2012 Mr. Olympia PICS You May Not Have Seen!!!

[jahaa]

MM was the biggest landslide of all poses and goes to Phil easily

I had it as

Fdb-kai
SC-Kai
FLS-Kai
BDB-kai
RLS-Phil
ST-Phil
A/T-Kai
MM-Phil
-
A logical observation was Kai was missing some traps and shoulders while Phil was missing width still. Phil looked a bit more muscular and thicker in quarter turns with more pop.

Also, in my eyes Kai won more poses but the poses that Phil won he won it by just a litter bigger margin.
it wasnt by too much but i definitely had Kai winning

Agree with most of this, except for the RLS which i think Kai wins. His legs are just straigt of better thats 50% of the pose, Hes also wider and thicker then Phil, only thing hes losing on are detail in the upper back. And i dont understand how that can win him the whole pose.

[Tb0282]

Agree with most of this, except for the RLS which i think Kai wins. His legs are just straigt of better thats 50% of the pose, Hes also wider and thicker then Phil, only thing hes losing on are detail in the upper back. And i dont understand how that can win him the whole pose.

Because a rear lat spread is a back pose, not a leg pose. More detail in the back would win it imo. Kai definitely has more width though, so thats another big factor with the RLS

[luckynumber13as]

Because a rear lat spread is a back pose, not a leg pose. More detail in the back would win it imo. Kai definitely has more width though, so thats another big factor with the RLS

The RLS in my opinion is very close. The RDB is a landslide win for Kai and the FDB is a landslide win for Phil. RLS is a toss up. MM is Phil's. FLS is Kai's. Side Tricep is Phil. Side Chest is Kai. It is really SO close!

[Tb0282]

The RLS in my opinion is very close. The RDB is a landslide win for Kai and the FDB is a landslide win for Phil. RLS is a toss up. MM is Phil's. FLS is Kai's. Side Tricep is Phil. Side Chest is Kai. It is really SO close!

I agree with those conclusions actually. I think the one poster said it perfectly, they were both Mr. Olympia's, no matter who would have won, it would have been fair, it was really just that close.

[luckynumber13as]

they were both Mr. Olympia's, no matter who would have won, it would have been fair, it was really just that close.

I believe that poster was me.

[philRN]

Kai's left arm (tricep) looks off in the FDB pic... Big Phil fan here, but Kai looked great. Very close.

Rhoden came in diced and I'm on the bandwagon there now!

[jahaa]

Because a rear lat spread is a back pose, not a leg pose. More detail in the back would win it imo. Kai definitely has more width though, so thats another big factor with the RLS

That's not how pro bbing is judged or atleast not supposed to be judged. Its about the whole physique in every pose.

[luckynumber13as]

Kai's left arm (tricep) looks off in the FDB pic... Big Phil fan here, but Kai looked great. Very close.

Rhoden came in diced and I'm on the bandwagon there now!

Can't wait for next year's O. It will be interesting to see how Cedric's muscles mature over the next year.

[liamcarter]

Can't wait for next year's O. It will be interesting to see how Cedric's muscles mature over the next year.

cedric can hang with the top 4 anyday..just needs that crisp conditioning

[germanyt]

cause you're looking at a picture where he was (as i mentioned a couple posts back) flat as hell.

seriously

It's not just this pic. I've never cared much for Kai's arm insertions.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

Because a rear lat spread is a back pose, not a leg pose. More detail in the back would win it imo. Kai definitely has more width though, so thats another big factor with the RLS

Every pose is judged top to bottom. Regardless of it's name. Side chest for example, there are so many other muscles than pecs that make this pose great.



I can see things each has over the other in every pose, and they both have completely different structured physiques. So in that respect I can see why there could/is a debate as to who should have won.

[FAN0FdaSport]

It's not just this pic. I've never cared much for Kai's arm insertions.

agreed, kai just doesnt have the genetics for a killer arm shot, but i know someone...

[Larfleeze]

The RLS in my opinion is very close. The RDB is a landslide win for Kai and the FDB is a landslide win for Phil. RLS is a toss up. MM is Phil's. FLS is Kai's. Side Tricep is Phil. Side Chest is Kai. It is really SO close!

wut

[BartPimpson]

I think Phil's FLS looks just as bad next to Kai's as Kai's RLS does to Phil's.

[Jeddore]

wut

also

[Jaixs]

Can't wait for next year's O. It will be interesting to see how Cedric's muscles mature over the next year.

Please elaborate.. Muscles can do 1 out of 2 things.
1. Get bigger.
2. Get smaller.

[Larfleeze]

Yup..two shots of Kai beating Phil despite being like a foot further away from the camera..

[Jeddore]

Yup..two shots of Kai beating Phil despite being like a foot further away from the camera..

yes i must agree kai is beating phil in hair length but when it comes to bodybuilding he is not, sorry bro

[DPNZ]

[Larfleeze]

yes i must agree kai is beating phil in hair length but when it comes to bodybuilding he is not, sorry bro

Better flow, better taper, better bicep peak, bigger legs..in what way is he not beating him in that shot?

[Big Slim DaDDy]

I bet even Phil would laugh at that 2x Sandow gif.

[Zelgraz]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?

why with hair do i not hate him so?

[Skreddy]

I dont see how Kai's back double bi fails to trump heath's

[DPNZ]

Better flow, better taper, better bicep peak, bigger legs..in what way is he not beating him in that shot?

I personally think Kai's got ugly arms in the FDB and Side Tricep. Not a fan. He has very short insertions for his biceps and I don't really like the way they look.

However, everything else looks sick.

[BartPimpson]

I personally think Kai's got ugly arms in the FDB and Side Tricep. Not a fan. He has very short insertions for his biceps and I don't really like the way they look.

However, everything else looks sick.

His left tricep kind of bothers me. It's like there's part of the muscle missing. Otherwise his symmetry is about as good as it gets.

[featureless]

If Kai hadn't of flattened out at the night show he MOST DEFINATELY SHOULD have won.

fixed

[featureless]

I think your confusing thickness with detail.

Kai has more thickness in the RLS, Phil has more detail.

I agree. Kai has a thicker back than phil

[luckynumber13as]

cedric can hang with the top 4 anyday..just needs that crisp conditioning

Yeah, he just has to hit it spot on.

[Jeddore]

Better flow, better taper, better bicep peak, bigger legs..in what way is he not beating him in that shot?

kai's forearms look invisible there, his triceps lack symmetry, phils chest even looks more filled out, kai's stomach has that balloon look, the detail in phils arms in the fdb trumps kais and if kai's legs are bigger there (which they don't even seem to be in that shot) its not by much.

cool brah?

[mbamboocha112]

kai's forearms look invisible there, his triceps lack symmetry,

cool brah?

ummm...Phil's arms don't have symmetry..his left arm is noticeably bigger than his right one.Look for non shopped pics and you ll see.COOL BRAH?