This why Heath is better than Levrone...

[BaGeL23]

'93 Yates is pretty silly...Jay would have him on quads/hammys though, probably chest too.

[NeoSeminole]

I disagree man. Dorian's arms were always overpowered by his delts. His calves were nearly wider than his quads which were never very aesthetic. Jay's proportions are close to spot on. It's just his conditioning and symmetry issues that hindered him.

his delts and arms looked pretty balanced to me. Could you throw up pics? Jay's torso is a little long and his waist is even wider than Dorian's

[Duckenheimer]

'93 Yates is pretty silly...Jay would have him on quads/hammys though, probably chest too.

And bis and delts. But Yates separation is sharper and the back and calves, and tris, beat Jay.

[DavisForman]

Levrone is probably one the the top 5 best bodybuilders of all-time statistically.

1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Arnold Schwarzenegger
3. Lee Haney
4. Dorian Yates
5. Jay Cutler

Where is Levrone?

If you think Levrone only looked good in one pose you need to seriously consider getting your eyes checked.

Well, good thing "Only one good pose has been posted in this thread" and "Kevin only has one good pose" don't mean the same thing, eh?



And LOL at anyone saying Dorian would beat 09 Jay. What Jay Cutler brought to the stage last year at the Olympia was the greatest overall physique, second only to Ronnie Coleman.

[NeoSeminole]

And LOL at anyone saying Dorian would beat 09 Jay. What Jay Cutler brought to the stage last year at the Olympia was the greatest overall physique, second only to Ronnie Coleman.

hard to tell if you're trolling when you make obviously wrong statements like that

[flangmasterj]

his delts and arms looked pretty balanced to me. Could you throw up pics? Jay's torso is a little long and his waist is even wider than Dorian's

This is what I mean when I say his delts overpower his arms.

[NeoSeminole]

This is what I mean when I say his delts overpower his arms.

in the Dorian pic, his arms are the same diameter as his delts. How do his delts overpower his arms???

[flangmasterj]

in the Dorian pic, his arms are the same diameter as his delts. How do his delts overpower his arms???

It's not the height but the width. See how Ronnie's are horizontally and vertically similar to his delts?

Same with all the great rear double bi's. Check out Arnie's, Flex's, Phil's even Jay's (not so great but you get the idea).

[NeoSeminole]

It's not the height but the width. See how Ronnie's are horizontally and vertically similar to his delts?

that's what I just said, lol. The distance from top to bottom is the same for his arms and delts. As for the length of his bones, it's just an optical illusion b/c he's bending his arms more than Ronnie

[flangmasterj]

that's what I just said, lol. The distance from top to bottom is the same for his arms and delts

No not just top to bottom but left to right.

For example these delts and arms are well balanced.



For example:

[NeoSeminole]

honestly, the only difference I see from left to right is Dorian bending his arms more

[flangmasterj]

He had to bend his arms more or else he would of had large gaps between his forearms and biceps. You don't think his delts slightly overshadow his arms?

This is probably the best example of balance between the delts and arms. Robby Robinson.

[DavyGrolton]

He had to bend his arms more or else he would of had large gaps between his forearms and biceps. You don't think his delts slightly overshadow his arms?

This is probably the best example of balance between the delts and arms. Robby Robinson.

honestly I think his delts look to be a weak point

I agree with Neo; Dorian's arms were far from a strong point but they weren't badly overshadowed by his delts

shows you how subjective this can be

[flangmasterj]

honestly I think his delts look to be a weak point

I agree with Neo; Dorian's arms were far from a strong point but they weren't badly overshadowed by his delts

shows you how subjective this can be

Exactly it is subjective. Well done Grolts.

His arms aren't badly overshadowed by his delts but they are slightly.

[FullROM]

He had to bend his arms more or else he would of had large gaps between his forearms and biceps. You don't think his delts slightly overshadow his arms?

This is probably the best example of balance between the delts and arms. Robby Robinson.

Arms over power delts here. There is no right or wrong, everyone is different. Nothing wrong with yates Arm V Delt size. Kindly note, yates has won the Olympia.

[flangmasterj]

Arms over power delts here. There is no right or wrong, everyone is different. Nothing wrong with yates Arm V Delt size. Kindly note, yates has won the Olympia.

So has Robby.

[OtisBDriftwood]

I really respect Dorian's work ethic but his physique is one of my most disliked of all Olympia winners.

Lol and you think Cutler's isn't?? Probably even more disliked than Dorian's.
Jay's proportions are good indeed if you disregard that 10 foot wide waist.

[flangmasterj]

Lol and you think Cutler's isn't?? Probably even more disliked than Dorian's.
Jay's proportions are good indeed if you disregard that 10 foot wide waist.

