Par Deus - Artificial Sweeteners - Debunking The Myths!

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The world of sweeteners has been around as far back as 1879. But then around 1970 the problems started rolling in. Learn what these sweeteners are and the myths behind them! Check it out!

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[str8flexed]

outstanding, i've been saying this for years! I'm glad someone put it in a very well-written article. I'm also glad you took the time to address mercola's scam.

Enjoyable to read and very informative. Just yesterday I was in a book store and took a look through the "Natural Cures" book by Kevin Trudeau. In that book he states the dangers of Nutrasweet, based on urban legends mostly. He said in the book it was a fact that one would lose more weight by drinking regular soda than diet soda because diet sodas make you fat! I set the book down and laughed on my way out of the bookstore.

I'm looking forward to a followup story on sucralose. I'm sure you'll have one in the works as more info becomes available.

[guym]

Going to print this out, so when people say my head will explode with all those chemicals I eat, I can shut them up! (If I can get them to put their cigs + donuts down LOL)

[kressie]

Great article...
I have heard the problem is not the sweeteners as they are manufactured... but what happens to them once cooked, baked, left out in the sun, etc... and they de-nature and turn into 'the cancer causing agents' --> is there anything out there on this ?

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by kressie

Great article...
I have heard the problem is not the sweeteners as they are manufactured... but what happens to them once cooked, baked, left out in the sun, etc... and they de-nature and turn into 'the cancer causing agents' --> is there anything out there on this ?

that is complete nonesense

[Nekomon]

i wont feel safe untill its a known fact that its safe

why in hell use artificial sweetener anyway? the shakes taste like **** whatevver you do with them

also whats the use of artificial sweetener ifits more dangerous the sugar?

i rather get fat then get a brain tuomor or internal cancers and so on.

[str8flexed]

what more facts do you need? jeeeeezus

[kingfish3]

i know people in these posts are stubborn, but all the people ive seen switching to stevia are in better health now

[str8flexed]

my god

[kingfish3]

im bigger, stronger, have more muscle and no more about training and nutrition then you do. Let me guess. I will get banned for saying that. You know more because you think you have a physique and are a mod here?

[str8flexed]

i have a BS in biochemistry, i've been studying training & nutrition for years.

I'm doing my PhD in nutritional biochemistry with a focus in amino acid metabolism.

so I think I know a thing or two about the subject matter. and don't pull that BS "i'll get banned for saying such and such" I don't ban people for disagreeing with me, regardless of what you think.

[lefty the clown]

Originally Posted by str8flexed

i have a BS in biochemistry, i've been studying training & nutrition for years.

I'm doing my PhD in nutritional biochemistry with a focus in amino acid metabolism.

so I think I know a thing or two about the subject matter. and don't pull that BS "i'll get banned for saying such and such" I don't ban people for disagreeing with me, regardless of what you think.

i feel like i am going to have a degree from reading all the info. on this forum. people like trying to piss you off. i dont understand it. if people are talking about you then you know you are doing something right. they are promoting and doing your marketing for you. even if you were a sac of douche i would not spend hours of my time to tell you.

Sweeteners are not natural and do not belong in the body.

Take off your blinders.

Go buy the book Paleo Diet. You will learn something and live a longer life.

[kingfish3]

of course you feel fine for now. I bet he thinks kevin trudeau is a con man and that we shouldnt do cleanses either.

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sweeteners are not natural and do not belong in the body.

Take off your blinders.

Go buy the book Paleo Diet. You will learn something and live a longer life.

and you are brainwashed by marketing BS

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by kingfish3

of course you feel fine for now. I bet he thinks kevin trudeau is a con man and that we shouldnt do cleanses either.

pretty much... cleanses are BS also

and you are brainwashed by marketing BS

Actually there is no marketing at my local red neck farmer's market. You are the one fooled by advertising.

Of course they want to post this article on a SUPPLEMENT site. 99% of the supplements on this site have artificial sweeteners.

Dissing artificial sweeteners is bad business for the supplement industry. The supplement industry makes its money off uneducated teenagers who couldn't pass an 11th grade chemistry class.

So spare me your comments. It's not about marketing. It is about SCIENCE, which you clearly do not understand.

Go back to pill popping so you feel good when you put on your tight shirt and flex in the mirror.

[Lil Freek]

do you have any proof of your statement?

you against GMO's, too?

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Actually there is no marketing at my local red neck farmer's market. You are the one fooled by advertising.

Of course they want to post this article on a SUPPLEMENT site. 99% of the supplements on this site have artificial sweeteners.

Dissing artificial sweeteners is bad business for the supplement industry. The supplement industry makes its money off uneducated teenagers who couldn't pass an 11th grade chemistry class.

