Daniel Gastelu - The Chub To Champion Video Transformation With Mitch Edmunds.

[webmaster]

This article presents Mitch's contest preparation diet, and some special exercises (with video) to help you continue getting lean this summer. The second part of this series will give you more details about his training plus additional video.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/gastelu17.htm

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[str8flexed]

Mitch looks great and I hope he has a successful career in the WNBF.

could have done without the constant supplement plugs, but you'll have that

I don't totally understand-- it says he weight trains 5 days a week, but the convetional wisdom I've always heard (from this site and others) is that anyone who isn't juicing shouldn't be doing more than 3 days a week of weight training. Since he's clearly taking a non-gear route, how is he working so many consecutive days with weights?

I currently work legs/abs on monday, chest/back on wednedsay, and arms/shoulders on friday. This is only three days a week of weights-- should/can I be doing more?

Anything that will help me reach my goals more effectively is of interest to me.

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't totally understand-- it says he weight trains 5 days a week, but the convetional wisdom I've always heard (from this site and others) is that anyone who isn't juicing shouldn't be doing more than 3 days a week of weight training. Since he's clearly taking a non-gear route, how is he working so many consecutive days with weights?

I currently work legs/abs on monday, chest/back on wednedsay, and arms/shoulders on friday. This is only three days a week of weights-- should/can I be doing more?

Anything that will help me reach my goals more effectively is of interest to me.

If anything natural trainers should train more often to prevent disuse atrophy. Trainers on androgens can get away with training less frequently as their levels of muscle protein synthesis will remain high due to increased hormone levels. In order to keep your levels of protein synthesis elevated as a natural trainer you need frequent bouts of stimulation. I am natural and going after my natural pro card and I train 5 days per week and every bodypart 2x per week!

[BringnIt]

Layne, I have always wondered, do you do the same routine twice a week for each body part, or is your workout varied in the reps/exercises chosen/sets, etc.?

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by BringnIt

Layne, I have always wondered, do you do the same routine twice a week for each body part, or is your workout varied in the reps/exercises chosen/sets, etc.?

it's varied. Typcially one day is focussed on increasing strength while the other day is a pure hypertrophy workout.

-Layne

[chickeneater]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't totally understand-- it says he weight trains 5 days a week, but the convetional wisdom I've always heard (from this site and others) is that anyone who isn't juicing shouldn't be doing more than 3 days a week of weight training. Since he's clearly taking a non-gear route, how is he working so many consecutive days with weights?

I currently work legs/abs on monday, chest/back on wednedsay, and arms/shoulders on friday. This is only three days a week of weights-- should/can I be doing more?

Anything that will help me reach my goals more effectively is of interest to me.

I think you're trying to say something smells fishy. I think I agree. The whole article and video series is "Mitch does this, Mitch does that" narrated by what appears to be a supplement hawker. When does Mitch speak? How did Mitch bulk up like that, forget the precontest.

Are prohormones legal in natural contests? You can get testosterone admidnistered by a doctor if you show low testoserone and older, if this is the case is this allowed in natural comps?

He's a father, grandfather, works 3 jobs and was able to commit 1.5-3hrs to bodybuilding and gain 30 lbs of muscle in one year?

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by chickeneater

I think you're trying to say something smells fishy. I think I agree. The whole article and video series is "Mitch does this, Mitch does that" narrated by what appears to be a supplement hawker. When does Mitch speak? How did Mitch bulk up like that, forget the precontest.

Are prohormones legal in natural contests? You can get testosterone admidnistered by a doctor if you show low testoserone and older, if this is the case is this allowed in natural comps?

He's a father, grandfather, works 3 jobs and was able to commit 1.5-3hrs to bodybuilding and gain 30 lbs of muscle in one year?

i don't think they allow this.

Training 3 days a week is not conventional wisdom, it is conventional non-science.

As a top training and nutrition expert I know what works best, and it is apparent that you people commenting are not getting your training, nutrition and supplements right for best results.

Look, I’m the trainer of fitness trainers, I know the behind scenes truth in bodybuilding and other sports. And the truth is, the training programs you read about in magazines are often not reality. Getting big muscles takes plenty of structured and progressive training. Once you have the muscle size you want, you may be able to maintain it with less training, but this depends on the individual. Also genetics plays a major role in developing championship size bodybuilding muscles.

Just like informing people about the best training and nutrition, informing people about the best supplements to take is a valuable lesson. Mitch used a super effective, multi-ingredient, multi-functional, high quality supplement, containing legal ingredients. This is good news that people should know about.

If you want serious gains it takes more than 3 days a week of resistance training. And if you are getting any gains with just 3 days a week, you can get better gains with more training per week, depending on your level of ability.

Take a look at the gains David Robson achieved within just 5 weeks. Over 6 pounds of lean body mass, and he is resistance training 6 days a week. When you know how to do you training, nutrition and supplements, right, phenomenal gains will occur.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson125.htm

David also lost a significant amount of body fat during this 5 week periods, just resistance training, no aerobics. He is getting ready for a contest in March 2006, and plans on continuing to build more muscle during his contest phase.