"My most disliked".

[trulyhuge1]

1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Arnold Schwarzenegger
3. Lee Haney
4. Dorian Yates
5. Jay Cutler

Where is Levrone?



Well, good thing "Only one good pose has been posted in this thread" and "Kevin only has one good pose" don't mean the same thing, eh?



And LOL at anyone saying Dorian would beat 09 Jay. What Jay Cutler brought to the stage last year at the Olympia was the greatest overall physique, second only to Ronnie Coleman.

I give up bud, you win.

[klow2008]

In conclusion. The majority of us agree that yes heaths conditioning is crisper specially from behind however kevin displayed that healthy classic small waisted physique with a great v taper (with no gut) u dont see today.

[asbrus]

In conclusion. The majority of us agree that yes heaths conditioning is crisper specially from behind however kevin displayed that healthy classic small waisted physique with a great v taper (with no gut) u dont see today.

Kevin in 1992 displayed the same level of conditioning that heath has with more mass.

[spamy]

I see it the other way a point. The nineties have been glorfied so much that people don't appreciate what we have now. Phil is competed at the Arnold this year at 240 and is the same height as Kevin and has better muscle bellies overall at looking bigger than he is. He is also more complete overall. He was also in better condition than 99% of Levrones showing (it was also heaths best to be fair) I think Kev would be bigger in certain bodyparts, but overall they would be very close size wise. Speaking of the 90's Dorian beat everyone in the nineties and Jay when he dials in condition is superior to Dorian in almost every way.

The 90's really had the most genetically gifted bodies in the history. Here is the top 6 from 1999, put them and the other top pros from that decade in today's contests and the placings would change pretty much.

[OtisBDriftwood]

Why do people say that? Put Jay at his best next to Dorian and I'm pretty confident that it would go to Jay. So much more proportionate and is carrying more mass.

Dorian in 1996 was 265lbs on stage with much better conditioning that Jay will ever display and at the same height.
Jay was 255lbs last Mr.O by his own words (sure he seemed much bigger)

Lower half included? Dorians legs were good, but not Jay level good. Neither of them have great back detail, both are wide. From the back I'd give a edge to Dorian, but not killing him. Hammies on Dorian would hamper him some vs Jay. Front would be close, except for legs. Overall conditioning would be Dorian. So perhaps the best of Dorian might beat Jay, but it would still be a close battle so to say we have went that far backwards is a fallacy, IMO.

LOL.. I present you.



The ownage would be pretty bad.
Ronnie and Dorian were in a much different league than all the other Mr.Olympia winners so far.

[Hyatt]

Dorian in 1996 was 265lbs on stage with much better conditioning that Jay will ever display and at the same height.
Jay was 255lbs last Mr.O by his own words (sure he seemed much bigger)



LOL.. I present you.



The ownage would be pretty bad.
Ronnie and Dorian were in a much different league than all the other Mr.Olympia winners so far.

Dorian looks great there and his back is just amazing.
The christmas tree/lower back Dorian has is just insane...

[boyoboyo]

Well, good thing "Only one good pose has been posted in this thread" and "Kevin only has one good pose" don't mean the same thing, eh?

ERR look at the previous page, various poses including abs & thigh, side tri, side chest and front lat spread have been shown with kevin looking incredible.

And LOL at anyone saying Dorian would beat 09 Jay. What Jay Cutler brought to the stage last year at the Olympia was the greatest overall physique, second only to Ronnie Coleman.

fairenough thinking 09 jay would beat dorian.
but a lot of other people would disagree including myself. so no its not a landslide like you make it out to be. kinda like how heaths arms sh!t all over levrones eh? LMAO

hard to tell if you're trolling when you make obviously wrong statements like that

THIS THIS THIS ^^

So has Robby.

No he hasnt lol, you being serious brah?

[Loctus]

The 90's really had the most genetically gifted bodies in the history. Here is the top 6 from 1999, put them and the other top pros from that decade in today's contests and the placings would change pretty much.

Today>90's

[spamy]

Today>90's

So, you see Branch beating Ronnie, Cormier and the others from top 6 of the 90's even if they're out of shape nad taking 2nd place? Interesting.

[Duckenheimer]

So, you see Branch beating Ronnie, Cormier and the others from top 6 of the 90's even if they're out of shape nad taking 2nd place? Interesting.

I doubt that's what he sees.

[DylanDetrick]

Kevin in 1992 displayed the same level of conditioning that heath has with more mass.

more mass?

[Loctus]

So, you see Branch beating Ronnie

I'm not sure I understand what you just wrote there. I think it's a oxymoron? What do you mean "beating Ronnie"? I dun get it.