So spare me your comments. It's not about marketing. It is about SCIENCE, which you clearly do not understand.

Go back to pill popping so you feel good when you put on your tight shirt and flex in the mirror.

Oh am I? My degree is in biochemistry and i'm working on my PhD in nutritional science.

so yea, guess I don't understand science. why don't you educate me then

[Lil Freek]

^ if you put a crayon in your brain via your nose, you will get dumb, but live.

just a little FYI, eh

If aspartame caused any damage... i would be dead. I've probably consumed a good 3-4metric tons of the stuff.

My degree is in biochemistry and i'm working on my PhD in nutritional science.

Ha! I knew that was coming. Nothing like pulling something out of your ass. Where are you studying? What are you working on for a thesis? Where did you get your undergrad degree? What was your concentration? Why do you spend so much time on this message board? Shouldn't you be busy working on your thesis?

Give me a break.

I don't give 2 ****s about your degree. You've been brainwashed. There is no turning back now.

As for the dip**** who commented about taking aspartame, you won't notice it now. We are talking 20 years down the road. And you wonder why cancer is spreading like wild fire, despite the fact that there is MORE research being done, more prescription drugs being manufactured, more money than ever being used to fund prevention, etc.

Guess what folks? It isn't working. What we put in our mouths is the real cause of so many diseases. You refuse to believe it, but I'm SURE you've noticed more and more of your elderly relatives kicking the bucket because of cancer.

So go suck down a bottle of chemicals. I'll send flowers to your hospital bed in 20 years.

[Lil Freek]

you won't send flower, ass-puppet.
gah.. trolls are useless.

i can guarantee you i'll be alive.
You have bought into media fear. You're no better than CNN or any other propaganda machine.

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ha! I knew that was coming. Nothing like pulling something out of your ass. Where are you studying? What are you working on for a thesis? Where did you get your undergrad degree? What was your concentration? Why do you spend so much time on this message board? Shouldn't you be busy working on your thesis?

Give me a break.

I don't give 2 ****s about your degree. You've been brainwashed. There is no turning back now.

As for the dip**** who commented about taking aspartame, you won't notice it now. We are talking 20 years down the road. And you wonder why cancer is spreading like wild fire, despite the fact that there is MORE research being done, more prescription drugs being manufactured, more money than ever being used to fund prevention, etc.

Guess what folks? It isn't working. What we put in our mouths is the real cause of so many diseases. You refuse to believe it, but I'm SURE you've noticed more and more of your elderly relatives kicking the bucket because of cancer.

So go suck down a bottle of chemicals. I'll send flowers to your hospital bed in 20 years.

lol

i'm studying at the university of illinois, my phd i'm working on is in protein & amino acid metabolism. In fact here is a link to my profile on the university website. Guess i pulled that out of my ass too?

lists my BS on there as well

http://www.nutrsci.uiuc.edu/admissio..._trainees.html

[Lil Freek]

Hax0rz!!

i can guarantee you i'll be alive.

Not if you don't bring down your BMI.

As for the initial topic, read this report (from a Paediatrician and Professor of Paediatrics):

http://www.livingnow.com.au/handh/aspartame.pdf

If you believe all of this information to be "made up", you are smoking way too much green stuff.

It's time to pinch yourself in the ass and wake up.

[str8flexed]

guess what... a pediatrician is not a biochemist & MD's do not have to take one course in nutrition to graduate

[Lil Freek]

I can ask my buddy the orthepedic surgeon how many apples to eat a day... he'll most likely respond with "What's an Apple?"

As for me being alive. BMI is a useless/obsolete tool for someone my size. According to my BMI, I'm still obese, which i'm not. My bodyfat is decreasing... and due to the fact that my ancestors have all died after turning 80 (grandma at 84 is still alive, grandpa at 97 is still alive), i'll most likely outlive you, regardless of your age.

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Lil Freek

I can ask my buddy the orthepedic surgeon how many apples to eat a day... he'll most likely respond with "What's an Apple?"

As for me being alive. BMI is a useless/obsolete tool for someone my size. According to my BMI, I'm still obese, which i'm not. My bodyfat is decreasing... and due to the fact that my ancestors have all died after turning 80 (grandma at 84 is still alive, grandpa at 97 is still alive), i'll most likely outlive you, regardless of your age.

correct. it's been stated by health professionals many times over that BMI is not accurate or useful for people with above average muscle mass or pregant women

guess what... a pediatrician is not a biochemist & MD's do not have to take one course in nutrition to graduate

Sounds like you are too ignorant to read the article. Take 10 minutes. It will change your views.

And Lil Freak - Stop eating those twinkies. They aren't good for you.