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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I will make a website about my bodybuilding discoveries.
    Well you waste time on everything else, why stop now!
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    Originally Posted by Roidmonster55 View Post
    Well you waste time on everything else, why stop now!
    I get stronger every workout instead of weaker. If 1 month rest is too long, then I should get weaker every workout, but instead I get stronger. The reason I need longer rest is because I don't do sissy girl reps like you, I train like a real man.
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    This thread went from superfunny to supergay. Now it's superannoying. Can someone please ban this super*******, lock the thread and sticky it so we can point and laugh at it? Rename it "Don't be this retard". OP you are a retard, a poster child for birth control. GTFO now.
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    Originally Posted by HulkingBrute View Post
    This thread went from superfunny to supergay. Now it's superannoying. Can someone please ban this super*******, lock the thread and sticky it so we can point and laugh at it? Rename it "Don't be this retard". OP you are a retard, a poster child for birth control. GTFO now.
    Yes, it is not funny anymore when you realized you were wrong. I have shown proof from the beginning, but it has taken hundreds of posts until you understood it. But Roidmonster still doesn't get it, all that fast lifting damages the brain, he said it himself, his eyes pop when he lifts fast. When I do superslow, it is better for the brain.
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    Superslow is for geriatrics and *******s. And for brain trauma victims who need to be told not to hurt themselves. Go train with your kind, you don't belong here. Go make your superstupid website and take your retard training with you.
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I get stronger every workout instead of weaker. If 1 month rest is too long, then I should get weaker every workout, but instead I get stronger. The reason I need longer rest is because I don't do sissy girl reps like you, I train like a real man.
    11 pages and not one person agrees with you. But you are too brain damaged to figure that out. You have proof of absolutely NOTHING, except that you are soft, weak and mentally retarded.

    Will someone please ban this freakin idiot?
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    Can't do high reps after starting superslow

    Not surprised.

    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    Did I lose strength or is it normal?
    You did lose strength.

    And it is normal to lose strength on super slow.

    You get strong by working at high intensity(percent of max lift) for lower reps. Longer rests between heavy sets so you get your reps in decent form. It is not about pump and fatigue at all. Say 3 x 3 x 90% x 3-5 min rest.

    You get strength endurance, and a lot of extra size, by working at somewhat lower intensity for higher reps. Shorter rests between sets because it is about pump and fatigue and conditioning for reps and volume. Say 5 x 10 x 60% x 1 min rest.

    You get power by lifting fast, somewhat lower intensity. Say 8-10 x 1-3 x 60% x 1 min rest.

    You get weaker and less powerful by working at really low intensity, and moving the weight slowly like a geriatric patient on rehab.

    To rehab an injury, super slow might be useful to let you pump blood into the affected part to promote healing.
    Beginners:

    FIERCE 5:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159678631

    Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)

    Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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    Jgreystoke, science, logic and basic human biology are nothing to OP. he spits in the face of them all. He will just take your intelligent post, and flip it around into some kind of justification to keep doing it. He's a f****** retard. We should just continue flaming him for the retard that he is. He isn't interested in debate or logic explanation. He's just a f****** retard.

    OP GTFO, retard.
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    Originally Posted by jgreystoke View Post
    Not surprised.



    You did lose strength.

    And it is normal to lose strength on super slow.

    You get strong by working at high intensity(percent of max lift) for lower reps. Longer rests between heavy sets so you get your reps in decent form. It is not about pump and fatigue at all. Say 3 x 3 x 90% x 3-5 min rest.

    You get strength endurance, and a lot of extra size, by working at somewhat lower intensity for higher reps. Shorter rests between sets because it is about pump and fatigue and conditioning for reps and volume. Say 5 x 10 x 60% x 1 min rest.

    You get power by lifting fast, somewhat lower intensity. Say 8-10 x 1-3 x 60% x 1 min rest.

    You get weaker and less powerful by working at really low intensity, and moving the weight slowly like a geriatric patient on rehab.

    To rehab an injury, super slow might be useful to let you pump blood into the affected part to promote healing.
    But I'm not using low intensity, the weight is so heavy it forces me to move slow, even when I try to move fast. With my superslow I use about 1-3 reps until I reach failure.
    It's a bad idea to do multiple sets, I have tried it and it doesn't work. When training with proper intensity, doing more than one set is impossible. Mike Mentzer said that going from 1 to 2 sets is the worst mistake you can do.
    I do only 1 set per muscle, and rest 1 month.
    I did not lose strength, because after I made the switch from fast to slow reps, I started increasing my strength every workout. There is no indication of strength loss in my logs! There is only endurance loss. When I trained fast for high reps, it was only endurance, I see this now.
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    OP GTFO, you are a waste of bandwidth.
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    My body type was made for training with low reps. I remember when I started training 13 years ago, I could never get to 6 chin-ups. My body could only handle 5 chin-ups! I was stuck at 5 reps for half a decade! Then I bought a bike and started riding outside, I trained endurance, then like magic I went up to 20 chin-ups! But I hadn't got stronger at all. I had just adapted my body to handle higher reps. Then I stopped riding the bike for a few years, and my reps went down to 5-6 again. I started walking and running outside, I went up to 14 chin-ups. See the pattern?
    During this time my strength and muscle size was the same, but I could do different amount of reps.

