taste any different? Same with a his preworkout. If he took some and said he didn't feel anything from it that's his opinion which is what product reviews are based off of. You don't have to be a bodybuilder to review a damn product.

[Unbiasedfan]

I'm intrigued to hear how a 180lb person decides that a bodybuilding supplement is garbage.

Probably in the same way you decided "its fine" after 2 whole scoops. Or maybe they just understood that the products pushed by pros have absolutely nothing to do on how they look.

[Mikey13Buddha]

What does that even have to do with anything...? Let's say the OP took some of Phil Heaths protein powder and it tasted like chit to him. If he was 250lbs at 5% bodyfat would it taste any different? Same with a his preworkout. If he took some and said he didn't feel anything from it that's his opinion which is what product reviews are based off of. You don't have to be a bodybuilder to review a damn product.

You just gave an example of what I'm asking. I'm wondering HOW HE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION, SPECIFICALLY. Depending on the reasoning, you would, in fact have to have an idea what you're talking about. I've been told a million times that great products are trash and vice versa. I said "no knock" as I didn't want to offend him (I been his size and much smaller, so that's all love w/ me) but I literally want to know his process for deciding, so I can use that information to decide if I see this as something worth even trying out.

Most of the people who tell me a given supplement is "garbage" have no basis for it and just say it's the taste, which is generally a pretty ridiculous reason to use such a strong word as garbage. Does it not mix, are the nutrient details not accurate, does vanilla taste like french vanilla, etc, etc. The 1 shake I tried mixed well and tasted similar to my Dymatize powder (which I LOVE).

[Mikey13Buddha]

Probably in the same way you decided "its fine" after 2 whole scoops. Or maybe they just understood that the products pushed by pros have absolutely nothing to do on how they look.

I love how sensitive we are in here, it's cute. I said "it was fine" after I tried one shake. That was an honest description and not super pointed. He called it "garbage" which is quite scolding and to me, sounds like an average dude just looking to hate on Phil. Some reasoning is all I'm asking for. If it's a taste/mixing thing, I'd disagree but, of course, my experience is with just two scoops of one flavor of whey.

[203mh]

I wonder how fans would be if Kai released the same exact products under Predator Nutrition.

[Unbiasedfan]

He called it "garbage" which is quite scolding and to me, sounds like an average dude just looking to hate on Phil.

He actually is a "phil hater", and my first post on this thread was going to be a simple "neged" based on the title and his recent posts, but if gifted nutrition is in fact eliminating bad reviews, i think it should be mentioned, because it shows how weak their selling product is and how much faith they have in it.

I will never understand why anyone gives two fuks about how a natural supp tastes or mixes. If it actually worked, i would sniff it if needed.

[flangmasterj]

Hahaha "calling out".

[Mikey13Buddha]

He actually is a "phil hater", and my first post on this thread was going to be a simple "neged" based on the title and his recent posts, but if gifted nutrition is in fact eliminating bad reviews, i think it should be mentioned, because it shows how weak their selling product is and how much faith they have in it.

I will never understand why anyone gives two fuks about how a natural supp tastes or mixes. If it actually worked, i would sniff it if needed.

That's all fair and to the point. I work with tons of big companies in various fields. It's completely normal to eliminate bad reviews. They actually are often filtered into a different system and handled by a specific team. This is a standard practice and I'd bet money every supplement we like does the same thing. We should "call them out" too. I'm all about being fair to everyone. That's just me though.

[endurancell]

I wonder how fans would be if Kai released the same exact products under Predator Nutrition.

Most likely the same, people are getting tired of these pro supp lines

[matthew2474]

Most likely the same, people are getting tired of these pro supp lines

Lol yeah right. If Kai had a supp line people would be all over it. Not even a big fan of Phil but I'm realistic.

[cedricnumerouno]

Lol yeah right. If Kai had a supp line people would be all over it. Not even a big fan of Phil but I'm realistic.

Same things already happened with Kai and his "masterpiece" hoodies.

[Unbiasedfan]

I seem to remember people mocking secret sauce...

[cedricnumerouno]

I seem to remember people mocking secret sauce...

Nah you see Kai has to do that, you know being an orphan and his childhood, you know it's sad, see his apartment and all that. You should feel sorry for him you know.

But **** Phil for doing the same thing

[Ryanreece]

I'm intrigued to hear how a 180lb person decides that a bodybuilding supplement is garbage. No knock, I'm genuinely interested to hear how you came to that conclusion.

I know a couple actual bodybuilders who use and love his stuff. I have only tried 2 scoops and it was fine.

you COULD see why its garbage but there are no honest reviews and mine didnt get posted

[Ryanreece]

What does that even have to do with anything...? Let's say the OP took some of Phil Heaths protein powder and it tasted like chit to him. If he was 250lbs at 5% bodyfat would it taste any different? Same with a his preworkout. If he took some and said he didn't feel anything from it that's his opinion which is what product reviews are based off of. You don't have to be a bodybuilder to review a damn product.

this

[Ryanreece]

Hahaha "calling out".

yes