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    Someone should find something about cardio not being an efficient way to lose weight. I can't find it now, but a while back I was reading a study that showed people who jogged more, gained more weight. They all ate a ton more than people who didn't run. I know it's not a direct correlation, but it was a good read.
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    Originally Posted by ezzzo View Post
    Someone should find something about cardio not being an efficient way to lose weight. I can't find it now, but a while back I was reading a study that showed people who jogged more, gained more weight. They all ate a ton more than people who didn't run. I know it's not a direct correlation, but it was a good read.
    cardio doesn't affect fat, it's all dependant on how many calories you eat and how many you use. some people find cardio helps them burn calories, but they could acheive the same result by eating less.
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    Originally Posted by ezzzo View Post
    Someone should find something about cardio not being an efficient way to lose weight. I can't find it now, but a while back I was reading a study that showed people who jogged more, gained more weight. They all ate a ton more than people who didn't run. I know it's not a direct correlation, but it was a good read.
    That isn't really a scientific premise.

    Weight loss is caloric intake vs caloric expenditure, it's just people don't seem to understand cardiovascular exercise is a VERY inefficient way to manipulate caloric levels and people overestimate their expenditure = excessive eating = caloric surplus = weight gain.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    That isn't really a scientific premise.

    Weight loss is caloric intake vs caloric expenditure, it's just people don't seem to understand cardiovascular exercise is a VERY inefficient way to manipulate caloric levels and people overestimate their expenditure = excessive eating = caloric surplus = weight gain.
    Exactly. I use cardio just to elevate VO2 max, and lower my resting heart rate/blood pressure. this has to be one of the biggest myths in the fitness industry
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    Originally Posted by ezzzo View Post
    Someone should find something about cardio not being an efficient way to lose weight. I can't find it now, but a while back I was reading a study that showed people who jogged more, gained more weight. They all ate a ton more than people who didn't run. I know it's not a direct correlation, but it was a good read.
    Lol m8 that's a load of crap. Cardio doesn't make you gain weight...
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    Originally Posted by BitterBlossom View Post
    Lol m8 that's a load of crap. Cardio doesn't make you gain weight...
    He was referring to the appetite stimulation. It's actually an interesting premise, albeit one that's impossible to prove.
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    Heres a not-so-common misconception, but its actually true:

    Eating 2000 Calories under your maintenance will actually make you gain body tissue (gain weight).


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/174829096
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    Originally Posted by .Excalibur View Post
    Heres a not-so-common misconception, but its actually true:

    Eating 2000 Calories under your maintenance will actually make you gain body tissue (gain weight).


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/174829096
    Error occurred: The following PMID is not available: 174829096

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    Originally Posted by AlphaSaiyan View Post
    Error occurred: The following PMID is not available: 174829096

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    Don't argue with science.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    That isn't really a scientific premise.

    Weight loss is caloric intake vs caloric expenditure, it's just people don't seem to understand cardiovascular exercise is a VERY inefficient way to manipulate caloric levels and people overestimate their expenditure = excessive eating = caloric surplus = weight gain.
    I know it's not a scientific premise. It does deal with the way most people view cardio though, like you said.

    Originally Posted by .Excalibur View Post
    Heres a not-so-common misconception, but its actually true:

    Eating 2000 Calories under your maintenance will actually make you gain body tissue (gain weight).


    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/174829096
    Been wondering about this for a while. thanks for the link
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    Does time of consumption for creatine matter? Or is it the same as the "After work-out shake myth"?
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    Originally Posted by WannaBeATank View Post
    Does time of consumption for creatine matter? Or is it the same as the "After work-out shake myth"?
    It's the same, I'm typing this as I'm practically on my way out the door for the gym, so I CBF linking sources... If no one else does before I come back, I will later.
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    Originally Posted by WannaBeATank View Post
    Does time of consumption for creatine matter? Or is it the same as the "After work-out shake myth"?
    As Don said, it's the same.

    I don't have an article on this one though I'm afraid.

    People go on and on about creatine uptake etc. about spiking insulin to promote creatine uptake, taking it at certain times while forgetting that the aim of creatine supplementation is to reach saturation. Once you're at that point, some minute difference in uptake (if there is any) will have absolutely no effect.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    As Don said, it's the same.

    I don't have an article on this one though I'm afraid.

    People go on and on about creatine uptake etc. about spiking insulin to promote creatine uptake, taking it at certain times while forgetting that the aim of creatine supplementation is to reach saturation. Once you're at that point, some minute difference in uptake (if there is any) will have absolutely no effect.
    Random, so it doesn't take long to go into effect? Also, i'll be banging the ballz out of you guys with questions. As stated above, my gym is broscience headquarters.
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    Originally Posted by WannaBeATank View Post
    Random, so it doesn't take long to go into effect? Also, i'll be banging the ballz out of you guys with questions. As stated above, my gym is broscience headquarters.
    Snorkelman had a lovely chart which I should've saved comparing the saturation rates of loading at 20g/day and supplementing at 5g/day.

    Off the top of my head I believe it was 2 weeks and a month respectively, with no difference after that.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    As Don said, it's the same.

    I don't have an article on this one though I'm afraid.

    People go on and on about creatine uptake etc. about spiking insulin to promote creatine uptake, taking it at certain times while forgetting that the aim of creatine supplementation is to reach saturation. Once you're at that point, some minute difference in uptake (if there is any) will have absolutely no effect.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    Once you're at that point, some minute difference in uptake (if there is any) will have absolutely no effect.
    That or have very, very minimal effects.
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    will diet have any affect on blood cholesterol levels?
    check out my log:

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    Originally Posted by monkeyfrogO.O View Post
    will diet have any affect on blood cholesterol levels?
    Yes.
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    Good thread is good.
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    I eat like every 4 hours maybe, don't count macros.

    **** works great.
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    Originally Posted by Ka0s View Post
    Are you sure about that?
    I swear it said 15k for a minute...

    Maybe I'm losing my mind. I'll let people get back on topic.
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    Originally Posted by perryvillelax93 View Post
    I swear it said 15k for a minute...

    Maybe I'm losing my mind. I'll let people get back on topic.
    lol he prolly deleted his old posts from some other thread to stay at 14,999
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