From my expert evaluation of your comments, and reading various testimonial articles by non-experts, I see many of you not doing it right. Many people are not resistance training correctly. Most are not doing contest preparation correctly, and losing way too much muscle from not doing it right.

Don’t criticize the hard work, dedication and success of a championship athlete like Mitch.

Learn how to do it right so you can get the results you want and become a champion like Mitch.

Give the scientific approach a try, it works.

Daniel Gastelu

[str8flexed]

Daniel, I agree with many of your training methods, but you aren't going to get people to listen to you being condescending.

-Layne

Thanks for your offering your comment Layne.

You are right, condescending is not a good approach, and this was unintentional.

Think of it this way to understand where I am coming from; when you hire a training or nutrition expert, they evaluate your programs, and provide more effective ones if the opportunity exists.

I'm taking the time writing these articles, etc, to help people understand how to get it right, using universal science based and evidence based approaches.

Perhaps you can offer an example using your own words how to get this point across.

What I find troubling is that many people are not getting optimum results because their training, nutrition and supplement programs are not right. They often get caught up following gimmicks, then eventually give up or think that the only answer is taking drugs. I think this is tragic, especially in light of the fact that the majority of people resistance training for sports, better bodies, fitness and health will never compete in a bodybuilding contest. All they want to see is some progressive gains in muscle mass and body fat reduction. And, the people who do want to compete in bodybuilding contests need to know what the common mistakes are, and how to approach this better.

The fact remains that there is a lot of non-science in this business, and too much misinformation. You seem to have an understanding of this.

Based on your experience commenting in these forums, what suggestions do you have to bring these problems up, approach fixing them, and to get the point across?


Thanks for your input.

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Daniel Gastelu

Thanks for your offering your comment Layne.

You are right, condescending is not a good approach, and this was unintentional.

Think of it this way to understand where I am coming from; when you hire a training or nutrition expert, they evaluate your programs, and provide more effective ones if the opportunity exists.

I'm taking the time writing these articles, etc, to help people understand how to get it right, using universal science based and evidence based approaches.

Perhaps you can offer an example using your own words how to get this point across.

What I find troubling is that many people are not getting optimum results because their training, nutrition and supplement programs are not right. They often get caught up following gimmicks, then eventually give up or think that the only answer is taking drugs. I think this is tragic, especially in light of the fact that the majority of people resistance training for sports, better bodies, fitness and health will never compete in a bodybuilding contest. All they want to see is some progressive gains in muscle mass and body fat reduction. And, the people who do want to compete in bodybuilding contests need to know what the common mistakes are, and how to approach this better.

The fact remains that there is a lot of non-science in this business, and too much misinformation. You seem to have an understanding of this.

Based on your experience commenting in these forums, what suggestions do you have to bring these problems up, approach fixing them, and to get the point across?


Thanks for your input.

people are going to be critical of you no matter who you are and what you do. I mean heck, look at someone like bill Belicheck, the coach of the New England Patriots... he's won 3 super bowls, but he has been subject to criticism this year. Does anyone criticising him know more about coaching football? Obviously not. I wouldn't let it get to you too much. You are knowledgable in your field... what do you care what some yahoo thinks.

-Layne

Thanks Layne.

I appreciate your insight and advice.

Originally Posted by Daniel Gastelu

Thanks for your offering your comment Layne.

You are right, condescending is not a good approach, and this was unintentional.

Think of it this way to understand where I am coming from; when you hire a training or nutrition expert, they evaluate your programs, and provide more effective ones if the opportunity exists.

I'm taking the time writing these articles, etc, to help people understand how to get it right, using universal science based and evidence based approaches.

Perhaps you can offer an example using your own words how to get this point across.

What I find troubling is that many people are not getting optimum results because their training, nutrition and supplement programs are not right. They often get caught up following gimmicks, then eventually give up or think that the only answer is taking drugs. I think this is tragic, especially in light of the fact that the majority of people resistance training for sports, better bodies, fitness and health will never compete in a bodybuilding contest. All they want to see is some progressive gains in muscle mass and body fat reduction. And, the people who do want to compete in bodybuilding contests need to know what the common mistakes are, and how to approach this better.

The fact remains that there is a lot of non-science in this business, and too much misinformation. You seem to have an understanding of this.

Based on your experience commenting in these forums, what suggestions do you have to bring these problems up, approach fixing them, and to get the point across?


Thanks for your input.

"i'm taking the time to write these articles to help people understand how to get it right...." is that really it or might it have a little something to do with you just trying to hawk your over-priced weight gainer?
seriously, this whole thing is quite transparent....why insult us this with your little scheme?

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

"i'm taking the time to write these articles to help people understand how to get it right...." is that really it or might it have a little something to do with you just trying to hawk your over-priced weight gainer?
seriously, this whole thing is quite transparent....why insult us this with your little scheme?

if you are going to get ticked at him for doing it, you should get ticked at the "animal" article series as well

Originally Posted by str8flexed

if you are going to get ticked at him for doing it, you should get ticked at the "animal" article series as well

i didn't see the "animal" series. i usually don't even reply to these things but i feel that i wasted 20 minutes listening to the "seminar" which didn't even contain a single piece of useful information in my opinion (my 14 year old brother knows more than this guy). i guess i should have known better when i saw the dude's picture. Oh well.

