Protein Factory Fails Label Claim test

1fast400 · 10-14-2002, 05:14 PM

******** does it again

I was sent a protein factory sample from Tony1 and Dio. Dio's has not been finshed yet.

Tony1 sent a complete sheet of what his sample had. According to Protein Factory per 100g serving it would contain:

Calories: 375.29
Fat: 1.00g
Total Carbs: 5.14g
Total Protein: 86.28g

The test done by AAC Labs via AOAC lab testing produced this result:

Calories: 312.00
Fat: 2.13g
Total Carbs 29.7g
Total Protein 63.6g

Now I'm going to catch a lot on this I'm sure. I'll have the lab results scanned onto my website within 24h and you can see for yourself.

On another note I had Inlarge II and Isomatrix tested:

Isomatrix had 3g more protein per serving, .4g less carbs and 1g of fat more than label claim. It tested very well

NlargeII had an semi-odd result. They had 75.8g of carbs instead of 86, but had 66.3g of protein in stead of 52.

Just thought I would let you guys know

Baby Huey · 10-14-2002, 05:18 PM

PF fails? Say it ain't so! If this is accurate, this is a real blow for those of us who like to buy protein on the cheap and customize blends. Yet again, the supplement consumer has been let down by a seemingly trustworthy supplier. The supplement business has got to be one of the sleaziest businesses around.

SirSavageX · 10-14-2002, 05:24 PM

Even though I've never used them, disappointing to say the least.

Good job, Mike. Keep it up. The consumer deserves to know.

Antonio · 10-14-2002, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
******** does it again

I was sent a protein factory sample from Tony1 and Dio. Dio's has not been finshed yet.

Tony1 sent a complete sheet of what his sample had. According to Protein Factory per 100g serving it would contain:

Calories: 375.29
Fat: 1.00g
Total Carbs: 5.14g
Total Protein: 86.28g

The test done by AAC Labs via AOAC lab testing produced this result:

Calories: 312.00
Fat: 2.13g
Total Carbs 29.7g
Total Protein 63.6g

Now I'm going to catch a lot on this I'm sure. I'll have the lab results scanned onto my website within 24h and you can see for yourself.

On another note I had Inlarge II and Isomatrix tested:

Isomatrix had 3g more protein per serving, .4g less carbs and 1g of fat more than label claim. It tested very well

NlargeII had an semi-odd result. They had 75.8g of carbs instead of 86, but had 66.3g of protein in stead of 52.

Just thought I would let you guys know

Wow, I'm shocked. All I can say is good job Mike. Thanks for telling us.

SMACKAVELI · 10-14-2002, 05:31 PM

Once again Mike pulls through! Thanks bro. BTW- NLARGE2 RULES!!!

Fudog1138 · 10-14-2002, 05:31 PM

Thanks for taking the time to look into it. Hope business is going well.

bigmark · 10-14-2002, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
******** does it again

I was sent a protein factory sample from Tony1 and Dio. Dio's has not been finshed yet.

Tony1 sent a complete sheet of what his sample had. According to Protein Factory per 100g serving it would contain:

Calories: 375.29
Fat: 1.00g
Total Carbs: 5.14g
Total Protein: 86.28g

The test done by AAC Labs via AOAC lab testing produced this result:

Calories: 312.00
Fat: 2.13g
Total Carbs 29.7g
Total Protein 63.6g

Now I'm going to catch a lot on this I'm sure. I'll have the lab results scanned onto my website within 24h and you can see for yourself.

On another note I had Inlarge II and Isomatrix tested:

Isomatrix had 3g more protein per serving, .4g less carbs and 1g of fat more than label claim. It tested very well

NlargeII had an semi-odd result. They had 75.8g of carbs instead of 86, but had 66.3g of protein in stead of 52.

Just thought I would let you guys know

Thanks for the heads up. However, to be certain that your sample was not a statistical anomaly, further samples should be examined. Statistics are meaningless unless they can be replicated. (Yes, I'm a statistician.)

Younggunz · 10-14-2002, 05:36 PM

Mike, I just got one of your emails about this sort of testin you are doing. I'm wondering who is paying for these tests? Why have you decided to conduct them? Do you have another thread to direct me to these questions that you have already answered?

By the way, just wanted to say thanks for the orders I've made and it is great that you are doing these tests!!!!

SupaNatural · 10-14-2002, 05:38 PM

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Thanks Mike. Good work and great customer advocacy.

joe78 · 10-14-2002, 05:40 PM

That's why your site is one of the best ********!

RHINO · 10-14-2002, 05:52 PM

********,

Do you know exactly what Tony1 ordered? Was it one of PF's standard blends or a custom mix? What flavor was used?

bpdaddy · 10-14-2002, 06:05 PM

what did you test? They a boat load of protein? I would like to see several lots tested.

