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Old 09-23-2002, 02:25 PM   #1
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Take it slower

I think it is great that James is trying to help Matt out. However, I think that he is going to burn him out with that program. It has been some time since Matt has trained or dieted. I believe that 100g of carbs for anybody (even competitors) is too low to function. I believe that the number of calories that Matt consumed prior to beginning his training should be established. His new diet should be 500 calories a day less to start with and at least 300 g of protein a day. The number of calories James had him on is too low for an inactve female, let alone a 220ish pound active teenage boy!

We want people to begin a life of fitness and stay in it. Not burn out in 3 weeks. Take it easy on Matt. Afterall, a healthy lifestyle is a life long comittment.
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I think his knowledge on nutrition is lacking something to be desired. he's got this kid slugging protein shakes as meals and seems to think that vegetables do not contain any carbohydrates.

And I agree, I played rugby and only had practice 3 days aweek. That was more than enough to put me on my ass. Doing cardio, esspecially if he must insist on doing it in the morning after an overnigh fast is enough to just a bout kill someone. esspecially if they have been layed out for a year.
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yup, one rugby game is usually enough for me to be out of commission for a few days. I also made the mistake of doing cardio in the morning on an empty stomach and paid dearly in muscle loss, I didn't do my homework on that and it cost me. But yea, his knowledge of nutrition leaves quite a bit to be desired I agree.
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Hey guys how r we all

yes I realise what you guys are saying...

1 I said in the article that we will see how he feels after the first week if he is sluggish i will up the carbs. It was his idea too have carbs that low as there will be no rugby training those first 2 weeks

and it is for only 2 weeks

matt is very determined and he wont get burned out.

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well burn out is not only a mental, but a physical factor, I don't see how being determined is going to prevent this.

You have to realize that sports athletes and bodybuilders are NOT the same thing, his diet and training need to be altered if he excpets to perform at any kind of level. Putting him on a bodybuilders diet and training program will end up hurting him in the end.

I hope that you plan to take him off of all of those machines and start incorperateing olympic power lifts and plyometric drill to develop functional strenth and reaction time.

Because I can tell you that if you work with a program like that and just modify the intensity, hes is going to go out there and get crushed. And thats if he has the energy to step on the field.
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just about anything

I agree with everyone 100%. Matt has been out of the game for so long that he should see results with almost anything he does at first. He does not need to take it to extremes so early. A balanced diet incorporated with a solid wgt. training program with mostly free weights and a cardio program should suffice. Safe the extreme diets and programs for those trying to get down to 3% bodyfat. Cutting too soon will result in a loss of energy and muscle. Take it one step at a time. Someone's diet plan for training for the nationals is not going to work for someone who is out of shape. He'll burn out physically and mentally.
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Hey guys how r we all

yes I realise what you guys are saying...

1 I said in the article that we will see how he feels after the first week if he is sluggish i will up the carbs. It was his idea too have carbs that low as there will be no rugby training those first 2 weeks

and it is for only 2 weeks

matt is very determined and he wont get burned out.

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I can take critism well cause everybody will critisize no matter what.

I could critisize you but I dont feel the need to make myself feel better by doing so.

The diet matt will be on is for 2 weeks where he will not be training for rugby and will just be doing his own thing so it will be a good chance to drop so fat.

After the initial 2 week period and once he gets used to lifting again his workouts will be 50% power movements and 50% isolation movements for hypertrophy.

everyone does things different, remember that

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I don't think anyone was trying to give negetive critisisim and I can assure you that what I said was not an effortto make myself feel any better about myself.

I was giving suggestions as how to get the best result. Everyone may do things differently, but what you have your freind doing isn't just different, its not in his best interet.

with 2 weeks until a season, sport specific training and improvement on skills are his best interest. 2 weeks is hardly enough to for him to see any significant weight loss from body fat. The work load he wil get between practices and games will do that just fine.
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I agree

Nobody is trying to criticize you, we are just trying to save poor Matt. He is trying to get ready for rugby season, he is not in the last two weeks before the Mr. Olympia! On the training schedule and diet you have Matt on, he will be lucky if he is still alive let alone be ready for a rough rugby season! There is a big difference between diet and training for bodybuilding and diet and training for a particular sport. You are right Sadek, everybody has different ideas on training and diet. What works for one person might not work for another. You should take that into consideration and stop trying to put Matt on a program that would work for you! Stop being stubborn, realize that Matt is different than you, realize we are all making good points and are just trying to help, and adjust Matt's program for his sake!
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I could critisize you but I dont feel the need to make myself feel better by doing so.