    It makes sense that if I stop doing endurance training, the reps become lower. I have noticed this recently, I started running for 12 minutes before I did chin-ups, I was able to make a record after a couple workouts!

    I will aim for low reps and increase weight, it suits my body type better. I will forget about the fast high reps. The reason the reps can be fast is because the weight is too low, if the weight is higher, it forces you to do superslow. I will do low reps 1-3 and superslow. These last couple months have been crazy gains!
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    Originally Posted by HulkingBrute View Post
    OP GTFO, you are a waste of bandwidth.
    I don't see any value in your posts. You are wasting bandwidth in my thread.
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I don't see any value in your posts. You are wasting bandwidth in my thread.
    You haven't made one valuable post out of 261.

    And talk about patterns, the only pattern I see is you making one retarded post out of another. Hey BRB guys, I need to increase my bench press so I'm gonna go do some calf raises.
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    I took a picture of my calf. I used to have very thin calves, after starting superslow (5/5 sec) it has grown 1 cm and I have lost fat too. I obviously train hard enough, because calves are the most difficult muscle to grow!
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I took a picture of my calf. I used to have very thin calves, after starting superslow (5/5 sec) it has grown 1 cm and I have lost fat too. I obviously train hard enough, because calves are the most difficult muscle to grow!
    ONCE AGAIN I AM TELLING YOU THIS.
    if you like to do your ****, do your ****. no one gives a **** about it. just dont act like you are the one and everyone else is wrong.
    of course you will get stronger. I get stronger by just running up and down stairs. doing something is better than doing nothing. not that its always the best way to do it but better than nothing.
    if you like your superslow, fine. I like my regular lifting too.
    now shut the **** up and let this thread die!
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    Originally Posted by speedjason View Post
    ONCE AGAIN I AM TELLING YOU THIS.
    if you like to do your ****, do your ****. no one gives a **** about it. just dont act like you are the one and everyone else is wrong.
    of course you will get stronger. I get stronger by just running up and down stairs. doing something is better than doing nothing. not that its always the best way to do it but better than nothing.
    if you like your superslow, fine. I like my regular lifting too.
    now shut the **** up and let this thread die!
    Ok, so you finally admit that superslow works for me?
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    Ok, so you finally admit that superslow works for me?
    If we pretend that it does, will you shut the f*** up and never post again?
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I took a picture of my calf. I used to have very thin calves, after starting superslow (5/5 sec) it has grown 1 cm and I have lost fat too. I obviously train hard enough, because calves are the most difficult muscle to grow!
    See comparison before superslow:

    See the thin calf (march 2009), many cm smaller. This is proof that my superslow training works.
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    Ok, so you finally admit that superslow works for me?
    NO. What he is saying is that he believes that you TRULY believe that it works for you. That's admission of nothing.
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    I took picture of my thighs, see how huge difference. I have only trained once per month!
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    I train my upper body harder than my lower body, because I like training my upper body the most. I need to learn to rest longer than 1 month for my upper body, otherwise it doesn't grow!
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I took picture of my thighs, see how huge difference. I have only trained once per month!
    for a three year progression, I would say its pretty poor given the time its taken. couldve been more effective with normal weight lifting. your achievement is pretty much an average guy who can achieve in 6 months using just normal weight lifting.
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    Originally Posted by speedjason View Post
    for a three year progression, I would say its pretty poor given the time its taken. couldve been more effective with normal weight lifting. your achievement is pretty much an average guy who can achieve in 6 months using just normal weight lifting.
    I didn't start with superslow until a couple months ago. I don't have any other pictures of my legs than this old picture.

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    Originally Posted by speedjason View Post
    for a three year progression, I would say its pretty poor given the time its taken. couldve been more effective with normal weight lifting. your achievement is pretty much an average guy who can achieve in 6 months using just normal weight lifting.
    I have trained my upper body with normal weight lifting twice per week, it gave no difference at all. But with my legs I have trained them once per month and I see huge progress.
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    I didn't start with superslow until a couple months ago. I don't have any other pictures of my legs than this old picture.

    well you weight much more now too and you expecting it to be a good comparison?

    fyi, your so called "coconut-audio" is just as trolling as you.
    now leave as alone and do whatever the **** you wanna do. I dont want to see this thread ever again.
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    Originally Posted by speedjason View Post
    well you weight much more now too and you expecting it to be a good comparison?

    fyi, your so called "coconut-audio" is just as trolling as you.
    now leave as alone and do whatever the **** you wanna do. I dont want to see this thread ever again.
    Then don't click on this thread. I have not seen dumber people than the ones in this thread, you are obviously trolling in my thread where I post valuable information.
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    I have not seen dumber people than the ones in this thread
    Oh the irony. I haven't seen a thread like this since Kenevskwhatever was here.

    OP the only thing left for you to do is write a book and get rich.
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    Originally Posted by Patrick82 View Post
    Then don't click on this thread. I have not seen dumber people than the ones in this thread, you are obviously trolling in my thread where I post valuable information.
    you mad?
    I guess the meaning of trolling does not translate very well into Swedish.
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    You troll and say my training doesn't work when it clearly does. I have said from the beginning that I get stronger from superslow, but you keep saying I don't. You keep saying that I need to go back to training like I did for the previous 12 years where I made no progress. This is very strange advice. For some reason you have decided from the beginning that superslow doesn't work, and you fail to listen to the evidence that proves otherwise.
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