1fast400 · 10-14-2002, 06:09 PM

My web guy has just been sent the lab results and I'm attempting to scan the profile that Tony1 sent me. My scanner isn't working worth a crap. According the spec sheet it was a blend of:

30% casein
50% CFM why isolate
10% egg
5% Hydro 520
5% Fructose

1fast400 · 10-14-2002, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Mike, I just got one of your emails about this sort of testin you are doing. I'm wondering who is paying for these tests? Why have you decided to conduct them? Do you have another thread to direct me to these questions that you have already answered?

I pay for the testing myself. As I get more turnover/sales I will do more expensive testing. I decided to do the testing a while back to see how some companies stacked up. I'm sure I'll be a favorite at the O now for sure.

SUPERMANSTANLEY · 10-14-2002, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
I pay for the testing myself. As I get more turnover/sales I will do more expensive testing. I decided to do the testing a while back to see how some companies stacked up. I'm sure I'll be a favorite at the O now for sure.

Looks like Optimum stood up to the test... and I think it's the best!!

Younggunz · 10-14-2002, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
I pay for the testing myself. As I get more turnover/sales I will do more expensive testing. I decided to do the testing a while back to see how some companies stacked up. I'm sure I'll be a favorite at the O now for sure.

This is truely great!!!

SteveDFW · 10-14-2002, 06:41 PM

Mike,

If you want to test some straight proteins and not a blend, I have Protein Factory's micellar casein and their Whey Isolate.

1fast400 · 10-14-2002, 06:50 PM

Yes this would be a good idea. Anyone who has ANY protein factory products, if you could send me at least 100g of each of your products along with a copy of your order (meaning exactly the breakdown you were supposed to get) then I'll get EVERY lot tested that is sent.

Please send to:

Mike McCandless
Unlimited Nutrition
158 Holly Hill Lane
Burlington, NC 27215

This will show how things test out over multiple batches.

jweave23 · 10-14-2002, 06:59 PM

Truly outstanding Mike, thanks again for being an objective seller and good businessman!!

Jay Scott · 10-14-2002, 07:12 PM

Thanks Mike once again, GEE SEEMS LIKE I SAY THAT TO MIKE EVERYTIME HE POSTS ANYTHING!!! or anytime I place an order on ******** . com!

I will say this however, I am soooo sad that this has to be true... Sutch a good Idea ************** had... so much money they could have made if just they were honest... all that down the drain, GEE-SUS!

1fast400 · 10-14-2002, 07:24 PM

Not down the drain, it could have just been 1 bad batch. Being a business owner I can't see how any would INTENTIONALLY underdose items. It could have been an employee mistake. We'll get some more samples and find out though.

SteveDFW · 10-14-2002, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
Yes this would be a good idea. Anyone who has ANY protein factory products, if you could send me at least 100g of each of your products along with a copy of your order (meaning exactly the breakdown you were supposed to get) then I'll get EVERY lot tested that is sent

Mike,

I already threw away my copy of the receipt.

:-(

Jay Scott · 10-14-2002, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
Not down the drain, it could have just been 1 bad batch. Being a business owner I can't see how any would INTENTIONALLY underdose items. It could have been an employee mistake. We'll get some more samples and find out though.

You are right Mike, ontop of this, ************** has been known for messing up alot on people's orders.... maybe it was just that, I remember a while back someone posted he ordered so many grams of protein and got creatine instead... and there are many people who do say their orders end up mixed up.. well, lets see...

Next batch please, lol
Jay

Alphonse · 10-14-2002, 08:01 PM

As a PF customer I have to say that I find this latest info to be quite disappointing...

But I am also one of Mike's customers and have to also say once again, Thanks Mike!

Regards,
Alphonse

Bobo · 10-14-2002, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alphonse
As a PF customer I have to say that I find this latest info to be quite disappointing...

But I am also one of Mike's customers and have to also say once again, Thanks Mike!

Regards,
Alphonse

As a PF customer, I'm extremely pissed off.

brooklyn mike · 10-14-2002, 09:21 PM

im preety pissed of considering i have ten pounds of post work out rpteon coming in the mail....

Younggunz · 10-14-2002, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brooklyn mike
im preety pissed of considering i have ten pounds of post work out rpteon coming in the mail....

Send a sample to Mike!

brooklyn mike · 10-14-2002, 09:27 PM

so is this like a definate thing ?...and if so where the hell am i gonna get my protein from now...

SkullKrusher · 10-14-2002, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ********
Not down the drain, it could have just been 1 bad batch. Being a business owner I can't see how any would INTENTIONALLY underdose items. It could have been an employee mistake. We'll get some more samples and find out though.

you are da man. keep up the great work!

Lonny · 10-14-2002, 09:50 PM

Wow!!

They really screwed up that batch!

Anyways, is anyone going to contact PF? Tony1 in particular?

I bet people won't be so fast to reccomend ************** to newbies anymore!

They are are going to have to offer some sort of rebutal to this.