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Accepting criticism comes as you age. By being unwilling to see other peoples' views and having tunnel vision, you will only hurt yourself both as a bodybuilder and a person. As I have gotten older I have learned to listen to people and to give their ideas a shot. That is how you discover what works for you both as a bodybuilder and a person. Otherwise you wind up being one dimensional.
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Hey Guyz,

I think its only fair to give James a break, I helped him design my program he gave me options to choose from, but guided me in the right direction, and so fair the gains i have made are unreal.

If i felt unhappy about my program I would have told him and we would of changed it

I feel healthier aswell, I know what it feels like to be burnt out, and i am no where near that stage

Its good that you are telling him how u feel about it, But fairs fair
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Yes, but are you trainig to be a bodybuilder or an athlete?
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If you wanna make program for me then do it

Otherwise Shut Up
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that's not nessecary.
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what's up?

Someone changed my previous quote. What I said was that I give James credit for coming up with a program for Matt. I could not do it, Matt let himself go to far and has gotten too far out of shape. Whoever changed my quote at least learn how to spell the word "necessary".
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Well I imagine that you are beginning your season now so heres an example of an "in-season" athletic program: Ifyou have practice three days a week, yo should be trining with weighs on your 2 week days off.

Heavy day 3 sets 3RM w/ 2-3 min rests

Power cleans
Push press
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Flat bar bell bench
Romanian Dead lifts

Abdominal training. 8-10RM repetitions w/ the swiss balls. You can be creative with these drill. try to do more than the traditional cruch and leg lifts.



Light day 3 sets 8-12RM, 1 - 1.5 min rests

Power clean - only 5 or 6 RM
Front squats
Incline BB bench
Deadlifts - no more than 6 RM
If you have access to a hammer jammer, some times called a Jack jammer, this would be good too.

then again abdominal training. select 6 exercises, 2 utilizing weight for 10 reps, then 2 sets utilizing the swiss balls, and 2 utilizing a partner and a med ball.

This program would be used for the first 5-6 weeks of your rugby season.

Then you would change a few varibles. Like swithcing to DBs for chest exercises. And doing Overhead DB traveling lunges instead of front squats.

Switch to "Sumo Style" Deadlifts and in stead of doing power cleans and push presses, on your heavy day to a power clean directly into a push press. and so on.

this keep these changes till the end of your rugby season.

*NOTE* i am assuming that agility, lateral movement, and plyometric type work is being done a prectices.
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Well Eric I have to give it to you for taking time to write a program, I am not starting a Rugby season.

Ive just finished one, and im going on a RUGBY TOUR to the UK in December, And thats the reason for me getthng fit.

I got injured, again with 2 games left, at the end of the rugby season.

After The tour I might think about bodybuilding, as you guyz have put alot of questions in my head I wanna find out
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Well, good luck. I'm sorry, IM not up to speed with the british ligo, whats the difference between a tour and a season?
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A season u play like 20
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Wink ...seprerated by a common language!!

Isn't it great that "we" Yank's, Brit's, Aussie's, etc all speak the same language differently???

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How is it going Matt?

What sort of progress have you made so far, if I'm reading the thread right you've been working on it for about a month.

I have been working on a similar project since August. I've dropped from 220lb to 195lb with a body fat lost from 36% to 26% not that bad I think. The werid thing is my trainer is fequently on me to eat more... When I was working on my own I was trying too hard to drop weight and I had severly lowered my metabolism that I was maintain at less than 1000cal. He wants me to eat 1800cal (50% cho, 35% pro, 15% fat)... by the time I get to 1600cal or so I feel so total stuffed I haven't felt like a cheat day so far (my cheat has been to eat lessand not feel so stuffed). But the weight is coming off. So I can't complain.

I wish you well, I know how hard the journey can be.

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Yeah thanks Man,

At first I was always hungry, but then my body adjusted to it
So know its no problem to me, cause im eating smaller but more frequent meals.

Wat do your think of the articles, Who's trainin you

Are you in any articles??

Anyway Good Luck to you to Man!!!
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Hi Matt

I can't bring myself to call you "Cheezy" (why on earth did you pick "cheezy" as a screen name...) It reminds me too much of some of the hurtful names I was called as a kid.

I've sort of become a pet project for the manager (also a trainer) at the World Gym here in Saint Augustine. He's giving me a cut rate on Nutrition consuling and some recommendations on work out plans. I made enough progress in the first month he asked me to do a blurb for a commercial to air on local cable. We're talking about if I continue to progress being "poster boy" for them. I'm not sure how I feel about that, but standing 5'5.5" that's the closest I'll ever get to a modeling gig.

This is your progress thread... If there's any interest in me, we should start a new thread.

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thanks cheese

if cheesey wanted to get stronger and more powerful for rugby i would have put him on a split for that...

he wanted to gain some muscle lose a heap of fat so i gave him a program for that

its workin

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