Isn't it more than a little strange that if this mitch dude was signing up for a transformation with this company that he didn't take a regular before shot? Instead the ad features what appears to be a really old picture that someone obviously dug up of this guy at his heaviest point. This whole thing triggers the "bull****" alarms big time if you ask me. My guess is that someone at the company met him when he was in shape and he told them that he was overweight years ago and they then decided to attribute his transformation to a product that wasn't even around when he lost the weight. Not to mention, this is a weight-loss before and after and the product they credit this to is a high calorie weight-gainer which would in no way promote those kind of results.

PS: no disrespect is meant towards mitch as his physique is definitely impressive (and i suspect he is just one of many victims in what looks to me to be a big fraud).

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Isn't it more than a little strange that if this mitch dude was signing up for a transformation with this company that he didn't take a regular before shot? Instead the ad features what appears to be a really old picture that someone obviously dug up of this guy at his heaviest point. This whole thing triggers the "bull****" alarms big time if you ask me. My guess is that someone at the company met him when he was in shape and he told them that he was overweight years ago and they then decided to attribute his transformation to a product that wasn't even around when he lost the weight. Not to mention, this is a weight-loss before and after and the product they credit this to is a high calorie weight-gainer which would in no way promote those kind of results.

PS: no disrespect is meant towards mitch as his physique is definitely impressive (and i suspect he is just one of many victims in what looks to me to be a big fraud).

most people aren't eager to take off their shirts when they are overweight or obese, thus the lack of "before" pictures. Many people start dieting with the idea that they won't be defending their transformations months or years down the road

Originally Posted by str8flexed

most people aren't eager to take off their shirts when they are overweight or obese, thus the lack of "before" pictures. Many people start dieting with the idea that they won't be defending their transformations months or years down the road

The dude is standing at the kitchen counter and wearing TWO shirts (its obviously a candid picture as opposed to a posed before shot). I seriously doubt that it was taken for the start of a transformation program. If you ask me, this kind of shady stuff gives the whole industry a bad name.

PS: and like i said mitch looks great now but its pretty obvious that there was some AAS involved (as opposed to a sugar based weight-gainer).

[str8flexed]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The dude is standing at the kitchen counter and wearing TWO shirts (its obviously a candid picture as opposed to a posed before shot). I seriously doubt that it was taken for the start of a transformation program. If you ask me, this kind of shady stuff gives the whole industry a bad name.

PS: and like i said mitch looks great now but its pretty obvious that there was some AAS involved (as opposed to a sugar based weight-gainer).

that is not true. Mitch competes in a natural bodybuilding organization (the same that I compete in) that has the strictest testing policies of all the natural bodybuilding organizations

Mr. Gastelu,
Someone mentioned that you have a PhD from a very prestigeous university. Which university was that? I like what I see.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Daniel Gastelu

As a top training and nutrition expert I know what works best,
Daniel Gastelu

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are such an expert, wouldn't you be showing off an awesome physique? From the looks of the webcast, you are kind of fat. I am a personal believer in practicing what you preach.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you are such an expert, wouldn't you be showing off an awesome physique? From the looks of the webcast, you are kind of fat. I am a personal believer in practicing what you preach.

I didn't see his picture but I'd definately be interested in where he got his PhD from. Dan please advise.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I didn't see his picture but I'd definately be interested in where he got his PhD from. Dan please advise.

Based on his lack of a response i think we all have our answer. No phd, no harvard, yale, or anything. Sounds like a full blown conman if you ask me.

[str8flexed]

maybe he just doesn't feel like responding to people who are going to ridicule him no matter what he says

Originally Posted by str8flexed

maybe he just doesn't feel like responding to people who are going to ridicule him no matter what he says

if he has good credentials that back up his claim of being "the top expert in the ENTIRE WORLD on bodybuilding and sports nutrition, etc", then i can't imagine anybody will be ridiculing him. but his lack of response is starting to suggest the answer to all of this.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The dude is standing at the kitchen counter and wearing TWO shirts (its obviously a candid picture as opposed to a posed before shot). I seriously doubt that it was taken for the start of a transformation program. If you ask me, this kind of shady stuff gives the whole industry a bad name.

PS: and like i said mitch looks great now but its pretty obvious that there was some AAS involved (as opposed to a sugar based weight-gainer).

Mitch is natural.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

if he has good credentials that back up his claim of being "the top expert in the ENTIRE WORLD on bodybuilding and sports nutrition, etc", then i can't imagine anybody will be ridiculing him. but his lack of response is starting to suggest the answer to all of this.

Who are you?

Can you read?

If so go here for background information: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/gastelu.htm

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Mitch is natural.

Yes, Mitch is natural.

I met with Mitch two weeks ago to map out a program to increase his lean body mass 15 to 20 pounds more, on an ASAP basis.

When you get the training, nutrition and supplements right, you can attain your ultimate potential. Obviously Mitch has good bodybuilding genetics. But, whatever your genetics are, you can make good progress naturally.

I'll keep you posted on his progress.