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Thread: Bodybuilding still as popular?
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07-06-2011, 05:09 PM #31
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07-06-2011, 05:38 PM #32
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07-06-2011, 05:58 PM #33
I'm not sure it ever was that popular, either. I remember back in the 70's and there were just a few of us, relatively speaking, in the gym, day after day.
People have mentioned hard work and discipline in this thread already. That does seem to separate bodybuilders from the rest of the herd.
How many of you have met people who are envious of what you've accomplished but seem to always have an excuse for not doing it? Not enough time, don't want to eat like that, women don't like men with muscles, etc., etc., ...
We're a minority and as ironwill2008 put it: "I like it that way just fine."
Zeke
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07-06-2011, 06:07 PM #34
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07-06-2011, 06:18 PM #35
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07-06-2011, 06:40 PM #36
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07-06-2011, 06:44 PM #37
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07-06-2011, 06:54 PM #38
Ok lets just cut the bs and the wankful thinking here and get to the heart of the matter!
How are we going to popularize bodybuilding in the mainstream 100% and in a positive manner?
Who would be the best spokes person to present Bodybuilding in a postive lite without all the jive-shucking,snakeoil huksterism that currently has bodybuilding in a death grip.
That means we need to find someone who has the following:
1) Integrity
2) Intelligence
3)Charisma
4) Is approachable and freindly
5) has a physique people of all ages and both genders can admire,and men can easily achieve though hard training,dedication and proper diet
6) dresses,talks walks and acts like a mature adult who has class and not some sideshow phoney baloney thug off the street that would probbably run shrieking down the steet if my 97 year old grandmother sneezed as she passed by him on the sidewalk,because the sound of a sneeze scares him.
Any ideas? know anyone that fits all six??
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07-06-2011, 06:59 PM #39No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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07-06-2011, 07:12 PM #40
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07-06-2011, 07:20 PM #41
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07-06-2011, 07:22 PM #42
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07-06-2011, 07:25 PM #43No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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07-06-2011, 07:28 PM #44
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This is a very interesting topic for me, as classic martial arts have kind of fallen victim to the same phenomena. There are two reasons for the decline in bodybuilding:
1) The pick-up-artist boom and the current perception is that most women prefer the classic Greek physique which is mildly muscular and cut.
2) Used to be that men perceived big built guys as tough and invincible. Then these videos hit the web:
Karate, kung fu and all the other classic martial arts have also been a victim of the Gracie marketing machine. What has been lost (for numerous reasons) is the true arts in their complete form, which really were not designed for cage fighting.
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07-06-2011, 07:32 PM #45
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07-06-2011, 07:39 PM #46
When we find the perfect drugs that make bodybuilding a LOT easier than most of us know it to be now. Otherwise people discover it's a slow process characterized by hard work and get disillusioned with it quickly. You know, like the January resolution-ers who stop coming to the gym by February.
You would think that will all the press that bulkier physiques have gotten lately in movies that the public would be more into bodybuilding. Movies like Thor ("Chris Hemsworth gets too muscular for his costume!"), Taylor Lautner bulking up for the Twilight films, and Chris Evans beefing up for Captain America.
With these popular films showcasing basically bodybuilding-built bods one would expect to see folks flocking to the gyms.
But they aren't.
I don't want to discourage your idea- if you have a plan and the desire to make bodybuilding mainstream, more power to you. But I think until they find that rumored myostantin blocker, or steriods become legal, or there is some other "make-building-muscle-easier-and-faster" breakthrough it's not going to work.
It's easier to pick up a TV remote than a dumbbell.
Zeke
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07-06-2011, 07:45 PM #47
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07-06-2011, 07:48 PM #48
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07-06-2011, 08:09 PM #49
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07-06-2011, 08:43 PM #50
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07-07-2011, 04:09 AM #51
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07-07-2011, 05:45 AM #52
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All depends where you train and who you train under. There are still great schools out there with strong roots in tradition teaching valid effective arts, places where it takes years (5+) of hard training to reach black. What does one accomplish with 5+ years of hard bodybuilding? I bet real results.
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07-07-2011, 07:00 AM #53
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07-07-2011, 08:12 AM #54
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07-07-2011, 08:13 AM #55"It doesn't matter what exercise you do, but man was made to move, to eat sparingly, to work hard and to screw as much as he can manage. Do all that, and you will look as good as your genes will let you, be content as the arseholes around you will allow, and maybe get a few screws. The particular virtues of weight training are in the discipline it brings to both mind and body, and, if you do it right, it will make you look good naked and do well what you got your clothes off to do." Georgeoz
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07-07-2011, 09:29 AM #56
Weider Inc tried to get bodybuilding on the Olympic stage and popularise it but the drugs issue will always hamper it. How many times have you guys been accused of taking gear when in reality many years of consistent training and diet is in fact the reason? I hear it all the time and am sick of trying to defend the innocent against the mentally impared who are too lazy to discipline themselves, and would rather accuse others of taking stuff than admit they earned it. Lets face it, the Olympia boys today are freaks, the days of Frank Zane, Bob Paris etc are long gone, having competed and attended National competions, these guys would qualify for the top 6 now! Bodybuilding as a sport has no credibility, and unfortunately this slides down to us guys who work at it.
Ultimately we do it for ourselves, and I'm with Ironwill too....let's keep it that way!
Where I live there are 4 types;
1. The competitor (as rare as rocking horse poo nowadays)
2. The juiced up 'I want to look massive with my water retention in my T-shirt'
3. The dedicated and consistent gym goer/bodybuilder as I believe we all are on this site
4. The 'put it all down to gear' procrastinator, who wouldn't know a Gym from a Jim!
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07-07-2011, 10:13 AM #57
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07-07-2011, 10:18 AM #58
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No,
For the general public its to much work in the gym, to much discipline at the buffet table. They'd rather keep eating crap at McDonalds and their head in a online game, laptop, or iphone.
I workout hard and eat well. I have ''sacrificed' internet, youtube, online games, tv, movies etc... because its worth it to ME. My friends have chosen fat not fit.
I see many more fit women then men in general around here. So many fit ladies with fat boyfriends/husbands. At the gym the women outnumber the men big time. Not in the weight room but in the classes and in the cardio area. But even last night the weightroom was about 50/50.
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07-07-2011, 11:04 AM #59
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07-07-2011, 11:06 AM #60
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